March 20-26: Iran-USA, Beginning of a Major World Crisis?

by **Dreams End** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:14 am

May I offer this possibility. False and idiosyncratic information gets fed into a few select sources...some websites, maybe Pravda...and then they track it to see how quickly information spreads. The apocalyptic kind is particularly effective. May we now lay to rest the Oil Bourse which Ate the World? I can't say that the crisis won't happen as we still have a couple of days in that timeline. Wait...I can say it won't happen, because this disinfo is the same as much that came before it. Who started this one, anyway? Tarpley? <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Tarpley calls for a RED ALERT for synthetic terror in the following terms: "The intense international intelligence warfare pattern mandates a move to red alert -- the highest vigilance -- for the upcoming superbowl Sunday in the USA and the Turin winter Olympics, and perhaps all the way to the March 20 opening of the Iranian oil bourse, which spells the beginning of the end for six decades of world dollar hegemony. The Iranian oil bourse opens March 20 -- this is the strategic key. The Cheneyacs want war to stop the bourse from deflating the sick US dollar. The crumbling of European resistance has given new strength to Condi's nuclear lynch mob against Iran, with that country about to be hauled before the UN Security Council. At that point, a wider Middle East war will be immediately in sight. The Mohammed cartoons are a transparent provocation by NATO intelligence through a Danish right wing newspaper of limited circulation. This classic US-UK provocation has had an enormous effect. Islamic circles need to realize that this is a cynical ploy designed to lead to an attack on Iran and thence to general war, and treat it that way. We had the latest British terror bombing in Achwaz, Iran last week (Jan. 24), killing several people. The trial of British-backed terrorists in Iran starts in about 2 weeks. The situation of the British invaders in southern Iraq is becoming critical. Afghanistan is about to boil over. The US and North Korea are trading nuclear war threats across the 38th parallel. Russia has accused the British of flagrant spying, and there is every reason to believe this charge. Venezuela has expelled a US military attache as an obvious agent provocateur; now the US expels top Venezuelan diplomat. Now the fake provocation of an alleged IED bomb near a school in Gaiithersburg, Maryland in the Washington DC suburbs, impacting the personnel of the Bush administration and the federal government in general; many top officials live within a few miles of this school. There was real hysteria in the corridors of the US government this afternoon. A new Sudden Response terror drill is taking place at Charleston. South Carolina. Will this drill go live in the way other drills went live in London last July 7? The latest leaked Downing Street memorandum reveals Bush as proposing to send US U-2 spy planes disguised in UN colors to be shot down over Iraq to secure a pretext for the illegal aggression there. This reveals Bush in the Operation Northwoods tradition, ready to commit acts of war in the form of impeachable offenses. Detroit is a burned-out auto city, expendable in the eyes of the finance oligarchs. Turin, Italy, home of FIAT, is another expendable burned out ex-industrial city. An action in Turin would push the Europeans to join the US in the attack on Iran. The sinking of the Egptian ferry in the Red Sea may well fit into this pattern, but this is not clear. The Patriot Act has not been renewed. Top neocons face indictment and jail sentences.This is the classic moment when the neocons and their rogue network backers go back to Leo Strauss's nihilist revolution, capable of throwing humanity back into the Stone Age. Webster Griffin Tarpley Washington DC February 4, 2006<hr></blockquote> <a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm17.showMessage?topicID=447.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...=447.topic</a> Notice, again, the failed predictions. But people will still keep quoting him. Another thread says the Iranian Oil Bourse ain't happening...I guess that will be proof that the spooks got to them. And I'm pretty sure the superbowl didn't get blown up...although, having watched it, it sure needed SOME kind of (nonviolent, please) excitement. I'd be very interested if anyone can track exactly who started this Oil Bourse rumor. Was it Tarpley? I googled Larouche on this and he has some long discourses about how it's not a "crisis" in reponse to questions he was being asked...and it almose sounded like he was responding directly to Tarpley. Since I suspect Tarpley has not fallen that far from that particular fascist tree, I do wonder if this proves me wrong...or right....or neither. Or is there another completely separate source for this original Oil Bourse rumor. Byrne, I guess you are the guy we have to ask as you were the one who posted the most on it. Where did the rumor start? I think it's important to note that, and watch how it spread. I don't think it had much impact internationally, but it's an easy one to track as it grew and spread across the internet.

by **Dreams End** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:26 am

Here's an article from August of '05. Anyone have articles that precede it? <a href="http://atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GH26Dj01.html" target="top">atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GH26Dj01.html</a> Looks like the author of that article, Toni Straka, a self-described Vienna based financial journalist, was the one who started this rumor...or at least it's alarmist variety. Anyone heard of him..if you google him, you get pages primarily linked to the above article. Here it is picked up in the Association for Study of Peak Oil Newsletter: <a href="http://www.peakoil.ie/newsletters/647" target="top">www.peakoil.ie/newsletters/647</a> I find nothing on Straka before this blog...and this one article is almost the only one ever mentioned. Curious. He spent "years" as a financial journalist <blockquote>Quote:<hr>For many years I worked for a leading newswire (one article says Reuters). Since then I have learned to understand the ruinous dangers of the concept of credit-induced inflation by heart. If you want to know about the economic future, study history. Money was, is, and will be politics.<hr></blockquote> ...and yet I can't find anything with his name other than the blog articles? This guy...webwise, didn't even exist before 2005. Using an alias? I guess that's possible...but no reason to in the context of his blog. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dreamsend@rigorousintuition>Dreams End</A> at: 3/25/06 3:59 am

by **starroute** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:20 pm

He does seem to be born out of nowhere c. April 2005, complete with two blogs, an email account, and a <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/18089544@N00/">Flickr account</a> that mixes financial charts with pictures of his family on vacation in Bermuda and biking along the Danube. So presumably it's not his real name -- but does that make him any more sinister than any other anonymous blogger?

by **Dreams End** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:04 pm

Why is he anonymous. And why is he anonymous and posting pics of his family? I can buy that it's a pseudonym, but most pseudonymous bloggers these days have obvious made up names. Something about him is fake...and I'm thinking it's not just his name...but really no way to tell.

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:13 pm

I don't think it makes sense to suggest, as you did DE, that 'perhaps Tarpley doesn't fall far from the fascist tree of Larouche.' I understand that anything related to Larouche pushes your alarm buttons but Tarpley helped write the very important 'Unauthorized Biography of George Bush' which exposed nearly 100 years of fascist elite crimes against humanity with the Bush family as central carrier wave for the narrative. <a href="http://www.padrak.com/alt/BUSHBOOK.html#BOOKPARTS">www.padrak.com/alt/BUSHBO...#BOOKPARTS</a> Tarpley's 'Synthesized Terror' book with outlines like this below are also very important to exposing the mechanisms of the fascist National inSecurity State and rule by tension components. So I don't think casting suspicion on Tarpley is warranted just because a 9/11-type event didn't happen. Just the reasons he cites for keeping your eyes open is an important anti-fascist education. <a href="http://www.waronfreedom.org/synth/roguemap.png">www.waronfreedom.org/synth/roguemap.png</a> <a href="http://www.waronfreedom.org/synthumb.jpg">www.waronfreedom.org/synthumb.jpg</a> <a href="http://www.waronfreedom.org/pix/model.jpg">www.waronfreedom.org/pix/model.jpg</a> <a href="http://www.waronfreedom.org/pix/chart.jpg">www.waronfreedom.org/pix/chart.jpg</a> <a href="http://www.waronfreedom.org/flowchart.pdf">www.waronfreedom.org/flowchart.pdf</a> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 3/25/06 2:28 pm

by **Byrne** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:23 pm

I am just back from holiday, so have some catching up to do, but hopefully this will provide some answers DE, as to your requests for earlier published info on the proposed IOB: I first read of the Oil Currency connection from the William Clark <a href="http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/RRiraqWar.html" target="top">essay that I linked to earlier</a>. Clark also published the essay <a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html" target="top">The Real Reasons Why Iran is the Next Target: The Emerging Euro-denominated International Oil Marker</a> in October 2004. Clark seems to have been the one commentator to draw links between possible Iranian oil bourse trading & the potential associated effect on the present US OilDollar hegemony. His Oct '04 essay cites the following 2 news reports: [4] Shivkumar, C., "Iran offers oil to Asian union on easier terms," The Hindu Business Line (June 16, 2003). <a href="http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/bline/2003/06/17/stories/2003061702380500.htm" target="top">www.thehindubusinessline.com/bline/2003/06/17/stories/2003061702380500.htm</a> [5] Macalister, Terry, "Iran takes on west's control of oil trading," The [UK] Guardian, June 16, 2004 <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,3604,1239644,00.html" target="top">www.guardian.co.uk/business/story/0,3604,1239644,00.html</a> (Incidentally, the Guardian has NEVER, since that one & only article of June 04, mentioned the IOB again.) Other references cited in the oct '04 essay are as follows: [6] "US to invade Iran before 2005 Christmas," News Insight: Public Affairs Magazine, June 9, 2004 <a href="http://www.newsinsight.net/nati2.asp?recno=2789" target="top">www.newsinsight.net/nati2.asp?recno=2789</a> [7] "Iran Eyes Deal on Oil Bourse; IPE Chairman Visits Tehran," Rigzone.com (July 8, 2004) <a href="http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=14588" target="top">www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=14588</a> [8] "Iran's oil bourse expects to start by early 2006," Reuters, October 5, 2004 <a href="http://www.iranoilgas.com" target="top">www.iranoilgas.com</a> [9] "Iran Eyes Deal on Oil Bourse, IPE Chairman Visits Tehran," ibid. [1<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]"> "The Choice of Currency for the Denomination of the Oil Bill," Speech given by Javad Yarjani, Head of OPEC's Petroleum Market Analysis Dept, on The International Role of the Euro (Invited by the Spanish Minister of Economic Affairs during Spain's Presidency of the EU) (April 14, 2002, Oviedo, Spain) <a href="http://www.opec.org/NewsInfo/Speeches/sp2002/spAraqueSpainApr14.htm" target="top">www.opec.org/NewsInfo/Speeches/sp2002/spAraqueSpainApr14.htm</a> [11] Russia shifts to euro as foreign currency reserves soar," AFP, June 9, 2003 <a href="http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/7214-3.cfm" target="top">www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/7214-3.cfm</a> [12] "China to diversify foreign exchange reserves," China Business Weekly, May 8, 2004 <a href="http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-05/08/content_328744.htm" target="top">www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-05/08/content_328744.htm</a> [13] "Terror & regime change: Any US invasion of Iran will have terrible consequences," News Insight: Public Affairs Magazine, June 11, 2004 <a href="http://www.indiareacts.com/archivedebates/nat2.asp?recno=908&ctg=World" target="top">www.indiareacts.com/archivedebates/nat2.asp?recno=908&ctg=World</a> [14] Analysis of Abu Musa Island, www.globalsecurity.org <a href="http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/abu-musa.htm" target="top">www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/abu-musa.htm</a> [15] J.W. Smith, "Destabilizing a Newly-Free Iran," The Institute for Economic Democracy, 2003 <a href="http://www.ied.info/books/why/control.html" target="top">www.ied.info/books/why/control.html</a> [16] "War-Gaming the Mullahs: The U.S. weighs the price of a pre-emptive strike," ibid. [17] Salama, Sammy and Ruster, Karen,"A Preemptive Attack on Iran's Nuclear Facilities: Possible Consequences," Monterry Institute of International Studies, August 12, 2004 (updated September 9, 2004) <a href="http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/040812.htm" target="top">cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/040812.htm</a> [18] Philips, Peter, "Censored 2004," Project Censored, Seven Stories Press, (2003) <a href="http://www.projectcensored.org/" target="top">www.projectcensored.org/</a> Story #19: U.S. Dollar vs. the Euro: Another Reason for the Invasion of Iraq <a href="http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2004/19.html" target="top">www.projectcensored.org/publications/2004/19.html</a>

by **Dreams End** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:04 pm

Hugh, I've yet to see Tarpley give an accounting of his time with cult leader and fascist Larouche. Like I said, I'll bet he HAS made some sort of public statement, but I've never seen it. To have worked that closely for that long with him, If he's THAT good a researcher...why did he not see what was up with Larouche?...sorry...I stay suspicious. Plus...he was wrong...and these sorts of coming apocalypse predictions are getting to be a dime a dozen. My feeling is that, as a "serious researcher" you'd want to be fairly sure of your facts before scaring the hell out of people...unless scaring the hell out of them is the point. (I mean about specific events in the future, obviously any true expose of how things work will be scary.) Byrne...which of those specifically deal with the iran oil bourse rumor...that's the one I specifically want to track. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dreamsend@rigorousintuition>Dreams End</A> at: 3/25/06 3:08 pm

by **Byrne** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:23 pm

DE, William Clark's October 2004 article deals with the proposed Iranian Oil Bourse topic in its entirety (as at Oct. 04). Read the article: The Real Reasons Why Iran is the Next Target: The Emerging Euro-denominated International Oil Marker <a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html" target="top">here</a>.. The reference links I quoted are cited by him in his article.

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:15 pm

Guess I can understand your wondering whether there is something we don't know about Tarpley and I'm always open to more info on anyone. I don't mean to drag out Larouche again (please, no!) but suggest a motive and justification for Tarpley's previous association. Back in the 1987-1992 post-IranContra transition period from a Reagan-Bush cabal to a President Bush cabal I can understand if Tarpley was focused on the Nazi war criminal-JFK killing-cocaine smuggling CIA-Bush Crime Family's rise to the throne and NOT on Larouche who seems to have been trying at the time to expose that cabal's tactics like the October Surprise and got jailed for it. I know that Larouche is more complicated than this thumbnail but I'm comparing the danger of Larouche to the Bushes at the time. No contest, right? Or atleast easy to see it that way without being a fascist, quite the opposite. Even former Council on Foreign Relations Director Bill Moyers did a documentary called 'The Secret Government' to highlight the dangers of who was running Washington, DC back then. So alarm over the rise of American Fascism was ringing in the minds of even elite insiders just as I'm sure it is now. I don't know the intracacies of Larouche's attitudes (as you have pointed out to me all too clearly while only belatedly admitting how huge his output is to analyze) but I see more and more that people are getting discredited for previous associations in a world full of the well-meaning, partly wrong, or outrightly deceptive. There are people accidentally mixing in bad info and others intentionally doing so. Judging which is which gets trickier everyday that more disinfo is sown around every topic. "See if you can free yourself from this one, Fact Man. Bwahaha!" Throw in the flipside of 'useful idiots' which is 'useful geniuses' and you have quite a lot to sort through. Good people get tarred as bad with many tricks of the trade. So when I do my cost-benefit assessment of where someone like Tarpley fits in, the info he's presented which I put in my previous post is a pretty huge factor for me. REALLY huge. He'd almost have to be secretly working for Rumsfeld to undue his place in my hall of intelligent heroes just for posting those charts of the Octopus infrastructure that anyone can understand in a glance. If you have some indication that Tarpley is racist or anti-semitic or knowingly peddling disinfo, I'm all eyes cuz I've been wrong before like on the mixed messages from Larouche which you pointed out.

by **Dreams End** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:01 pm

This article was referred to by Clark: <a href="http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,3604,1239644,00.html">business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,3604,1239644,00.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Iran is to launch an oil trading market for Middle East and Opec producers that could threaten the supremacy of London's International Petroleum Exchange. A contract to design and establish a new platform for crude, natural gas and petrochemical trades is expected to be signed with an international consortium within days. Top oil producing countries are determined to seize more control of trading after being advised that existing markets such as the IPE and Nymex in New York are not working in their favour. Article continues Three years ago a former compliance director accused the IPE of manipulating prices, although these allegations were dismissed after an investigation. The Tehran oil bourse is scheduled to open in 2005, according to its architect, Mohammad Javad Asemipour, who is a personal adviser to the Iranian energy minister. <hr></blockquote> So what happened? Now Iran is saying there was no such plan. So far, it looks to me like the proposed Oil bourse really was announced..I can't find the original announcement but it was covered in the MSM like the Guardian. Then come these dire predictions and then no bourse...at least not for now...the original article now adds the note that the proposed date is "early 2006" suggesting delay. So maybe it's simply a matter of people grabbing this and exaggerating the significance. I was always a little suspect of the whole bourse thing. Not because the petrodollars theory sounds loony...sounds rational to me, but because of it's emphasis on this one factor...I've seen this before...it's all about one thing and one thing only. The Peak Oil theories are like that. Peak Oil is the sole explanation for the Iraq war, 9/11 etc. Here's Clark's original prediction from that article: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> It is abundantly clear that a 2nd Bush term will bring a confrontation and possible war with Iran during 2005. Colin Powell as the Secretary of the State, has moderated neoconservative military designs regarding Iran, but Powell has stated that he will be leaving at the end of Bush’s first term. Of course if John Kerry wins in November, he might pursue a similar military strategy. However, it is my opinion that Kerry is more likely to pursue multilateral negotiations regarding the Iranian issues.<hr></blockquote> I'd like to keep looking into this. Lots of interesting subplots. Clark's publisher, for example, is the same as Heinberg's. And Clark seems to buy into Peak Oil, so there's some of that. I'm not saying this is all a scam, but I think it's interesting. Byrne, what do you think is up with the bourse? With these dire predictions? Has your opinion changed due to the 26th arriving with no nuclear wars? Just curious.

by **chiggerbit** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:03 pm

Even if the Iranian Oil Bourse does come to be, it won't in and of itself cause a crisis. But there are always unintended consequences that can fuel a crisis by heaping insult on injury, like the housing bubble bursting, inflation, more and more natural disasters like Katrina, maybe bird flu, geological crises, etc. But, I still say that this country has earned a whole shitload of resentment, much from oil-producing countries and old enemies, and if push comes to shove, many of these countries will choose not come to our aid unless it is their best interests to do so.

by **Dreams End** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:11 pm

Hugh...as recently as 1995, Tarpley was hosting a Larouche radio program. I have no idea if he's racist or not, that's not the point. As I've mentioned before, repeatedly, usually my concern about "anti-Semitic" theory is not about discerning the heart of the purveyor but simply noting such theory as a way of tracking bad information. The things you mentioned, the Moyer's program for example (I sat enraptured on it's original air date, though I have no idea where I actually was!) this bothers me a great deal. Much of that was straight out of Christic Institute...and they DID acknowledge working with Larouche associates on that lawsuit that led to all of the Iran Contra stuff (they deny any of the Larouche stuff made it in). And it was Christic lawyer Sheehan's insistence of including the "secret government" theories in the lawsuit that completely destroyed an easy win. This is his M.O. by the way... Oh, and he's now moved onto UFO research with the Disclosure project and continues to mix in the secret government themes in that arena. My point is that all this stuff is so tainted. Whether from independent cryptofascist ideology or some larger attempt at disinformation I am not sure. But let me ask you this: If Tarpley is so concerned about stopping fascists, where is his expose on Larouche? He has ALL the goods, so why not stop others from being duped as he was? I think this is important. I'd like to look into this more..and it should probably go on another thread. I've just sketched things here, but I've written rather extensively about Sheehan, for example, in other posts. He pops up in some weird ass places, such as Dennis Kucinich's campaign, which itself seems to have been spearheaded by the Transcendental Meditation movement, represented by Sheehan and also seeming to be connected to the rather cultish Stephen Greer, founder of the Disclosure Project. This all smacks of intel games to me, as does the whole Tarpley/Larouche split. But seriously...research it. I will too. I'm interested in Tarpley's take on larouche now. He just appeared at that conference with Chaitkin and Larouche's wife, so it just looks like he's that his split with Larouche, even if genuine, is not as thorough as I'd expect from someone who knows what they are really about.

by **NewKid** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:25 pm

DE, in 25 words or less, what is Larouche's agenda?<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin">

by **Dreams End** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:33 pm

TO FUCK UP THE LEFT. How's that?

by **chiggerbit** » Sat Mar 25, 2006 10:23 pm

Transcendental Meditation movement Oh, crap, please, not the enema-obsessed TMers? (Frankly, this link is acting weird, so I'm not sure I trust it.) <a href="http://www.middleeastforex.com/index.php?section=147">www.middleeastforex.com/i...ection=147</a> UAE, Saudi considering to move reserves out of dollar WASHINGTON — A number of Middle Eastern central banks said on Tuesday they would seek to switch reserves from the US greenback to euros. The United Arab Emirates said it was considering moving one-tenth of its dollar reserves to the euro, while the governor of the Saudi Arabian central bank condemned the decision by the United States to force Dubai Ports World to transfer its ownership to a ‘US entity,’ the UK Independent reported. “Is it protectionism or discrimination? Is it okay for US companies to buy everywhere but it is not okay for other companies to buy the US?” said Hamad Saud Al Sayyari, the governor of the Saudi Arabian monetary authority. The head of the United Arab Emirates central bank, Sultan Nasser Al Suweidi, said the bank was considering converting 10 per cent of its reserves from dollars to euros. “They are contravening their own principles,” said Al Suweidi. “Investors are going to take this into consideration (and) will look at investment opportunities through new binoculars.” The Commercial Bank of Syria has already switched the state’s foreign currency transactions from dollars to euros, Duraid Durgham head of the state-owned bank said. The decision by the bank of Syria follows the announcement by the White House calling on all US financial institutions to end correspondent accounts with Syria due to money-laundering concerns. Syria’s Finance Minister Mohammad Al Hussein said: “Syria affirms that this decision and its timing are fundamentally political.”-Khaleej Times Online Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 3/25/06 7:50 pm

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