Today in DC: Commandos in the Streets?

by **dbeach** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:33 pm

'I wouldn't be cheering for a military takeover, even if it's ostensibly or even actually "anti-Bush". What it will lead to is without doubt the end of the American republic. Things will get worse, not better. Webster Tarpley argues that 9/11 was actually an attempt at a military coup, against Bush, which largely succeeded - Bush has been weak, almost a puppet since then. I think the Able Danger story may support that reading' I NEVER said I am cheering for a military coup. I disagree with Tarpley on that and have much respect for Tarpley. Poppy O and jr are part of the secret govt. the first coup was 11/22/63 by Nazis/commies/royalty..you name it ...and EVERY act since has been a cover-up.. The USA is an occupied nation. You tell me how to get rid of these TRAITORS and not include the US Military and the various govt intells.. SOMEBODY is gonna have to act or the Republic that most of us LOVE is finished...More pressure from the Truth seekers would be big help... I am open to any ideas

by **Dreams End** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:34 pm

How, exactly, was Bush WEAKENED after 9/11...? Sure not the way I see it. I'd be careful with the Larouche writers. They always have good info but always have a little extra in there that doesn't seem to check out. I can't always tell what the Larouchian agenda is, but I don't think anything comes out of their organization that doesn't support that agenda.

by **DrDebugDU** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:54 pm

But I agree that a military takeover or a complete takeover of the military industrial complex is by far the worst thing which can happen. The president indeed is not important. Cheney, Scooter, Rumsfeld and many others outrank Junior and in the military, corporations and the silent, invisible mega stockholders have tremendous power. BTW Anti wrote a post somewhere that the UK/EU intelligence played their part as well in 9/11 (it was about that foreign exchange student organization, but I can't recall the name and the search on this forum sucks), the problems didn't start until the BFEE decided to add Iraq which unlike Afghanistan wasn't part of the original plan. There is a danger though that things can escalate, because Bush is on a political free fall and that makes it volatile. So what are they going to do? Will there be another unifying experience like 9/11? Can they get away with that nowadays? Or will Bush be sacrifised like they did with Nixon?

by **Inanna** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:21 pm

But DrDebug, I have to ask you...do you honestly think poppy would let them sacrifice his son? I don't. Any other doors to pick besides another 911 or that?

by **DrDebugDU** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:32 pm

I don't know what senior thinks. It looks like Bush is the person who can be replaced without making much difference overall, so it's the softest option for change. If they let Bush take the fall it means that the cabal can just continue without any interruption and most of the people will feel relieved and actually think that there has been a change. Poppy is a strategist. He had no problem trying to get rid off Ronald Reagan or Al Haig, so does he really think that different about his son who has been a massive failure? As far as the alternatives. I hope you can think of some other than a 'terrorist' attack, but I can't at the moment...

by **Qutb** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:29 pm

"You tell me how to get rid of these TRAITORS and not include the US Military and the various govt intells..." That is a good question, dbeach. And I don't know. A "popular uprising", non-violent of course, is the best idea I can come up with. If people weren't hypnotized by their TV screens, it would have aleady started. And in a way it has, already. 100,000 are expected to Washington Saturday. The momentum that has been created by the Sheehan phenomenon is the best hope we have. And spreading the word. Information warfare. DE - Post-9/11, Bush does what he's told to do. Invading Iraq wasn't Bush's idea. We know that Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz started arguing for an invasion of Iraq on 9/11 2001. I'm not saying Bush didn't know or didn't want to invade Iraq, but I don't think he's the one who's primarily calling the shots. Richard Clarke claims Bush asked him to find evidence of Iraqi involvement on Septemeber 12. But can we trust Clarke? Tarpley's argument is that the phone call to the Secret Service about Air Force One being a target did in fact occur and that the caller knew nuclear launch codes, which would explain Bush's strange journey to Barksdale and Offut. And if Tarpley is wrong about that (his sources are Debka and Réseau Voltaire, and, he claims, Russian intelligence), it would indicate that Bush was kept away from Washington on purpose. Unlike Cheney and Rumsfeld, those two veterans of the Continuity of Government programme. The message would have been, "do as we tell you or we might launch ICBMs at Russia". Hopsicker claims that there was an assassination attempt on Bush the morning of 9/11. To my knowledge, Tarpley hasn't been a Larouchie for a decade. But I agree that an affiliation with LaRouche is grounds for suspicion. As for Poppy, I don't think he's as powerful as people tend to think. He's more of a well-paid servant than a master. Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **Dreams End** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:48 pm

I still see Tarpley associated with larouche...just do a google on Tarpley and Larouche...first thing I found was him interviewing some Larouche Youth movement members. Anyway, that's a side issue. I didn't mean to imply that I thought Bush was ACTUALLY in charge of anything. Never has been in my view.

by **dbeach** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:51 pm

Qutb Do you have quote when Tarpley lays out his bush 9/11 scenario?? Poppy o and jr are related to the windsors and jr is related on both sides ..BTW kerry is 9th cousin of bush. the american/euro royalty and the other billionaires are behind all these crimes..and the vatican assassins..IMHO Popppy o is the american viceroy AND HAS shared interest in controlling the commoners by ANY means WITH QUENNIE. The US Military has its hands in many pies..HOW corrupt have they become? Kay Griggs says its huge corruption... I say there is plenty ways that the Military can help our side ..the side of Truth That oath says to protect against ALL enemies both foreign and domestic..I once took that oath..

by **Qutb** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:06 pm

"Do you have quote when Tarpley lays out his bush 9/11 scenario??" Unfortunately I don't, I've heard him lay it out in several audio interviews, never seen a text version. Qutb means "axis," "pole," "the center," which contains the periphery or is present in it. The qutb is a spiritual being, or function, which can reside in a human being or several human beings or a moment. It is the elusive mystery of how the divine gets delegated into the manifest world and obviously cannot be defined.

by **Inanna** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:48 pm

The major difference in what you mention between getting rid of Reagan or Haig is that we're talking about his son here. His flesh and blood. I've seen poppy interviewed and he doesn't take kindly to criticism of jr. He gets all emotional and protective. If poppy has the country's interest at heart, or even if all this stuff about Bush relapsing is true, maybe he'd see it differently. I dunno. Things sure are getting interesting -- and very scary.

by **DrDebugDU** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:56 pm

I know Poppy only cares about his own interests. The first priority is Rita right now. The wind of change and it's blowing right now. Let's see how that gets handled. If they screw that up then it will become strange, because what will happen if Texas becomes anti-Bush... and his majority in Texas isn't that great anymore. And Texans are a hot blooded crowd... <img src="http://www.surveyusa.com/chartfx62/temp/CFT0922_0752012F0AD.png"/> On the other hand, it has always amazed me that the Bush administration managed to last this long...

by **Watchful Citizen** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 9:15 pm

<a href="http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=7696&page=2&type=">www.kpfa.org/archives/ind...ge=2&type=</a> (This is part 2 from Gunsandbutter.net , the show at KPFA.org which is Pacifica.) Here's part 1. <a href="http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=7463&page=2&type=">www.kpfa.org/archives/ind...ge=2&type=</a> His work with Anton Chaitkin on The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush has him in my permanent APPROVED department. His work on explaining false-flag ops with patsies in Synthetic Terror is excellent. LaRouche goes in to old old history and too much theory but is exactly right about secret government, secret police, and the economics of war. Exactly right. And that gives him a pass from me, too.

by **dbeach** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:09 pm

<a href="http://www.tarpley.net/bush6.htm">www.tarpley.net/bush6.htm</a> Poppy o ditched his plane..Tarley/Chaitkin I will addd that one of my Vet buddies says the USN officers on 2 carriers in the area later said he deliberately ditched the plane to avoid combat..killed 2 of his crew.. prescott bush wore medals he NEVER earned in WW I and jr smirk wore an air medal he NEVER earned BTW Where is smirking imposters Military Records.??.I call that FRAUD!! He NEVER flew a solo flight..or it would be logged in the first sargeants daily reports which is usually in triplicate and forwarded to brigade . Military keeps many records in different places..

by **Sweejak** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:24 pm

<a href="http://www.totse.com/en/conspiracy/the_new_world_order/ovk2000.html">www.totse.com/en/conspira...k2000.html</a>

by **dbeach** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:29 pm

THANX I forgot about operation vampire killer. We need the various Police agencies and Military to perform their civic duty and arrest the bush criminals for multitudes of crimes... Its gonna be a rip roaring next 5-10 yrs..

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This is an audio link to Tarpley on 9/11 coup fears.

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