West Nile Bio-Terror = Public Demand for Spraying

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West Nile Bio-Terror = Public Demand for Spraying

Postby proldic » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:14 pm

From Lodi News-Sentinel Aug 15, 2005: <br><br>West Nile virus victim's family angry at county, state officials <br><br>By Ross Farrow<br>Staff Writer <br><br>Family members remained angry Sunday at state and county authorities over the death of Acampo resident James "Jim" Rodgers.<br><br>"I'm very angry," said Pam Shands, one of Rodgers' two daughters. "He was healthy Saturday (Aug. 6). I shouldn't have to be worrying about my dad dying from a bug bite." ...<br><br>Rodgers, 86, died four days later in what is being described as Northern California's first fatal case of the West Nile virus this year...<br> <br>Rodgers appeared to be quite healthy until the afternoon of Aug. 6, when neighbors described him as "hallucinating." He was taken to Dameron Hospital in Stockton that night and died on Wednesday...<br><br>Authorities haven't publicized it enough to the community how deadly serious the disease is, nor have they done what they can to remove stagnant water, a favorite breeding ground for mosquitoes, which transmit West Nile, the Shands family said.<br><br>They also say that county officials were too secretive about Rodgers' death... <br><br>Nevertheless, the Shands maintain that county health officials should have alerted Arbor residents Wednesday night about the potential of the West Nile virus being in their backyard. Instead, mosquito abatement officials waited until Thursday night to discuss the virus with residents.<br><br>"Wouldn't you want to know Wednesday night?" Shands' husband, Dave Shands asked rhetorically...<br><br>John Stroh, manager of the county mosquito abatement district, said...that he couldn't discuss deaths related to the West Nile virus.<br><br>Information about any deaths caused by West Nile can only be answered by the county's public health department, Stroh said, but no such representatives attended the mobile home park meeting. The only issue Stroh said he was allowed to discuss that night was killing mosquitoes and how to avoid being bitten by one...<br><br>..."California had plenty of time to know this was coming."...<br><br>The public doesn't realize how painful a West Nile death can be, Pam Shands said...<br> <br>"It was a horrible, horrible death,"... "He was gasping for air for three days."<br><br>She said she wonders if Rodgers' death was California's fourth, as state officials maintain. Could deaths caused by pneumonia, meningitis and other diseases been a result of West Nile as well, Pam Shands asked.<br><br>"I don't want to be a drama queen, but we need to get (the facts) out there."<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.lodinews.com/articles/2005/08/15/news/1_nile_050815.txt">www.lodinews.com/articles...050815.txt</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Key opponent of Peak Oil scam was 4th CA West Nile Death

Postby proldic » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:31 pm

From "When Peak Oil Meets the West Nile Virus" <br>by Dave McGowan:<br><br>" I don't know how much press attention the story has gotten outside of the region, so to bring the potentially uninformed up to date, there has been a series of deaths in recent months in Southern California that have been attributed to the dreaded 'West Nile Virus.' According to the official party line, the virus is being spread by infected mosquitos, which are picking up the disease from infected birds.<br><br>I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that is very unlikely that 'West Nile Virus' actually exists as a specific, identifiable viral agent. And if it does exist, there is no evidence that it is pathogenic. As one illuminating post concludes, after reviewing the medical literature, "It is quite clear that West Nile Virus has never been purified, and that without purification not only is it impossible to say whether it is the cause of the disease that it is associated with, but it is impossible to say whether it even exists."<br>(<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.mercola.com/2001/oct/3/west_nile_virus.htm)">www.mercola.com/2001/oct/...virus.htm)</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Even if the virus does exist, and even if it is pathogenic, it seems very unlikely that it has been the cause of death in the Southern California cases. The ten purported victims were, overall, an elderly bunch, and most had preexisting health conditions. The oldest was 91; the average age of the ten was 75. No offense to the surviving family members of the deceased, but these weren't people who needed some exotic virus to finish them off; they were people with one foot in the grave and the other on the proverbial banana peel.<br><br><br>Not surprisingly, this alleged deadly outbreak has been seized upon as a pretext to further advance the police state, and to further blur the line between healthcare and law enforcement. Wholesale spraying of who-knows-what has become all the rage in some parts of town, and there has been talk of greatly expanding the police powers of county health officials, including granting them the power to enter upon any property, at any time, in search of any potential mosquito breeding grounds (as if it is possible to eliminate every drop of standing water in all of Los Angeles, Orange, and San Bernadino Counties). Next on the agenda will probably be another round of discussions about the need for mandatory vaccinations.<br><br>This is all pretty disturbing stuff, to be sure, but in this post-911 dystopia we live in, it is pretty much par for the course. As anyone with eyes and ears and a few brain cells in between has probably noticed, there are any number of disturbing things happening in the world these days. But the West Nile Virus story took a particularly troubling turn a couple weeks ago.<br><br>While idling watching some of NBC's stellar prime time Olympic coverage last Monday night, I happened to catch a brief teaser for the upcoming evening newscast in which it was announced that the 'West Nile Virus' had claimed another Southern California victim. The man was identified only as a "local political activist." Details, of course, would have to wait. <br><br>So ... I patiently waited through about two hours of NBC's "thought we were arrogant before? how do you like us now?" Olympic coverage, only to find, much to my chagrin, that when the nightly news finally rolled around, the story of the political activist cut down by 'West Nile Virus' had disappeared. I guess they couldn't fit it in around all the recaps of what they had just finished broadcasting.<br><br>So ... the next morning, I turned to the ever-vigilant Los Angeles Times to get the inside story, and ... nothing. Not a word. So I checked again the next day, and still found nothing. The day after that, I apparently did not read far enough into a report carrying the headline "Woman's Death May Be State's 10th W. Nile Fatality" to find what I was looking for. But I did find it when I conducted a web search a few days later. It was in the closing paragraph of the August 26 LA Times report:<br><br>Also on Tuesday, a 62-year-old Claremont man who died of complications from the virus was honored as a Green Party activist. Walter Sheasby, whose death from West Nile on Thursday was Los Angeles County's fourth, ran twice for the House of Representatives.<br><br>Anyone who has been closely following these newsletters in recent months should recognize the name Walter Sheasby. If not, then here's a reminder: Walter Contreras Sheasby was the gentleman who, late last year, penned a devastating exposé on the real backers of the 'Peak Oil' scam. In March of this year, I posted Sheasby's piece as my Newsletter #55 (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr55.html).">www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr55.html).</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> Here are a few of the more provocative snippets:<br><br><snip><br>In fact the coalition that is pushing for a radical new energy policy is largely composed of those who stand to benefit from a revival, not a phase out, of oil and gas development.<br><snip><br>"This much is known, Kenneth Deffeyes writes, "the loudest warnings about the predicted peak of world oil production came from Petroconsultants." In a late 1998 merger Petroconsultants became IHS Energy Group, a subsidiary of Information Handling Services Group (IHS Group), a diversified conglomerate owned by Holland America Investment Corp., IHS Group's immediate parent company, for the Thyssen-Bornemisza Group (TBG, Inc.). In the 1920s George Herbert Walker and his son-in-law, Prescott Bush, had helped the Thyssen dynasty finance its acquisitions through Union Banking Corp. and Holland-American Trading Corp.<br><snip><br>ASPO has Associate members like Halliburton and financial sponsors like Schlumberger.<br><snip><br><br><br>ASPO, of course, is the Association for the Study of Peak Oil and Gas, a group relentlessly promoted by the 'Peak Oil' crowd. Schlumberger has been described by Ruppert himself as the "world's premier oil drilling firm." And I think we all know who Halliburton is ... I mean, besides being a bedmate of the 'Peak Oil' promoters.<br><br>Sheasby had much more to say in his article and anyone who has not yet read it should definitely do so. Especially now that he's dead ... struck down by a nonexistent virus less than a year after exposing a massive scam known as 'Peak Oil.' Hmmm ...."<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr66.html">www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr66.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>
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CA Protest Over West Nile Spraying

Postby proldic » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:19 pm

From ABCTV 30 Fresno:<br><br>Protest Over West Nile Spraying<br>August 19, 2005 <br><br> ...Ten protesters were at the State Capitol handing out flyers to inform residents about what they call harmful effects of aerial spraying. <br><br>The group argues the spray contains dangerous carcinogens. "The current risk of contracting and dying from West Nile Virus is somewhere around one in a million, where other viruses like Influenza kills about 8,000 Californians a year," said Cary Chleborad, Fight The Flight. <br><br>A state health department doctor says the spray is a natural pesticide. and only 20 percent of what is sprayed from planes actually hits the ground ...<br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/news/081905_nw_wnv.html">abclocal.go.com/kfsn/news...w_wnv.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CA Protest Over West Nile Spraying

Postby ZeroHaven » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:32 pm

only 20% hits the ground.. oh I feel much better.<br>I guess the other 80% hits the trees, the rooftops, the people... <!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.ezboard.com/image/posticons/pi_happydead.gif" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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CA Horse Infections Up 70% - Officials Urge Vaccination

Postby proldic » Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:40 pm

From Ledger Dispatch (Sonora CA)<br>Monday, August 22, 2005 - 11:20 AM:F<br><br>West Nile Infection Among California Horses Continues To Rise<br><br><br>Eric Nelson <br>News Director<br><br>...State health officials say the rate of West Nile virus deaths among California horses is up more than 50% from last year.<br><br>A report released Friday says 93 horses have died from the virus so far this year. Officials say the rate of infection is up more than 70% from last year.<br><br>Health officials fear the infection rate could climb even higher than present levels.<br><br>Horse owners are urged to get their animals vaccinated as soon as possible if they haven't already done so. <br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.mymotherlode.com/News/article/kvml/1124728853">www.mymotherlode.com/News...1124728853</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Curious...

Postby Sokolova » Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:00 am

I've read Sheasby's article and actually find it a little obscure and confused. Is he saying 'Peak Oil' is being invented by oil interest groups? Or...well, actually what <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>is </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->he saying?<br><br>But the article about West Nile virus strikes a chord. I don't know personally if the bug has been isolated - that is seen and identified - but if as the writer says it <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>hasn't</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> then yes, he's right, the whole idea of there even being a 'West Nile Virus', let alone its part in causing any of the deaths attributed to it, would be a nonsense. It would be like pinning a series of murders on a man that some scientist has deduced <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>could</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> exist. <br><br>The guy is also right to say that an elderly man dying of respiratory difficulties is very common and could be the result of any one of a number of underlying pathologies or infection by any one of a thousand organisms, beginning with the common cold (any medic here would confirm that). What reason do we have for invoking a new and 'deadly' bug? If what the writer says is true and the bug has never even been seen, then we have no reason at all and it's simply crazy to talk as if we have.<br><br>I find it quite easy to believe in principle that this writer is correct, since the story follows a similar pattern to other such 'scares' in recent times. SARS is a good case in point. With an infection and mortality rate that seems hardly higher than a fairly average flu virus, it has been presented as threatening the end of human life on this planet. Not a single piece of hard evidence ever supported such an idea, and it seems to have been generated either by human panic or by deliberate seeding of misinformation.<br><br>Yet again a newspaper recently reported that there was '90% probability' of a deadly flu epidemic in the next few years. <br><br>Well, from what I know of virology and epidemiology (not that much, but some), then this is pure hogwash! There is <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>no way</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> it would be possible to assess such a probability and make it that high. What are the statistics being used? We've had one deadly global flu epidemic since the beginning of the 20th C. How many before? Difficult to assess, but not that many. I am not sure if any have been identified in the 19th C at all. Further back than that it gets more difficult to establish anything as records were so bad. But the fact that the Black Death (700 years ago) still stands out in racial memory tells us such crises are not that common, which is pretty much as exact as we can get. <br><br>How, then can a figure of 90% probability be reached? It can't. There are simply too many unknown variables and too little data to begin to make any assessment of probability at all, let alone one so high.<br><br>So, what is this claim actually about? Human hysteria again? Some journo misunderstanding the complex argument of some research team on human epidemiology? <br>Part of a zeitgeist of growing anxiety and paranoia? Or deliberately induced fear for its own end? Because frightened people are easier to control?<br><br>If someone in a position of 'authority' is actually handing out this stuff about '90% probability' and actually telling journos that SARS is a threat to human survivial or that an unisolated virus is killing people, then they are lying pure and simple. That much I do know.<br><br>Ellie <p></p><i></i>
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Citizens Revolt Over West Nile Spraying

Postby proldic » Fri Aug 26, 2005 4:16 pm

Sac Bee-AP Aug 25 '05<br><br>West Nile meeting hampered by revolt<br><br>Pesticide spray opponents reject format<br><br>DAVIS - A public meeting about the use of pesticide sprays to combat West Nile virus took an unexpected turn when angry residents drove government officials from the room and took over.<br><br>Officials tried to set strict ground rules for the session, which was called to answer concerns about possible ground and aerial pesticide spraying to fight the mosquito-born disease. The tactics have been widely used in neighboring Sacramento County, which has reported 70 West Nile cases, nearly a quarter of all the cases this year in California.<br><br>Written questions were to be submitted by audience members and read by Davis Mayor Ruth Asmundson and Yolo County Supervisor Helen Thomson to a panel of officials and experts.<br><br>About 30 minutes into the session, audience members revolted against the format, arguing that residents should be able to speak. Asmundson abruptly halted the session and directed the panel to leave the City Hall dais.<br><br>Opponents of the spraying took over the meeting and quickly restored order. They elected as their leader a local woman who had caught the virus.<br><br>The audience asked about the effectiveness of the pesticides and the possible long-term health effects, but the questions went unanswered because the scientists and government officials had left.<br><br>Asmundson and Thomson eventually returned to listen, and the meeting ended nearly on schedule with a polite round of applause...<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.sacbee.com">www.sacbee.com</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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