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"Islamic Fascism" and History

Postby dude h homeslice ix » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:15 pm

Do these pics speak for themselves?<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1373/1099/400/HizbollahNazi3.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1373/1099/400/hezbollahnazi.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1373/1099/400/hezbollahnazis2.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Islamic Fascism" and History

Postby dude h homeslice ix » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:25 pm

call zionism a multi-stranded affair or a monolithic entity--israel just behaves like a cornered animal would, defending its ill-gotten patch of sand. who doesnt get tired of all the talk about israel? i do.<br><br>but this islamic fascism thing, now thats news to me. of course, ramping up my acquaintence with the work of dave emory over this last year has imparted some surface knowledge of how the nazis worked closely with muslims back in the day...but as for how that relates to the present time, well, that remains to be discerned. (speaking for myself). <br><br>what if? bush doesnt appear to be the 100% appreciator/brown noser of israel that some presidents have been...but clearly he is at war with what he recently has started to call "islamofascists." whats really going on here? there are a lot of strands that dont make sense.<br><br>nazis are in bushs past, hell in AMERICAs past, yet the same can be said of the "muslim enemy." <br><br>more later. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Islamic Fascism" and History

Postby dude h homeslice ix » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:41 pm

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Re: "Islamic Fascism" and History

Postby dude h homeslice ix » Mon Sep 18, 2006 4:43 pm

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Re: "Islamic Fascism" and History

Postby AlicetheCurious » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:26 am

Ah! Well! If they raise their arms in that way, that must mean that they're Nazis...<br><br>Of course. That means, of course, that those who are actually conducting genocide against the Palestinians, who are fomenting hatred against Muslims, who are using genocidal weapons against civilians are, see, the GOOD guys, because if the Hezbullah has been photographed using the straight armed salute, they must be Nazis.<br><br>So anyone who is against the Hizbullah, MUST be the good guys. Because it's not how many people you kill, or what kind of racist hate-mongering you promote, or whether or not you are actually committing genocide. Forget the cluster bombs, depleted uranium weapons, the phosphorous bombs used against thousands upon thousands of civilians. <br><br>Forget about torture, secret prisons, racist incitement and brutal military occupation: the true test of who you are and what you stand for, is what kind of salute you make.<br><br>As in, "the salute is everything".<br><br>Got that?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Islamic Fascism" and History

Postby Dreams End » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:20 am

Well, I assume they chose that salute for a reason. <br><br>Perhaps it has to do with the relation of al-Hussaini, the man appointed "Grand Mufti" of Jerusalem by the British. <br><br>Here's a picture of him. He's the one on the left. Don't know who that guy on the right is.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/mufti.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> To the Grand Mufti:<br><br> The National Socialist Movement of Greater Germany has, since its begining, inscribed upon its flag the fight against world Jewry. It has, therefore, followed with particular sympathy the struggle of the freedom-loving Arabians, especially in Palestine, against the Jewish interlopers. It is in the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against him that lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between National-Socialist-Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Moslems of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour Declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the certain final victory.<br><br> Signed: Reichsfuehrer-S.S. Heinrich Himmler<br>November 2, 1943<br><br>Source: Tne Arab Higher Committee The Documentary Record. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>More documents <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/nazis.html">here.</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: "Islamic Fascism" and History

Postby OnoI812 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:09 pm

<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com">www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br> <br>Read the timelines of TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and you will discover that:<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Before Amin Al Husseini, there was no Pan-Islamic Jihad against the West and the non-Muslims.<br>Before Amin Al Husseini, there was no hatred between the Jews and the Arabs.<br>Why did Osama Bin Ladin say in his speech on Al Jizira that this Jihad<br>has been lasting for 80 years?<br>Because 80 years ago, Amin Al Husseini, the man who officialized Islamic hate, declared Holy War on the West and the Jews.<br>Bin Ladin and many other terror chiefs are only believers in Amin Al Husseini, who have dedicated their life to his ideology.<br><br><br>As you will see in the timelines of TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH<br><br>Amin Al Husseini was a friend and close collaborator of Hitler and<br>Mussolini, who saw himself as the Muslim arm of the<br>world Nazi coalition. Husseini promised Hitler and Mussolini to turn Islam into the most formidable weapon against the West and the Jews. After the war he helped organize the creation of dictatorships all over the Muslim world, where many of his believers are now the leaders. Arafat, Saddam Hussein, Assad of Syria, and other Arab dictators were all schooled at Husseini's feet. Amin al Husseini was at different intervals the head of the Islamic World Congress, The Muslim Brotherhood, and the Arab League. As a leader of these organizations, until his death in the 70's, he had the time and possibility to spread his hate philosophy all over the Muslim world. Since Husseini's days, the whole Islamic world has been infected with armies of fascist violent groups.<br>Osama bin Laden and all other Muslim terror chiefs are ardent followers of Amin Al Husseini.<br><br>Read the timelines in our website TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and you will learn the simple history which lead to today's conflicts, so you can pass the truth to the generations to come. Read the weblinks at the end of each timeline of this website and do your own search for further sources. We are just opening up the real debate about truth.<br><br>JEWS<br>Read our timelines to know the origin of today's antisemitism.<br><br>As you will see, there is evidence that Amin Al Husseini was the one who<br>first proposed the FINAL SOLUTION to the Germans, in order to avoid mass migration of Jews to their homeland and prevent the creation of the State of Israel. Read how Husseini's soldiers killed Jews and escorted Jewish refugees to the death camps. Husseini lived in Berlin during WWII and from there he broadcasted hate propaganda against Jews to the Muslim countries. Before Amin Al Husseini, Jews and Muslims lived side by side peacefully for many centuries. Husseini's influence as President of the World Islamic Congress in 1962 led to the systematic expulsion of hundred of thousands of Jews from Islamic countries.<br>Husseini's huge influence is at the origin of the hatred and the violence in the mid-East. Read the timelines of TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and learn for yourself.<br><br>CHRISTIANS<br>In his lifetime, Amin Al Husseini organized and<br>participated in the GENOCIDES of Armenians, Christian Assyrians, Croats, Serbs, Bulgars and Gypsies first in the name of the Ottoman Empire, and later for Nazi Germany. Over 2 million Christian Sudanese have been killed by Islamic Fundamentalists who were inspired by Husseini's hateful ideology. Get informed and learn the facts for yourself from our timelines and weblinks or other sources.<br><br>HINDUS<br>The Islamo-Nazis inspired by Al Husseini are responsible for killing over 60 thousand Hindus in the last 2 decades in India alone, and for cultivating anti-Hindu hatred in the hearts of the Pakistanis, Muslim Kashmiris, and Afghans. The Hindus of Afghanistan, under Taliban rule, were forced to wear a special sign to be singled out as non-Muslims, a strong reminder of how Hitler imposed the yellow star on the Jews. In Bangladesh, over 3 million Hindus were murdered under the sword of Jihad, and by people poisoned by Husseini's hate philosophy. Read the timelines of TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and get informed on the history of the fascist Jihad against Hindus and humanity.<br><br>BUDDHISTS<br>Was it not just a few years ago that the Taliban of Afghanistan destroyed, without reason, the world's most ancient statues of Buddha?<br>As you will see in TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH, this would have been unthinkable in the Muslim world before Amin Al Husseini.<br><br><br>BAHAI<br>In Iran, persecussion of Bahai people under Islamic rule has been covered up by Iranian officials who practice torture and murder against the Bahai in the name of Husseini's distorted version of Islam: a weapon of oppression against humanity. Get the facts and demand Justice. TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH provides you with a true insight into the root of this new paranoid philosophy called Jihad.<br><br>MUSLIMS<br>Read TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and you will learn that the root of this evil called fundamentalism is not original Islam, it is plain fascism. The representant of this foreign ideology in the Arab world was Amin Al Husseini, who tried to marry Nazism with Islam. Read TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and study our links for evidence that Amin Al Husseini organized and participated in terror in Islamic countries, and had Muslims mercilessly massacred by his followers. You will learn how during the years that Husseini spent at Hitler's side, he mastered the science of mass manipulation and propaganda, which characterized the Third Reich, and subsequently applied it in Arab countries, after having commited genocides in the Balkans. You will also learn how, with utter disregard for Islamic sanctity, Husseini had the late King Abdallah of Jordan, a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad, assassinated in the moment of prayer. Why? Because King Abdallah was a proponent of peace with the Jews. Learn how Husseini's followers in the Muslim Brotherhood also assassinated Egyptian President Sadat, and participated in the first attack on the World Trade Center. TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH reveals how, because of groups linked with Husseini's fascist ideology, at least 2 hundred thousand Muslims have died in Algeria in the past decade, where Islamic fundamentalists slaughter their victims daily, thus desecrating Islam and the Kur'an. Our timlelines and weblinks show how Two million Sudanese lost their life to this tyranny in the name of Islam. One million, mostly Christians, have been massacred over the past forty years in East Timor and Indonesia. It is of utmost importance for Muslims to learn about and radically reject Husseini's version of Islam, which is really anti-Islamic and was actually borrowed from the German Nazis. TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH shows that Husseini hosted among the most notorious Nazis who survived World War II in Syria and had them organize terror and policing in Arab countries. Husseini's use of the Holy Book of Islam as a tool of hate was not new: Hitler and Mussolini had done the same using the Bible. Our website will make this clear to everyone : The suicide attackers do not carry out their shocking missions until they have been fed Husseini's poisonous interpretations of Islam. The last free voices of Islam are warning us that this Husseini/Wahhabi poison is being injected daily in mosques worldwide. The message to all of Husseini's followers must be simple and direct: If Islam before Husseini was good enough for generations of peaceful believers who could live side by side with other peoples, then it is still good enough for all Muslims today. Have the answer ready when your children ask you : " Why Islam?"<br>The dream of a brutal Islamic world take-over is not and never was original Islam. It originated in a sick and hateful mind dedicated to trick and manipulate millions of Muslims into being the unconscious carriers of hatred against humanity. His name : Amin Al Husseini. Read the timelines of TELL CHILDREN THE TRUTH and study our links so you can tell the story. The more people know about it, the sooner all will be free from the Husseini nightmare, and our children will have the chance to awaken to a better world.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/thumbnails/pic-39_gif.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>1970. Karachi, Pakistan. Husseini with Pakistani leader.<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/thumbnails/eulegy_jpg_jpg_jpg.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Yasser Arafat (far-right) at Amin Al Husseini's funeral (with Mufti of Lebanon).<br>1974<br><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/thumbnails/Nazi%20Salute%20in%20Palestine_jpg_jpg_jpg.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Palestinian soldiers under Yasser Arafat doing Nazi salute<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/thumbnails/6-Mein%20Kampf_jpg_jpg_jpg.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br>Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler. Distributed by Palestinian Authority- 2003<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Minutes of the meeting with Hitler and Husseini.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Source: Documents on German Foreign Policy 1918-1945, Series D, Vol XIII, London, 1964, pp.881 ff.<br><br><br><br>German Chancellor Adolf Hitler and Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini:<br>Zionism and the Arab Cause (November 28, 1941)<br><br>Haj Amin al-Husseini, the most influential leader of Palestinian Arabs, lived in Germany during the Second World War. He met Hitler, Ribbentrop and other Nazi leaders on various occasions and attempted to coordinate Nazi and Arab policies in the Middle East.<br><br>Record of the Conversation between the Fuhrer and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem on November 28, 1941, in the Presence of Reich Foreign Minister and Minister Grobba in Berlin.<br><br><br><br><br>The Grand Mufti began by thanking the Fuhrer for the great honor he had bestowed by receiving him. He wished to seize the opportunity to convey to the Fuhrer of the Greater German Reich, admired by the entire Arab world, his thanks of the sympathy which he had always shown for the Arab and especially the Palestinian cause, and to which he had given clear expression in his public speeches. The Arab countries were firmly convinced that Germany would win the war and that the Arab cause would then prosper. The Arabs were Germany's natural friends because they had the same enemies as had Germany, namely the English, the Jews, and the Communists. Therefore they were prepared to cooperate with Germany with all their hearts and stood ready to participate in the war, not only negatively by the commission of acts of sabotage and the instigation of revolutions, but also positively by the formation of an Arab Legion. The Arabs could be more useful to Germany as allies than might be apparent at first glance, both for geographical reasons and because of the suffering inflicted upon them by the English and the Jews. Furthermore, they had had close relations with all Moslem nations, of which they could make use in behalf of the common cause. The Arab Legion would be quite easy to raise. An appeal by the Mufti to the Arab countries and the prisoners of Arab, Algerian, Tunisian, and Moroccan nationality in Germany would produce a great number of volunteers eager to fight. Of Germany's victory the Arab world was firmly convinced, not only because the Reich possessed a large army, brave soldiers, and military leaders of genius, but also because the Almighty could never award the victory to an unjust cause.<br><br>In this struggle, the Arabs were striving for the independence and unity of Palestine, Syria, and Iraq. They had the fullest confidence in the Fuhrer and looked to his hand for the balm on their wounds, which had been inflicted upon them by the enemies of Germany.<br><br>The Mufti then mentioned the letter he had received from Germany, which stated that Germany was holding no Arab territories and understood and recognized the aspirations to independence and freedom of the Arabs, just as she supported the elimination of the Jewish national home.<br><br>A public declaration in this sense would be very useful for its propagandistic effect on the Arab peoples at this moment. It would rouse the Arabs from their momentary lethargy and give them new courage. It would also ease the Mufti's work of secretly organizing the Arabs against the moment when they could strike. At the same time, he could give the assurance that the Arabs would in strict discipline patiently wait for the right moment and only strike upon an order form Berlin.<br><br>With regard to the events in Iraq, the Mufti observed that the Arabs in that country certainly had by no means been incited by Germany to attack England, but solely had acted in reaction to a direct English assault upon their honor.<br><br>The Turks, he believed, would welcome the establishment of an Arab government in the neighboring territories because they would prefer weaker Arab to strong European governments in the neighboring countries and, being themselves a nations of 7 million, they had moreover nothing to fear from the 1,700,000 Arabs inhabiting Syria, Transjordan, Iraq, and Palestine.<br><br>France likewise would have no objections to the unification plan because she had conceded independence to Syria as early as 1936 and had given her approval to the unification of Iraq and Syria under King Faisal as early as 1933.<br><br>In these circumstances he was renewing his request that the Fuhrer make a public declaration so that the Arabs would not lose hope, which is so powerful a force in the life of nations. With such hope in their hearts the Arabs, as he had said, were willing to wait. They were not pressing for immediate realization for their aspirations; they could easily wait half a year or a whole year. But if they were not inspired with such a hope by a declaration of this sort, it could be expected that the English would be the gainers from it.<br><br>The Fuhrer replied that Germany's fundamental attitude on these questions, as the Mufti himself had already stated, was clear. Germany stood for uncompromising war against the Jews. That naturally included active opposition to the Jewish national home in Palestine, which was nothing other than a center, in the form of a state, for the exercise of destructive influence by Jewish interests. Germany was also aware that the assertion that the Jews were carrying out the functions of economic pioneers in Palestine was a lie. The work there was done only by the Arabs, not by the Jews. Germany was resolved, step by step, to ask one European nation after the other to solve its Jewish problem, and at the proper time to direct a similar appeal to non-European nations as well.<br>Germany was at the present time engaged in a life and death struggle with two citadels of Jewish power: Great Britain and Soviet Russia. Theoretically there was a difference between England's capitalism and Soviet Russia's communism; actually, however, the Jews in both countries were pursuing a common goal. This was the decisive struggle; on the political plane, it presented itself in the main as a conflict between Germany and England, but ideologically it was a battle between National Socialism and the Jews. It went without saying that Germany would furnish positive and practical aid to the Arabs involved in the same struggle, because platonic promises were useless in a war for survival or destruction in which the Jews were able to mobilize all of England's power for their ends.<br><br>The aid to the Arabs would have to be material aid. Of how little help sympathies alone were in such a battle had been demonstrated plainly by the operation in Iraq, where circumstances had not permitted the rendering of really effective, practical aid. In spite of all the sympathies, German aid had not been sufficient and Iraq was overcome by the power of Britain, that is, the guardian of the Jews.<br><br>The Mufti could not but be aware, however, that the outcome of the struggle going on at present would also decide the fate of the Arab world. The Fuhrer therefore had to think and speak coolly and deliberately, as a rational man and primarily as a soldier, as the leader of the German and allied armies. Everything of a nature to help in this titanic battle for the common cause, and thus also for the Arabs, would have to be done. Anything however, that might contribute to weakening the military situation must be put aside, no matter how unpopular this move might be.<br>Germany was now engaged in very severe battles to force the gateway to the northern Caucasus region. The difficulties were mainly with regard to maintaining the supply, which was most difficult as a result of the destruction of railroads and highways as well as the oncoming winter. If at such a moment, the Fuhrer were to raise the problem of Syria in a declaration, those elements in France which were under de Gaulle's influence would receive new strength. They would interpret the Fuhrer's declaration as an intention to break up France's colonial empire and appeal to their fellow countrymen that they should rather make common cause with the English to try to save what still could be saved. A German declaration regarding Syria would in France be understood to refer to the French colonies in general, and that would at the present time create new troubles in western Europe, which means that a portion of the German armed forces would be immobilized in the west and no longer be available for the campaign in the east.<br><br>The Fuhrer then made the following statement to the Mufti, enjoining him to lock it in the uttermost depths of his heart:<br><br>1. He (the Fuhrer) would carry on the battle to the total destruction of the Judeo-Communist empire in Europe.<br><br>2. At some moment which was impossible to set exactly today but which in any event was not distant, the German armies would in the course of this struggle reach the southern exit from Caucasia.<br><br>3. As soon as this had happened, the Fuhrer would on his own give the Arab world the assurance that its hour of liberation had arrived. Germany's objective would then be solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere under the protection of British power. In that hour the Mufti would be the most authoritative spokesman for the Arab world. It would then be his task to set off the Arab operations, which he had secretly prepared. When that time had come, Germany could also be indifferent to French reaction to such a declaration.<br><br>Once Germany had forced open the road to Iran and Iraq through Rostov; it would be also the beginning of the end of the British World Empire. He (the Fuhrer) hoped that the coming year would make it possible for Germany to thrust open the Caucasian gate to the Middle East. For the good of their common cause, it would be better if the Arab proclamation were put off for a few more months than if Germany were to create difficulties for herself without being able thereby to help the Arabs.<br>He (the Fuhrer) fully appreciated the eagerness of the Arabs for a public declaration of the sort requested by the Grand Mufti. But he would beg him to consider that he (the Fuhrer) himself was the Chief of State of the German Reich for five long years during which he was unable to make to his own homeland the announcement of its liberation. He had to wait with that until the announcement could be made on the basis of a situation brought about by the force of arms that the Anschluss had been carried out.<br><br>The moment that Germany's tank divisions and air squadrons had made their appearance south of the Caucasus, the public appeal requested by the Grand Mufti could go out to the Arab world.<br>The Grand Mufti replied that it was his view that everything would come to pass just as the Fuhrer had indicated. He was fully reassured and satisfied by the words which he had heard form the Chief of the German State. He asked, however, whether it would not be possible, secretly at least, to enter into an agreement with Germany of the kind he had just outlined for the Fuhrer.<br><br>The Fuhrer replied that he had just now given the Grand Mufti precisely that confidential declaration.<br>The Grand Mufti thanked him for it and stated in conclusion that he was taking his leave from the Fuhrer in full confidence and with reiterated thanks for the interest shown in the Arab cause.<br><br>SCHMIDT <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=onoi812>OnoI812</A> at: 9/19/06 10:24 am<br></i>
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The Dalai Lama was asked about Islam

Postby DBtv » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:25 pm

at an event I attended in Denver over the weekend.<br><br>The Dalai Lama stated that to condemn all Muslims for the actions of the fundamentalists is false and unfair. He then gave several personal stories about his interactions with Muslims throughout his life, and stated that they were some of the most kind, intelligent and compassionate people he had ever met.<br><br>Blanket demonization of Muslims is propagandization of the basest kind similar to blanket demonization of Christians based on the ravings of their craziest fundamentalists and the supposedly Christian national figurehead.<br><br>Until humanity rejects the elite's psy-op artificially pitting religions and races against each other, war and destruction is the only outcome possible.<br><br>The Dalai Lama explained that in the 21st century, the global interconnectedness of humanity now makes military solutions to world problems a self defeating activity. <br><br>I fully agree with the Dalai Lama. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: The Dalai Lama was asked about Islam

Postby Dreams End » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:36 pm

Does the Dalai Lama support the PLO and Hamas? Hezbollah?<br><br>That's what this thread is about. <br><br>But I wouldn't put all your faith in his holiness....he's played ball with the CIA before as well. <br><br>It's a complicated world. <p></p><i></i>
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Joan Peters as a source

Postby sockmonkey » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:46 pm

Those posting links that source "From Time Immemorial" by Joan Peters, 1984, may wish to do further research on this author.<br><br>Finklestein has written of her, I believe, and even Daniel Pipes had this to say about her magnum opus:<br><br><br>"Most early reviewers, including myself, focused on the substance of Miss Peters's central thesis; the later reviewers, in contrast, emphasized the faults--technical, historical, and literary--in Miss Peters's book. <br><br>I would not dispute the existence of those faults. From Time Immemorial quotes carelessly, uses statistics sloppily, and ignores inconvenient facts. Much of the book is irrelevant to Miss Peters's central thesis. The author's linguistic and scholarly abilities are open to question. Excessive use of quotation marks, eccentric footnotes, and a polemical, somewhat hysterical undertone mar the book. In short, From Time Immemorial stands out as an appallingly crafted book. "<br><br><br>Here is Chomsky on Peters:<br><br>"Well, as soon as I heard that the book was going to come out in England, I immediately sent copies of Finkelstein's work to a number of British scholars and journalists who are interested in the Middle East — and they were ready. As soon as the book appeared, it was just demolished, it was blown out of the water. Every major journal, the Times Literary Supplement, the London Review, the Observer, everybody had a review saying, this doesn't even reach the level of nonsense, of idiocy. ...<br><br> <br>Anyhow, by that point the American intellectual community realized that the Peters book was an embarrassment, and it sort of disappeared — nobody talks about it anymore"<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.serendipity.li/zionism/joan_peters.htm">www.serendipity.li/zionis...peters.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>Just saying.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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This thread is about broad brushing Islam as fascism.

Postby DBtv » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:51 pm

The Dalai Lama was talking about compassion to individuals overriding the mass psy-op of "clash of civilizations".<br><br>HH is the executive of the Government of Tibet in exile and is attempting to reverse the elite's totalitarian and murderous Chinese invasion of his country. I'm sure the elite's intelligence apparatus has forced him to deal with them.<br><br>The Dalai Lama advises compassion as the most important human motivation, that will reverse the elite's false nationalistic psy op.<br><br>Contrast the Dalai Lama's words against the current leader of the roman catholic church. Whose leadership do you think would more likely lead to world peace?<br><br>The plo, hezbulla etc are elite installed political organizations and have no real religious basis except to create fundamentalist radicalism (not unlike the republican party in the USA) and perpetuate the elite's war for profit scenarios which keep The People from realizing the true power elite enemies of peace and sustainable economic interconnections. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dbtv>DBtv</A> at: 9/19/06 10:54 am<br></i>
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If it salutes like a Nazi. . . .

Postby DBtv » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:00 pm

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Amen.

Postby slimmouse » Tue Sep 19, 2006 1:52 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The plo, hezbulla etc are elite installed political organizations and have no real religious basis except to create fundamentalist radicalism (not unlike the republican party in the USA) and perpetuate the elite's war for profit scenarios which keep The People from realizing the true power elite enemies of peace and sustainable economic interconnections.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br> <br> And I thought there was only me who saw it like this.<br><br> Amen. <br><br> One of these days people are going to start to appreciate the real truth of this. First step is to get this stupid organised religion card (a primary mechanism of control by the elite) dealt with IMHO. <p></p><i></i>
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Postby dude h homeslice ix » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:02 pm

there are no such thing as good guys.<br><br>im pretty much with you when it comes to israel. but im no antisemite--in fact i completely support the rights of palestinians to self determination, so how could i be an *anti*semite?*<br><br>i just think the spotlight needs to be turned onto the other bad guys for a while, im curious, arent you? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dudehhomesliceix@rigorousintuition>dude h homeslice ix</A> at: 9/19/06 12:04 pm<br></i>
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There are plenty of good guys.

Postby DBtv » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:30 pm

It's just that none of them are afforded power by the ruling elite. <p></p><i></i>
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