BREAKING: SAS caught red-handed in Iraq false flag terror

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Postby anonymoose » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:50 am

From the Guardian:<br><br>In a day of dramatic incidents in the heart of the British-controlled area of Iraq, the two undercover soldiers - almost certainly special forces - were held by Iraqi security forces after clashes that reportedly left two people dead and threatened to escalate into a diplomatic incident between London and Baghdad.<br><br>The soldiers, who were said to have been wearing Arab headdress, were accused of firing at Iraqi police when stopped at a road block.<br><br>In another incident an angry crowd attacked a Warrior armoured personnel carrier with petrol bombs. A British soldier was forced to flee from his burning vehicle.<br><br>Muhammad al-Abadi, an official in the Basra governorate, told journalists the two undercover soldiers had looked suspicious to police. "A policeman approached them and then one of these guys fired at him. Then the police managed to capture them."<br><br>Senior British officials said the Iraqis who attacked the Warrior armoured vehicle had prepared their petrol bomb attack before the incident involving the two undercover soldiers. The origins of the attack on the Warrior, they say, lay in events the previous day when about 200 members of the al-Mahdi Army, a militia headed by the radical Shia cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, made a show of force in Basra, blocking roads in the city and demanding the release of their local commanders.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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more via juan cole

Postby anonymouse » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:29 am

www.juancole.com<br><br>Gilbert Achcar writes:<br><br>"The office of Muqtada al-Sadr published tonight (Sept 19) the following press release that I have translated from Arabic FYI. It is -- of course, one might say -- in full contradiction with the official version of the British Ministry of Defence.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Gilbert"<br><br><br><br>"Two soldiers from the British occupation forces have opened fire on passers-by in the vicinity of a religious center where the people of Bassorah use to go, after which police patrols have chased a white car and arrested two persons riding it. It was found that they are British, and British occupation forces intervened to try to set them free. The people of Basra demonstrated to prevent this from occurring, and occupation forces reacted by opening fire on the demonstrators killing and wounding many of them. In retaliation the inhabitants burned two British tanks. The two Britons that were arrested had in their possession explosives and remote-control devices, as well as light and medium weapons and other accessories.<br><br>Late this night, British forces raided the police headquarters of the Basra province, set free the two Britons as well as close to 150 terrorists, and burned the police vehicles." <p></p><i></i>
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Wow. Just like the Graham Green book/movie

Postby maggrwaggr » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:39 am

what was the name of that, "The Quiet American"?<br><br>Exactly the same damn thing. Graham Greene was an insider whose books reflect his reality very closely from what I hear. <p></p><i></i>
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They were delivering pizza to the local sheikh

Postby antiaristo » Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:00 am

Bogeyman Blair has the right ingredients for winning rhyme <br><br>Lucy Ward, social affairs correspondent<br>Tuesday September 20, 2005<br>The Guardian <br><br>Tony Blair: a modern-day bogeyman? <br> <br>The tail-slicing farmer's wife and Muffet-scaring spider have been joined in the panoply of brutal nursery rhyme figures by a new bogeyman - Tony Blair.<br>The prime minister is the star - or more accurately villain - of the winning entry of a competition to create new nursery rhymes for the millennium.<br><br>The rhyme, which could make less politically-minded parents long for the simple innocence of Mary and her little lamb, is an earnest ditty intended to educate youngsters on the government's decision to take Britain to war in Iraq.<br><br>"Baker Tony's Pizza," victorious in the nationwide Time for a New Rhyme contest run by the children's digital television channel Nick Jr, portrays Mr Blair as a baker creating deceptively-attractive pizzas of dye and sawdust that "made all the children cry".<br><br>The judges of the competition, who included the poet Michael Rosen and the television presenter Lorraine Kelly, thought that the rhyme's "political undertones" reflected the contemporary social criticism of many much older verses familiar from the cradle or the playground.<br><br>Its author, Angela Martin, 57, said her inspiration had come from a "desire to educate our children on the politics of the Iraq war in a light-hearted fashion".<br><br>Whether or not the rhyme is adopted by parents crooning their babies to sleep or by skipping-rope jumpers in the playground remains to be seen.<br><br>However, alternative themes behind other entries to the competition were no less serious: topics included the Pope's death, the pressures of working parents, Jamie Oliver's school dinners campaign (the subject of 16% of entries), the September 11 terrorist attacks and the Boxing Day tsunami.<br><br>Second prize in the contest was taken by a rhyme by Miriam Collins, 27, called Computer Virus, reading succinctly: "My computer caught a virus,/ So I tucked it up in bed/ and I gave it lots of medicine/ but now my PC's dead!"<br><br>The second runner-up, by Jayne Fletcher Tomlinson, 48, is an unchallenging verse titled Bus, Train, Bike and Car which only highlights the powerful plague-inspired grittiness of Ring a Ring o'Roses.<br><br>The competition's organisers hope the winners will follow in a powerful tradition of nursery rhymes, which have long supplied a sometimes coded oral history of key royal and political events.<br><br>Baker Tony's Pizza<br><br>Baker Tony baked a pizza<br>very round and thin<br>He said he added olives<br>but he never put them in<br>The stuff that he had grated<br>and sprinkled on to please<br>was only yellow sawdust<br>although he called it cheese<br>The rich tomato topping<br>was nothing more than dye<br>so Baker Tony's pizza<br>made all the children cry<br><br>By Angela Martin, aged 57<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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PIZZA

Postby rain » Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:26 am

WE DELIVER<br><br>BRITISH JUSTICE<br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re:The two soldiers were using a civilian car packed with ex

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Sep 20, 2005 9:40 am

The two soldiers were using a civilian car packed with explosives,""<br><br>Iraqi police detain two British soldiers in Basra <br><br>www.chinaview.cn 2005-09-19 22:46:55 <br><br>BAGHDAD, Sept. 19 (Xinhuanet) -- Iraqi police detained two British soldiers in civilian clothes in the southern city Basra for firing on a police station on Monday, police said. <br><br>"Two persons wearing Arab uniforms opened fire at a police station in Basra. A police patrol followed the attackers and captured them to discover they were two British soldiers," an Interior Ministry source told Xinhua. <br><br>The two soldiers were using a civilian car packed with explosives, the source said. <br><br>He added that the two were being interrogated in the police headquarters of Basra. <br><br>The British forces informed the Iraqi authorities that the two soldiers were performing an official duty, the source said. British military authorities said they could not confirm the incident but investigations were underway. Enditem<br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-09/19/content_3514065.htm" target="top">news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-09/19/content_3514065.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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... the big picture

Postby Pants Elk » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:42 am

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessage?topicID=1035.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...1035.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I'm relinking this story because I am AMAZED it seems to have slipped by without comment.<br><br>Yes, BushCo and BlairCo want to stay in Iraq. YES, they want things hot and nasty. And YES they're getting richer every stinking second of their rotten lives. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: ... the big picture

Postby Dreams End » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:49 am

As I added in the comments, it's nice to see this confirmation that the "incompetence" view of history is surely not correct. <br><br>yes, it was the Quiet American. I haven't read the book but in the movie version when the main character sees his that his English buddy was behind a carbomb attack it's very moving. Imagine living in the illusion that our governments don't do such things and being patriotic and all and then actually witnessing something like that.<br><br>How's this playing in Britain? <p></p><i></i>
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agents provocateurs

Postby robertdreed » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:34 am

...and some folks wonder why anyone could have suspicions about 9-11. <p></p><i></i>
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great discussion of this on dailykos right now

Postby maggrwaggr » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:44 pm

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Ley Lines of Power

Postby antiaristo » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:28 pm

I doubt the Ministry of Defence knows anything about what they were up to.<br>It smacks of the Shadow Government, direct from Buckingham Palace.<br>Just like the Force Research Unit under Brigadier Gordon Kerr in Northern Ireland.<br>For more details see my letter to Judge Peter Cory dated 10 July 2003 at<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm9.showMessage?topicID=6.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...ID=6.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br>post 176<br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: Undercover Brits captured with explosives

Postby Starman » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:07 pm

More commentary on Iraqi suspicians and how this most recent incident is playing in the Arab press -- with observations that the Zarquawi boggieman is a Pentagon PR fabrication. I wonder how many suspicious incidents never get reported in the west. Certainly, as there are many folks in the US and Canada who have their suspicians about false-flag terrorism, there must be a sizeable percentage of Iraqis who are highly skeptical about the US and UK role in provoking sectarian and tribal conflict -- esp. as it ONLY benefits the US/UK by deflecting hostility from the invaders/occupiers who clearly have selfish economic and political goals. The sheer wantoness and brutality of the US/UK use of force along with their execrable 'we don't do civilian body-counts' can hardly endear them to the populace -- the only strategy they have left, having so miserably bungled 'winning' the hearts and minds and providing the 'benefits' of post-war reconstruction, is to terrorize the population into accomodating the US's by-proxy governorship. Apparently the Pentagon planners responsible for such a stupid gamble think Iraqis are as gullible and braindead as Americans who support Bush's 'leadership' and who readily fall prey to neocon propaganda. Surprise, surprise. America's fifty-year betrayal of Iraq's soverignty and its citizen's civil and human rights can NEVER be justified. It isn't like Iraq interfered in American politics and installed their chosen-puppet as US President. The initial crime of a US-engineered coup is what has led to America's illegal occupation and war-crimes -- that's the blind spot in American politics which reveals the depths of moral depravity, hypocrisy and cowardice which has infected Government, hijacked by the corporatocracy. For the life of me, I don't see how We, The People can reclaim and restore a legal and accountable civil society with true self-rule government without dismantling the Republican Party and making it illegal (and putting its top officials in prison for a long, long, long, long time.)<br><br>Anyway ...<br>Starman<br>****<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mike_whi_050920_who_s_blowing_up_ira.htm">www.opednews.com/articles...up_ira.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Who's Blowing up Iraq? <br>by Mike Whitney <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.opednews.com">www.opednews.com</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Who’s Blowing Up Iraq? New evidence that bombs are being planted by British Commandos by Mike Whitney<br><br>“The Iraqi security officials on Monday variously accused two Britons they detained of shooting at Iraqi forces or TRYING TO PLANT EXPLOSIVES.” Washington Post, Ellen Knickmeyer, 9-20-05; “British Smash into Jail to Free Two Detained Soldiers”<br><br>In more than two years since the United States initiated hostilities against Iraq, there has never been a positive identification of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.<br>Never. <br><br>That doesn’t mean that he doesn’t exist; it simply suggests that prudent people will challenge the official version until his whereabouts and significance in the conflict can be verified. <br><br>At present, much of the rationale for maintaining the occupation depends on this elusive and, perhaps, illusory figure. It’s odd how Al-Zarqawi appears at the precise coordinates of America’s bombing-raids, and then, miraculously vanishes unscathed from the scene of the wreckage. This would be a remarkable feat for anyone, but especially for someone who only has one leg. <br><br>Al-Zarqawi may simply be a fantasy dreamed up by Pentagon planners to put a threatening face on the Iraqi resistance. The Defense Dept has been aggressive in its effort to shape information in a way that serves the overall objectives of the occupation. The primary aim of the Pentagon’s “Strategic Information” program is to distort the truth in a way that controls the storyline created by the media. Al-Zarqawi fits perfectly within this paradigm of intentional deception. <br><br>The manipulation of information factors heavily in the steady increase of Iraqi casualties, too. Although the military refuses “to do body counts”; many people take considerable interest in the daily death toll. <br>Last week, over 200 civilians were killed in seemingly random acts of violence purportedly caused by al-Zarqawi. But, were they?<br><br>Were these massive attacks the work of al-Zarqawi as the western media reports or some other “more shadowy” force? <br><br>One member of the Iraqi National Assembly. Fatah al-Sheikh, stated, “It seems that the American forces are trying to escalate the situation in order to make the Iraqi people suffer…. There is a huge campaign for the agents of the foreign occupation to enter and plant hatred between the sons of the Iraqi people, and spread rumors in order to scare the one from the other. The occupiers are trying to start religious incitement and if it does not happen, then they will try to start an internal Shiite incitement.”<br><br>Al-Sheikh’s feelings are shared by a great many Iraqis. They can see that everything the US has done, from the forming a government made up predominantly of Shi’ites and Kurds, to creating a constitution that allows the breaking up to the country (federalism), to using the Peshmerga and Badr militia in their attacks on Sunni cities, to building an Interior Ministry entirely comprised of Shi’ites, suggests that the Pentagon’s strategy is to fuel the sectarian divisions that will lead to civil war. Al-Zarqawi is an integral facet of this broader plan. Rumsfeld has cast the Jordanian as the agent-provocateur; the driving force behind religious partition and antagonism. <br><br>But, al-Zarqawi has nothing to gain by killing innocent civilians, and everything to lose. If he does actually operate in Iraq, he needs logistical supporting all his movements; including help with safe-houses, assistants, and the assurance of invisibility in the community. (“The ocean in which he swims”) These would disappear instantly if he recklessly killed and maimed innocent women and children. <br><br>Last week the Imam of Baghdad’s al-Kazimeya mosque, Jawad al-Kalesi said, that “al-Zarqawi is dead but Washington continues to use him as a bogeyman to justify a prolonged military occupation….He’s simply an invention by the occupiers to divide the people.” Al-Kalesi added that al-Zarqawi was killed in the beginning of the war in the Kurdish north and that “His family in Jordan even held a ceremony after his death.” (AFP)<br><br>Most Iraqis probably agree with al-Kalesi, but that hasn’t deterred the Pentagon from continuing with the charade. This is understandable given that al-Zarqawi is the last tattered justification for the initial invasion. It’s doubtful that the Pentagon will ditch their final threadbare apology for the war. But the reality is vastly different from the spin coming from the military. In fact, foreign fighters play a very small role in Iraq with or without al-Zarqawi. As the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) revealed this week in their report, “Analysts and government officials in the US and Iraq overstated the size of the foreign element in the Iraqi insurgency…… Iraqi fighters made up less than 10% of the armed groups’ ranks, perhaps, even half of that.” The report poignantly notes that most of the foreign fighters were not previously militants at all, but were motivated by, “revulsion at the idea of an Arab land being occupied by a non-Arab country.”<br><br>The report concludes that the invasion of Iraq has added thousands of “fresh recruits to Osama bin Laden’s network;” a fact that is no longer in dispute among those who have studied the data on the topic.<br>The al-Zarqawi phantasm is a particularly weak-link in the Pentagon’s muddled narrative. The facts neither support the allegations of his participation nor prove that foreigners are a major contributor to the ongoing violence. Instead, the information points to a Defense establishment that cannot be trusted in anything it says and that may be directly involved in the terrorist-bombings that have killed countless thousands of Iraqi civilians. <br>Regrettably, that is prospect that can’t be ignored. After all, no one else benefits from the slaughter. <br><br>(Note: Since this article was written, the Washington Post has added to our suspicions. In an Ellen Knickmeyer article “British Smash into Iraqi Jail to free 2 detained Soldiers” 9-20-05, Knickmeyer chronicles the fighting between British forces and Iraqi police who were detaining 2 British commandos. “THE IRAQI SECURITY OFFICIALS ON MONDAY VARIOUSLY ACCUSED THE TWO BRITONS THEY DETAINED OF SHOOTING AT IRAQI FORCES or TRYING TO PLANT EXPLOSIVES.” <br><br>Is this why the British army was ordered to “burst through the walls of an Iraqi jail Monday in the southern city of Basra”…followed by “British armored vehicles backed by helicopter gun-ships” ending in “hours of gun battles and rioting in Basra's streets”? (Washington Post)<br>Reuters reported that “half a dozen armored vehicles had smashed into the jail” and the provincial governor, Mohammed Walli, told news agencies that the British assault was "barbaric, savage and irresponsible."<br>So, why were the British so afraid to go through the normal channels to get their men released?<br><br>Could it be that the two commandos were “trying to plant explosives” as the article suggests?<br>An interview on Syrian TV last night also alleges that the British commandos “were planting explosives in one of the Basra streets”.<br><br>“Al-Munajjid] In fact, Nidal, this incident gave answers to questions and suspicions that were lacking evidence about the participation of the occupation in some armed operations in Iraq. Many analysts and observers here had suspicions that the occupation was involved in some armed operations against civilians and places of worship and in the killing of scientists. But those were only suspicions that lacked proof. The proof came today through the arrest of the two British soldiers while they were planting explosives in one of the Basra streets. This proves, according to observers, that the occupation is not far from many operations that seek to sow sedition and maintain disorder, as this would give the occupation the justification to stay in Iraq for a longer period.<br>[Zaghbur] Ziyad al-Munajjaid in Baghdad, thank you very much.<br>Copyright Syrian Arab TV and BBC Monitoring, 2005” <br>And then there was this on Al-Jazeera TV, Doha, 9-19-05; Interview with Fattah al-Shaykh, member of the National Assembly and deputy for Basra.<br><br>…”the sons of Basra caught two non-Iraqis, who seem to be Britons and were in a car of the Cressida type. It was a booby-trapped car laden with ammunition and was meant to explode in the centre of the city of Basra in the popular market. However, the sons of the city of Basra arrested them. They [the two non-Iraqis] then fired at the people there and killed some of them. The two arrested persons are now at the Intelligence Department in Basra, and they were held by the National Guard force, but the British occupation forces are still surrounding this department in an attempt to absolve them of the crime.”<br><br>Copyright Al Jazeera TV and BBC Monitoring, 2005 (Thanks to Michel Chossudovsky at Global Research for the quotes from Al Jazeera and Syrian TV)<br><br>Does this solve the al-Zarqawi mystery? Are the bombs that are killing so many Iraqi civilians are being planted by British and American Intelligence?<br>We’ll have to see if this damning story can be corroborated by other sources.)<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Confiscated weapons

Postby Fearless » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:37 pm

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Anti-tank missile!

Postby Fearless » Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:51 pm

...<br><br>Iraqi television on Tuesday showed footage of the two soldiers, unshaven and looking nervous as Iraqi police looked over wigs, Arab headresses, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>an anti-tank missile</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and communications equipment, all apparently used in their mission. <br><br>...<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1142658">abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1142658</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Never Apologise, Never Explain

Postby antiaristo » Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:27 pm

The wordsmiths have been hard at work<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>4.15pm <br><br>Basra statement from Brigadier John Lorimer <br><br>Tuesday September 20, 2005 <br><br><br>Following is a statement from Brigadier John Lorimer, commander of 12 mechanised brigade, on yesterday's incidents in Basra.<br>"During the morning two British soldiers were detained at the Jamiat police station in Basra. Under Iraqi law, as MNF [multinational force] soldiers, they should have been handed over to the coalition authorities. The consul general and I asked repeatedly for this but it did not happen.<br><br>"During the day we went to exhaustive lengths to achieve the handover of the soldiers. And in fact, as a result, we understand that the Iraqi interior minister personally ordered the release of the soldiers. However, that order seems to have been ignored.<br><br>"From an early stage, I had good reason to believe that the lives of the two soldiers were at risk and troops were sent to the area of Basra near the police station to help ensure their safety by providing a cordon. As shown on television, these troops were attacked with fire-bombs and rockets by a violent and determined crowd.<br><br>"Later in the day, however, I became more concerned about the safety of the two soldiers after we received information that they had been handed over to militia elements. As a result I took the difficult decision to order entry to the Jamiat police station. By taking this action we were able to confirm that the soldiers were no longer being held by the IPS [Iraqi police service]. An operation was then mounted to rescue them from a house in Basra.<br><br>"I am delighted that the two British soldiers are back with British forces and are in good health. We will be following up with the authorities in Basra why the soldiers were not immediately handed over to MNF as Iraqi law (CPA Order 17) says that they should have been.<br><br>"I should put the scale of yesterday's disorder into context. British armoured vehicles being attacked by a violent crowd, including with petrol bombs, makes graphic television viewing. But this was a small unrepresentative crowd (200-300) in a city of 1.5 million. The vast majority of Iraqi people in MND(SE) [multinational division southeast, the British-patrolled part of southern Iraq] are law abiding and value the contribution made by coalition forces to maintaining stability and security.<br><br>"Minor damage was caused to the prison compound wall and to the house in which our two soldiers were held.<br><br>"It is of deep concern that British soldiers held by the police should end up being held by militia. This is unacceptable and I should stress that we won't hesitate to take action against those who are involved in planning and conducting attacks against coalition forces.<br><br>"Looking ahead, I should stress that the situation in Basra is now calm. We will continue to work closely with local authorities to maintain this calm, and with the Iraqi security forces whose capabilities we are helping to develop. It was a difficult day yesterday, but we have put this behind us and will move on."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1574398,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/S...98,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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