How much time do we have left?

[mingy]

it seems hard to redirect focus to injustice when katrina is here and now - injustice has been somehow put in a box of everlasting procrastination<br><br>but when you realise that in dealing with injustice you are dealing with 99% of all the problems in the world now and in the future, including katrina and all the katrinas in the future, and all the my lais, all the vietnams by other names, all the hiroshimas, all the secret police brutalities in all the countries, all the massacres, corruptions, tortures, abuses, corporations, assassinations, kidnappings, crimes, killing fields, starvation, diseases, undemocracies, unfreedoms, nuclear winters - etc, etc - then you can go ahead and focus on injustice - root of all evils - <br><br>when you realise you dont have to fail at solving one little problem at one time, when you realise you can succeed at solving almost all problems for all time, when you realise that a lifetime trying to destroy one leaf of the tree of problems may fail, and if it succeeds, another leaf will grow, because the tree is still well, and a million other leaves will still be there, untouched because you gave a life to one leaf, and, on the other hand, by taking an axe to the root of the tree, a million leaves will fall and none will ever grow to replace them, and any sprouts from the stump are quickly dealt with once you have mastered the thought of going to the root of all problems - when you realise and understand this, by study and thought, you will know where your energy must be for efficiency and success <p></p><i></i>

[marykmusic]

Inanna said: <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I wish I were just a republican who was asleep<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>To paraphrase, "I should have taken the blue pill!"<br><br>If we don't feel safe where we are (and anyone near the ocean and especially below sea-level like New Orleans), we can move. There are options.<br><br>We are responsible for our own space and mental state of being. You can't argue with people like your mom, Inanna... let her figure things out for herself. If she wants to. It's also, like you mentioned with your brother, baby-step time for many folks. Little improvements are better than none.<br><br>Plus, you can't "fix" everything at once. But each time you make a move toward feeling safer, cutting down on your debts, increasing your knowledge, learning to do something that you couldn't do before, you're self-empowering. The more of that you do, the better you'll feel. --MaryK <p></p><i></i>

[Inanna]

Please list some concrete action steps then. <br><br>I am sorry, but right now I am less concerned with pay inequities (considering I don't have a job) than staying alive.<br><br>I just got off another board wherein I had to deal with a RWer who tells me I am in denial of the "facts." IOW, there is nothing wrong with the way things are. In the face of such gigantic delusion, I am more concerned with just getting people to even admit these guys, the ones who may be our demise, are evil. <p></p><i></i>

[Inanna]

Are you psychic? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I don't recall mentioning either my mother or brother, but you are correct. (I actually come from a whole family of 'em)<br><br>You are right though. I'll heed your advice. <p></p><i></i>

[Martha]

Mary K said - <br>We are responsible for our own space and mental state of being. You can't argue with people like your mom, Inanna... let her figure things out for herself. If she wants to. It's also, like you mentioned with your brother, baby-step time for many folks. Little improvements are better than none.<br>----<br><br>I think you may have Inanna and me confused. I am not Inanna, only replying to her.<br><br>Just wanted to point that out. No offense intended. <p></p><i></i>

[segovius]

I disagree that there is 'nowhere to go'. Seven years ago my family and I left the UK because we could see totalitarianism in the post, it still hasn't arrived but we're a year or so away imo - or put another way: one more 'terrorist' attack away.<br><br>This applies to the US and UK and lackeys like Australia and Italy.<br><br>Otherwise there is a groundswell of opinion against Bush/Blair - and this implies knowledge of their agenda - throughout 'old Europe'. Germany you can talk at random about 911 being an inside job and people will agree - ok, they are drifting to the right with Merkel but there WILL be resistance. France, very racist and Islamophobic but still will never go on board with another Bush/Blair military excursion.<br><br>Spain (where I live) is the best place imo - though you could also choose any Scandinavian country if you can handle the weather - here during the Iraq war we had a million people on the streets and EVERY night here in Barcelona cars stopped in the streets for 20 minutes and hooted their horns at 10pm, people came onto their balconies and smashed pots and pans - EVERY NIGHT of the war. The whole city was a riot of noise for 20 minutes every night. Everything stopped.<br><br>And then we got bombed at Madrid - and what happened? The next day we voted out the right-wing bastards who were responsible by dragging us all into Bush/Blair's war.<br><br>Now we have a left-wing government there is NO chance we are going along with the next installment of madness. Zapatero will just tell the US and UK to f*ck off, he's already done it once.<br><br>I seriously recommend moving to Spain - particularly Barcelona. Life is good, living is cheap and we know what really matters in life - and it ain't selling your soul to the company so they can shaft you three weeks before retirement.<br><br>There are many Americans moving here now - in fact 70% of my friends are now from the US (all leaving for the same reasons voiced in this thread) and there is something of an ex-pat community starting up.<br><br>Seriously, if anyone really wants to relocate and is considering Spain we will all help with any advice, tips, language help, places to crash or whatever.<br><br>I say just choose somewhere and do it. If the worst is on the way then it's already too late. If it's not and we're exaggerating and being paranoid then life will be better and more chilled for a few years anyway - it's not like it won't be fun and life is too short anyway.....<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Connut]

So you are afraid and angry? Fear leads to anger leads to action - so what action to take? Make the actions positive. If you aren't in a place to help Katrina victims, help the homeless on your own streets, not with money but with food and water. Don't give money to the Red Cross or other charities/non-profits. I've worked for a few and it's another way to take your $s a put them in the pockets of the guys at the top (they make big salaries, live in big houses, mix with big wigs.) Live simply and spend as little money as possible, the only way to quit fuelling the corporations. Create beauty around you no matter how small your space, make it lovely to/for you (not selfishness but intelligent self-interest). Read books (from the library of course) written by people who inspire you. Meditate more, pray for the earth and its people more. As we think so we become. <br><br>Take a look at educateyourself.com and find a positive/subversive way to create positive power. Make cloud busters, tower busters, positive orgone energy generators. I'm a sculptor and I use orgonite in the base of my creations and channel the energy out of the sculpture itself, so that people are attracted to them and as a result end up with a little positive energy generator in their home, brightening up their environment.<br><br>Find people to laugh with, tell jokes with, cry with when you're sad. Help others. Bloom where you are planted. There is no other place but here, so make it gorgeous for yourself and others. BE a flowergarden. A bad mood is like a cold, contagious. SO IS A GOOD MOOD! So get out there and infect as many people as you can. It may not be your job to wake others up, but to simply become more and more awake yourself. There is a community of awakened folk and they are here, especially on Jeff's site. <br><br>Love, laughter, compassion, action - go for it dear child! Your mission is to spread Light by generating it. And thank George W. and his Daddy, it's by the presence of their darkness that we know the extent of the Light we need to generate! Love, peace and joy, Connut. <p></p><i></i>

[RollickHooper]

It was a kind of post-apocalyptic scene, no motor traffic in the streets, no electricity, some sections of the city in rubble; but it was winter and it was snowing. There were habitable houses where people with children congregated, but what few people were left had essentially reverted to a hunter/gatherer lifestyle: if you wanted to eat, you had to go look for food.<br>But there was food, if you looked for it, and we had tents and sleeping bags and warm clothing. There was Community if you wanted it, or you could travel alone if you preferred.<br>And running through the streets of the city, there were wolves, real wolves, and it was good. <p></p><i></i>

[Inanna]

Your post gives me some hope. I lived in Spain a very long time ago. When I returned to the US (I'd been studying over there) I had planned to go back there and teach ESL. I had my open ticket paid for and was set to go -- then I met a guy! (of all things) and that nixed my plans.<br><br>What living in Spain did for me was to make me realize how warped American culture is, and I've never been quite the same. <br><br>At this point, I just have to get the energy to even clean my house. When things like this happen, I just retreat ever more than my usual self and become a virtual recluse. 911 was bad, but I still had my innocence and bought the official story. It never would have occurred to me to question things. In fact, a few years back someone told me it was an inside job and I just looked at the person like they were crazy and made a "yeah, riiiiight" comment. Of course, now I know the truth. And if anyone would doubt that are our government is capable of either LIHOP or MIHOP, one only needs to look at the reaction to NOLA to realize they don't care if Americans die. It's right there -- in your face, and only a fool or someone deeply entrenched in denial can fail to see it.<br><br>Gracias, y que te vaya bien alla. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>(ok, I may be a little rusty)<br><br>Inanna <p></p><i></i>

[Inanna]

You didn't happen to read a thread on a polar shift, did ya? Or did you read that thread from Victor at GLP?<br><br>Because according to him (if he is legit and for real), he gave a warning to everyone to be prepared with lots of warm clothing, heating oil, etc. in the next disaster. He also claims to work for FEMA and that they were briefed on this, and that he came across a shipment of parkas, etc.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Inanna]

I just lost the post I typed, but I wanted to say thanks and some other stuff. In lieu I just lost it all, thanks. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[RollickHooper]

No. No I didn't, it was just--there was snow, and we were glad. It was a really long, cohesive dream, which is unusual for me, I could tell more about it but I'm guessing it's more a reflection of what's already here in my head, and not something I've recently read-- <p></p><i></i>

[proldic]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>evil</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> dream <p></p><i></i>

[RollickHooper]

Two wolves got into a fight, and a young man tried to get them to stop fighting, and one of the wolves bit him, hard, on his left thigh. The young woman with him said, "What's the pattern?" [?] and I said, "If you step into the middle of a wolf fight, you're going to get bitten." <p></p><i></i>

[ZeroHaven]

My initial searching revealed New Zealand as fairly safe for the next few years. Not that I recommend it, but it's there.<br><br>Been off here for about a week doing stuff, like getting a citizenship for the country I moved to after the last election. Yes, sold the house, the car, the furniture, and left.<br><br>For those of you that think you simply CAN't pick up an move, but want to... let me tell you something. Unless you own nothing and are using a free public computer to read this, It's really that easy. Having children makes it more complicated, but not more difficult.<br>Picking your destination is the most work. Once you figure that out, the rest is paperwork. Get detached from your "stuff"; sell it. There's your travel money. If you pick a foreign country and want to get processed quickly, ask for political asylum, or at least refugee status.<br>Considering what the outside word is seeing right now, fear of persecution for political views is very well understood as a valid reason for leaving the states.<br><br>Good luck. <p></p><i></i>