Robin Cook giving out the clues

by **Peachtree Pam** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:58 pm

Robin Cook says that the original use of "Al Qaeda" was as the name of the CIA's database of fighters against the mujahadeen in Afghanistan...he is trying to help... <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1523838,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/terror...38,00.html</a>

by **Peachtree Pam** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:19 am

<a href="http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/">www.conspiracyplanet.com/</a>

by **antiaristo** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:08 am

Pam, This may be another clue: *** BREAKING IN SAUDI ARABIA *** July 8, 2005 -- The pro-Al Qaeda Saudi magazine, Sawt al Jihad, published a letter from a "Lewis Atiyallah," a leading Al Qaeda figure in Saudi Arabia, specifically warning Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi that Al Qaeda has old scores to settle with Italy. Atiyallah also states that the next attack "will be worse" and that it will entail a "huge explosion." The Al Qaeda message also mentions Fabrizio Quattrochi, one of four Italian security guards kidnaped and killed by Jihadists in Iraq in April 2004. It is believed that the late SISMI Deputy Chief Nicola Calipari first detected U.S. and Iraq occupation government involvement with Jihadist terrorists during the Quattrochi kidnaping. <a href="http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/">www.waynemadsenreport.com/</a> What's the clue? What do you think of the name "Lewis Atiyallah"? Does Lewis sound like an Arab name? "Lewis" is the name Freemasons give to the son of a Mason, who is allowed to join the organization at 18 rather than the usual 21. EVERY Freemason will recognise this code. Just as every Freemason recognised Colin Powell's reference to "the warrior on the block".

by **michael meiring** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:38 am

its a pity this little insidious man didant speak up when he was supporting Uk government terrorism when he was in parliment and had a voice through main stream media presstitutes.

by **antiaristo** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:50 am

Michael, Why do you label Cook as "insideous"? They all have a range of action to choose from at any point in time. In my view Cook has at least TRIED to do the right thing in any given circumstance. Robin Cook KNOWS what happened to John Smith.

by **Peachtree Pam** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:53 am

Antiaristo, Sure it is a coded clue. I do not know much about the Freemasons, other than they are part of the entire global conspiracy. Blowing up the "Tavistock" bus was also a coded clue to say to us "OK, you know who did it, and what will you do about it - a taunt". I am now convinced that Calipari had learned of the enormous extent of Israeli and US involvement in the kidnappings in Iraq and the bombings, promoted as "Arab" atrocities..remember the two Italian women kidnapped in broad daylight by "Western" looking men while local police stood by and watched. It is all the same. I am also convinced that Calipari was the target of the assaaaination, and not the journalist for these reasons. No, the curtain is opening on the next act: Bush will try to leverage London to get support to attack Iran, but I am cautiously optimistic that he is in such deep trouble, particularly with the "Plame"affair, his sinking effort to "reform" Social Security", the stagnant economy, the quagmire in Iraq, and a host of other issues that he will be thwarted. Here is the problem: if he can't get these problems solved, the people controlling him (Daddy being one of the most important) will provide him with more "leverage" and we all know what that means. Can you tell me what the "warrior on the block" means? The significance?

by **Peachtree Pam** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:35 am

<a href="http://www.rense.com/general65/strat2.htm">www.rense.com/general65/strat2.htm</a>

by **antiaristo** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:02 am

Pam, The "warrior on the block" expression is from the grand old man of American Freemasonry, Albert Pike. It appears in his magnum opus Morals and Dogma. I'm not the best at digging stuff out. The quote itself relates to the nature of power an the key to how to use it. My interpretation (and I'm glad to be educated) is that if one wants power one must be willing to use power WITHOUT CONSTRAINT. A variation on Crowley and the Law of Thelema. Powell used the quote at the time he was seeking to convince the UNSC to pass the second resolution. PS I'm not convinced the Tavistock Square bomb was other than a wierd coincidence. The number 30 bus usually doesn't travel that route, and had been diverted around where one of the bombs had been detonated. But I do think GHWBMC was onto something before he took off in a huff (the Skolnik story).

by **segovius** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:17 am

It sounded good but I'm afraid Cook is wrong. 'al Qaeda' means 'the base' or foundation in Arabic - it is not the word for database and comes from a quite different root. Arabic is a root language - ie the vowels are not written but inferred and only the 'root' consonants are written. Thus a word is susceptible to many different meanings but - and this is the point - they are all (generally) linked to each other. Thus in this case it can mean home, base or fundamental foundation etc depending on the vowels inferred between the qaf-ayn-dal (ie: k, ', d) root - all these words are to do with 'foundations' and 'bases'.

by **Seventhson** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:41 am

Why wouldn't these words be used by Arabic specialists in the CIA who were setting up financing for Osama et al? That these same honchos would then use it as a propaganda tool in a very effective way: "Our database" is who the bad guys are, seems reasonable. Maybe the terms were adopted by those who were in the database. But Cook is in a position to know. I forget what his position was (a little help here?) but clearly he had access to intel that would confirm this for him and therefore trying to discredit this story with a fluffy argument in semantics is illusory at best and disinformation at worst. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now. But the argument that Cook is wrong is a very very poor one, especially given Cook's inside info.

by **anonymous** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:53 am

"Blowing up the "Tavistock" bus was also a coded clue to say to us "OK, you know who did it..." Mahatma Gandhi? Tavistock Square is the site of a memorial to conscientious objectors, a tree dedicated to the victims of Hiroshima, a Holocaust memorial, and a statue of the Mahatma. It's part of the London Peace Trail. You might try to make something of that -- deliberately ironic symbolism -- or the Tavistock Institute as on the other thread, or what you will, but it's just a guessng game. Personally I vote for the Sir Francis Drake angle.

by **rain** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:42 am

... that it blew up right outside the B.M.A. building, the front of which was said to be splattered with blood; or that a guy who just happens to be researching al qaeda ('they're all trained in north africa and france,you know'), just happens to be in the vicinity at the time, and just happens to be available for an interveiw. and now from Cook's 'revelation' of thousands (of trained terrorists) on the database, which curiously mirrors Kashani's 'well, they're your children', guess what happens next. nice, neat shepherding. sorry antiaristo, but I have to concur with MM here - 'insidious'. not for a moment do I think that the conveniently constructed patsies actually did it. and that's a sufficiently evidenced m.o. too. and as for Sir Francis Drake, I just can't help but be reminded of that pic of those two all geared up in the 'hide' for a bit of hunting. 'duck!'

by **antiaristo** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:56 am

rain, I guess I see Cook saying "There is no such thing as al-Qaeda." You see him setting up "thousands of patsies". We'll have to see it played out. But I must admit to a soft spot for Robin Cook. He is one of the very very few who have acknowledged me and my plight. Another was the Archbishop of Canterbury. And Rowan is paying a fearsome price.

by **Peachtree Pam** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 12:21 pm

Rain and Antiaristo, I saw Cook's remark as trying obliquely to link "Al Queda" and the CIA, to make it clear that AQ, if it exists, is composed of CIA assets. When I heard that the bus was a Tavistock bus, I thought of the Tavistock Institute. Of course it is all guessing, we are still "guessing" about 9/11, and trying to understand how it was pulled off and by whom.

by **rain** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:14 pm

understood and conceded, antiaristo. you must be a very gentle soul. but then I've read where you call it as you truly see it. Robin Cook is in the position to do likewise. more teasing ? i). St. Augustine. ii). Act of Settlement 1701.

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