"Is Al Qaeda a Hoax?"

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Re: "Is Al Qaeda a Hoax?"

Postby antiaristo » Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:52 pm

Try googling "Operation Mass Appeal"<br>Scott Ritter knows all about this crap. <p></p><i></i>
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Operation Mass Appeal.

Postby slimmouse » Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:02 pm

<br> This is always dodgy, but we might also google Operation Rockingham, and here are the results.<br><br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.sundayherald.com/34491">www.sundayherald.com/34491</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br> Spooks, Cointel ops ? What a minefield. One things for sure. We, the public are fed so much crap.<br><br> Looking at the bigger picture however. Is this how we should run this world ?<br><br> I guess as long as we allow it , the deluded ( if its any comfort, make no mistake, deluded is what these people are ) will get away with it.<br><br> Perhaps the above shouldnt read deluded so much as plain decieved. In the same way that Robin Cook was.<br><br> IMO These people understand so little of what is really going on in this material plane, that it isnt even funny, despite being too funny ( If that makes any sense.)<br><br> Also IMO, much to the derision of a select few on this board, these are the people who have always run the show.<br><br> Im eagerly awaiting several responses. Not that I expect that any of these guys from whom I await responses are complicit. Those who truly understand what is going on are busy doing far more important things.<br><br> They leave the gatekeeping to others. They leave the gatekeeping to those who can readily castigate Icke and others as madmen, thru the precreated memes of "Anti semite", or those who can spend all their time searching for the fascist in the cupboard, and yet ignoring the Nazi in the living room ( Are you there DE ? )<br><br> Those who say Hoagland is "A shill". Those who ignore the obvious, such as what Antiaristo has been trying to tell you forever and a day.<br><br> For you people of truly "Rigorous intuition", might I suggest Robert Percy/ Mary Bennets - Dark Moon<br><br> Only my humble dipshit opinion of course.<br> <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 4/10/06 5:53 pm<br></i>
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Who controls the military?

Postby starroute » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:25 am

I'm reminded of something interesting I ran into on Google Groups earlier today.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/browse_thread/thread/1bc08ff69c2a8ef5/72d524ca445ed5f2?lnk=st&q=cheney+ghorbanifar&rnum=282#72d524ca445ed5f2">groups.google.com/group/a...ca445ed5f2</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The following appeared in the "Village Voice", Sept. 10, 1991 issue: <br><br>C I A O U T O F C O N T R O L <br><br>by Russ W. Baker<br><br>In the Post-Soviet Era, Congress Slumbers and the Intelligence Community Creates New Bogeymen to Vanquish <br><br>. . . IN FACT, THE PENTAGON'S ROLE in clandestine operations has been growing by leaps and bounds since Reagan and Bush first took their oaths. As the Soviet threat recedes, Grenada, Panama, and the gulf war conveniently demonstrate that there will always be an enemy. The Pentagon, currently far more popular than the CIA, is ready to play a more active role than its traditional once-a-generation "big war" gig. In postwar appearances before Congress, generals Powell and Schwarzkopf laid the groundwork by complaining about ineffectual CIA intelligence provided during the war.<br><br>Military intelligence, once under the supervision of the CIA, is now itself "totally out of control, like a herd of steer," says Marchetti. "Now, everybody has clandestine services, everybody has covert operations." Already, 80 per cent of the intelligence black budget is controlled by the Pentagon, and is dispensed to a raft of different organizations most Americans have never heard of. The largest, with a budget of $12 billion to $15 billion, is the Air Force's National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), which collects satellite data. (The government denies its very existence.) Others include The National Security Agency (NSA), which monitors international phone calls, and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), which analyzes military information.<br><br>Congress is now recommending that the military be authorized to conduct covert operations without any oversight whatsoever, so long as the actions immediately precede or take place during the execution of a formal, visible military operation. Critics, including CIA veterans of Indochina in the Association of National Security Alumni, fear this would encourage the president to stage fake provocative actions, a la the 1965 Tonkin Gulf "attack" that brought the United States into total, undeclared war in Indochina.<br><br>In fact, since 1980 there has been an explosion of covert military activity involving everything from hostage rescue to sabotage actions. These military operations have evolved into renegade actions that the Pentagon claims little knowledge of or control over, adding yet another dimension to the problem of accountability and control.<br><br>Some believe a battle royal is coming, as Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney, who served on the House Intelligence Committee before joining the Bush administration, tries to reorganize military intelligence. He reportedly wants each branch of the military to have its own intelligence structure, with all reporting to an enhanced DIA, which would rival the CIA. Cheney takes a great personal interest in military covert operations: the Special Operations Command is believed to report directly to him, rather than going through the Joint Chiefs according to military intelligence specialists.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Reccommend Democracy Now w/ Fiske from 4/07/06

Postby ewastud » Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:22 am

Journalist Robert Fiske was on Democracy Now last Friday evening and sarcastically disparaged the notion about al Zarqawi being alive. I highly recommend everyone going to the Democracy Now website to download or view the interview. It was very instructive. Fiske believes the stories about him are mostly myth and psy-op stuff. The real Zarqawi has been overshadowed by his legend. This supposedly devout muslim failed to send any flowers or condolencess when his mother died about a year ago. No one has ever seen him in recent years. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: zarqawi psyop

Postby AlicetheCurious » Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:20 am

BTW, FWIW, I think that Osama bin Laden and "al Qaeda" were groomed to be the boogeyman, but they had to be discarded when too many real threads were discovered between them and the ISA/CIA. Because although al Qaeda and OBL (aka "Tim Osman") were intelligence assets, they were too real and therefore left real evidence that could be traced back to their handlers. <br><br>So, they were phased out, and replaced by a completely imaginary bogeyman, using the name of an obscure, dead, small-town thug of limited intelligence. Even so, the US can't hide that ALL the information about "Al Zarqawi" is coming from only one, single, unique source: American intelligence. Seriously, I think that to believe in al Zarqawi, you have to really WANT to believe. Just another "faith-based" initiative... <p></p><i></i>
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Re: zarqawi psyop

Postby Gouda » Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:39 am

1991.<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>...Cheney takes a great personal interest in military covert operations: the Special Operations Command is believed to report directly to him, rather than going through the Joint Chiefs according to military intelligence specialists.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> Wonder why they titled the article "CIAOUTOFCONTROL"? <p></p><i></i>
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Al Qaeda

Postby zjurhgvc » Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:09 pm

I'll never get tired of claiming that the puppet-masters are the investment banking networks--they fund and leverage everything. 9-11 was born and bred on Wall Street and in the City of London by the intelligence/black ops networks of the global capitalists--for whom the CIA and the rest of the "IC" are nothing more than useful tools.<br><br>Quite obviously, outfits whose boards are inhabited by billionaires and who pay their lackeys (CEOs) up over $100 million; who literally take over countries; who have been doing this in full force since at least the early 1800s; etc.; etc.--are going to be concerned that their interests are well taken care of. I just acquired another of those curious little celebrations of the banker families: Joseph Wechsberg's "The Merchant Bankers" (1966) --"the fabulous financiers whose family decisions have shaped the fates of kings and nations". Great stuff. Basically tells you how these family-run banks have run the world as their personal fiefdoms, but says that's all right, because these people are wise and misunderstood capitalists, creating wealth.<br><br>What amazes me is how devilishly hard it is to find decent literature on the intelligence networks of the corporate world, particularly their history, even though we are always reading about "Morgan's agents" and "Rothschild's global network" and so forth. Meanwhile, we are privvy to some of the deepest secrets of military intelligence and the CIA. Wall Street GOOD, Winston; Washington BAD.<br><br>Anyway, this global Ur-network, to me, is a best fit with the deep power of the Wall Street-London nexus; it spins off useful bogeymen as the need arises. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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