Brass Tack(tics)

by **Animus Rex** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 5:48 am

Brass tacks time, folks. It may be constructive for those of us who have been in thick of it, to share our experiences with those who haven’t. I am talking surface level encounters in Creepsville, not philosophy or conjecture. My own experience was analogous to picking up the toe of one huge mother-f**king dragon and having it turn around and look straight at me. I wasn’t particularly naïve (for a Canadian!) but I never expected that. Needless to say, I learned alot and alot that was surprising. I did manage to duck out and now live in relative peace. For what it's worth and as long as it lasts. If any of you think this is a worth talking about, let’s get down to it.

by **FourthBase** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 6:56 am

More details on the toe and the dragon?

by **sussurus2** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:16 pm

Ditto what quadrabasa said. Are you referring to high weirdness, UFO's, or for instance getting into hot water with the PTB and needing to exit for a more rural locale under witness protection, or what? Slightly more context will help folks know how best to respond to your call. S.

by **Animus Rex** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:08 am

Oh! Sorry. I was thinking about Jeff’s post a couple of days ago- he mentioned that he had been receiving mysterious phone calls and that his car had been broken into. I thought it would be fruitful for those of us who have been targeted by the PTB, to share our experiences with those who haven’t and those who may be. I was thinking very simply PTB tactics to suppress dissent- not long term mind control Psyops. Though some may have experienced close encounters of the alien or alienating kind. I, myself have experienced/witnessed a few levels of attack from the PTB (I really don’t know if it was RCMP, FBI, CIFO or a combination) that stratify from more-or-less mundane Cointelpro interventions to psychic/spiritual attacks. Here is a little backgrounder to the issue that I became involved in that I metaphorically referred to as the “toe of a dragon:” <a href="http://www.makingthelinksradio.ca/Main_Page/wolverine.htm">www.makingthelinksradio.c...verine.htm</a>

by **jenz** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:26 pm

So you are suggesting that those of us who have felt the direct effects of inconveniencing the PTB post some indications of our experiences as a friendly warning to those who haven't or sisterly sob in with those who also have these episodes in their lives? Is that right?

by **marykmusic** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:37 pm

Gee, where to start? Ya wanna hear about inconveniences or assassination attempts? About being followed by spooks, or having our email messed with, or about being buzzed by fleets of helicopters (some black) or WWII-era planes flying by at much slower speeds that they need to stay up? About explosions in the sky at night, and search units combing the area at first light? We've seen all that, and more. We also strike back... it is, after all, a war of the magicians. --MaryK

by **dragon** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:25 pm

So what do you want to hear about? Do you want to know the nature of the beast? Do you want to know what its intent and purposes are? Do you want to know how to protect yourself from it? Or do you want to know how to hide from it? There are answers for all those questions, if you want to know. I'll help you find them if that's what you want. What I'm hoping to hear is that you want to find ways to fight back, because it can be done, we are doing it here, and have been for several years. The 'beast' is known to some by that name only, others refer to it generically as the Dark Side. Danny Casolaro called it 'The Octopus', and wrote of it in a book by that name. The beast is known by many names, and it takes on many forms, and will appear in whatever guise it feels is needed to entrap its victims. Lies, fear and deception are its main weapons. The beast is everywhere. That neo-con minister in his pulpit, Donald Rumsfeld in his office, or that talk show host that gives them air time; they are not separate and apart, stand-alone entities. Behind them is The Beast. It is the beast that animates them. And the message is always the same: lies, fear and deception. Fortunately for Our Side, they lie to and deceive each other. That is their weakness, and we exploit that weakness at every opportunity. So did you not know that 'the dragon' was there? Tell us about your encounter with his 'toe'. And now that you are in the Rabbit Hole, are you looking to see how far it goes, or looking for that Blue Pill so you can find your way back out? Anyone out there reading this who wants to engage the Dark Side in combat, write to me off forum and we'll talk some more. It is good that someone brought up this subject. It needs to be openly discussed in this group of aware individuals. And Jeff, if you are reading this, I have just the thing for you to use on your phone. It sends an energy signature back to the listeners and snoopers that they simply cannot abide. Very discouraging to the phone harrassment perpetrators. Dragon

by **anotherdrew** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:40 pm

well I can share a simple example: 2002 or so bush was in town. I went to protest him out by a school where he was speaking. We had a good sized turnout of protestors, I was right at the side of the road when the up-armored limos passed by and am fairly sure my middle finger was raised not more then 10 yards from bush's face. I was taking pictures too. Got them developed at a walgreens near my house. about a week later our phone starts freaking out, all we can get on it is static and silence. I unplug all our phones and just decide to see if the problem resolves itself in time (we could live without it for a bit). A few days later I drive home from work and notice that the front door of my house is open, lights on, but niether of the roommates are seen. I get a warning feeling but notice nothing unusual outside. When I go in I find two young cops talking to my roommates. The cops had been all through the house - searched every room. their reason: suposedly they had gotten a 911 call from the house that had hungup, so they were just checking that everything was ok. Of course they also wanted to ask if we were "out of control" "anarchist types" and questioned us about various flyers and posters and such we had up. Eventually we convinced them we were just yer average punk rocker urban hipster types, nothing to worry about and they left. They seemed to have forgotten all about the bogus 911 call at that point. Also - if they were responding to a 911 call/hangup to check it out - why wasn't their CAR out front? In fact it was nowhere to be seen when I drove up to the house. In fact we couldn't have called 911, since the phone wasn't working. It was still all static no dial-tone that evening. By the time another week had passed, the phone line mysteriously fixed itself, and we were presumably off the local joint terrorism task force watch list or whatever it was that visted us.

by **Animus Rex** » Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:17 pm

I was thinking as an educational tool. Maybe help some poor bugger who cant figure out what the hell is going on.

by **manxkat** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:09 am

dragon said "The beast is everywhere. That neo-con minister in his pulpit, Donald Rumsfeld in his office, or that talk show host that gives them air time; they are not separate and apart, stand-alone entities. Behind them is The Beast. It is the beast that animates them. And the message is always the same: lies, fear and deception. Fortunately for Our Side, they lie to and deceive each other. That is their weakness, and we exploit that weakness at every opportunity." From your description, dragon, I was envisioning a Borg type interconnected entity (as in Star Trek). But then you said they lie and deceive each other. Can you elaborate as to the intricacies of The Beast? How are they collectively linked yet not able to know what each is up to? Without aiming to dismiss your claims about The Beast, my intuition tells me that this is just another term for evil or the devil. We all have the capacity to embrace evil as a way of life, don't we? Isn't it just that simple? And, sure, some of us may be subjected to more evil than others, and some of us may join with evil rather than rejecting it, thereby becoming indoctrinated so to speak. I'm just curious.... although, as they say, curiosity killed the cat.... so I'm not sure how far I want to go with this! Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=manxkat@rigorousintuition>manxkat</A> at: 12/3/05 9:11 pm

by **banned** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:18 am

When I've had my phone tapped and my mail opened, it's been done in such a way that I NOTICED it. Now you can't tell me that by 2005 they don't have phone surveillance that doesn't involve all these clickety clicks and beeps and echo-chamber effects, or that they can't get my mail open and inspect it and close it again without leaving a big old slit. My impression is that for those of us who might be called in France 'les petits pomme de terres', they WANT us to know we're being watched hoping it will scare us enough to shut up. I frankly would be more worried if I felt they'd moved from trying to intimidate me to actually surveilling me preparatory to disappearing me. Yo, Admiral Poindexter! What up, dawg? Welcome to Rigorous Intuition!

by **Animus Rex** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:38 am

Banned When my phone was tapped and my mail openned it was just like that- noisy, clumsy and obvious. As was the plain clothes officer sitting in a car in front of my house with a camera taking pictures of everyone coming and going. As was the plain clothes officer following me in his car when I walked to the bus stop- literally pacing me. As was when my boyfriends car was torched in front of my house. These were obvious attempts to intimidate so were relatively easy to deal with. Worse was being evicted because "someone from the government" visited my landlord at his home and threatened him with an audit unless I was evicted. Worse was the street-theatre interventions which targeted key individuals in the group I was involved with. None of us had experienced it before and so some of us bought it and as a result our group fell apart. For those who dont know street-theatre tactics this is what happened: The nominal leader of our action group had to go away for a few days. While he was away anouther member had a series of oddly threatening encounters- He was obviously/surruptitiously photographed by a suit at a cafe. He was told by anouther member that the guy who was away was a cop. That he had seen him in uniform somewhere or something. He heard noises at his backdoor and found a guy who was acting drunk fiddling with something there- he apparently claimed that he worked for the power company and staggered away to an unmarked van- not a convincing cover story. Later that night he found a pinhole in the ceiling of his living room with what he believed to be a glass lens/camera (he poked a straightened paperclip into it and heard it strike glass.) I had my bag lifted from the door of a public washroom stall while I was peeing. When I ran out after the perp my bag was in the middle of the floor and there was no one I could see who seemed likely to have done it- no one running away or hiding, no rubbies, druggies or teens around (I did look.) When the guy who was away came back he was completely ostracized, the group never recovered and our project was abandoned. Nothing I could say made a difference. These are descriptions of only the most mundane aspects of the "dragon." And I believe that you are right, one weakness is that they lie and decieve each other- anouther is their arrogance. I, of course still resist and there IS NO BLUE PILL HERE!

by **banned** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:28 am

What's scary is that so many people do not believe these things go on. Last summer I was at an anti-Schwarzenegger rally and there was a black helicopter that just hovered above us. There were also TV news choppers flying around, but this big black unmarked one sat there. I said to several people and clumps of people that that was probably Homeland Security and that they were undoubtedly taking photos of us to put in their facial recognition software and keep track of who shows up at what rally/protest. Furthermore, they WANTED to be seen in their big...black...unmarked chopper. A few older folks who like me lived through the Nixon era nodded in agreement, but many of the younger people seemed to think I was kidding. I wasn't trying to scare people but I think it's important that people are aware of what's going on. Now, this rally was overwhelmingly nurses, teachers and firefighters. Productive, upstanding citizens. It wasn't anarchists who had threatened to trash the scene. I don't have a problem with the Goobernator having security--but the cowardly bastard was hiding in the hotel, he wouldn't face the crowd. I have a problem with intimidation. In addition to the black copter virtually the place was crawling with cops--dozens of them. Again, sheer intimidation. What were they expecting? Grey haired teachers and paramedics to start a riot? The rally was literally 5 minutes from the police HQ. Had anything actually happened they would have been on the scene in nothing flat. Dozens of police standing in a line staring at protestors is menacing them. Of course what was funny was these were seriously fat suburban cops who spend more time shooing skateboarders off the sidewalk than fighting bad guys. A couple of sharpshooters could have taken out every last one of them before they knew what hit them--they had no riot gear and were standing in a line like ducks in a shooting gallery. My guess is had there been an 'incident' and it became necessary to protect Ah-nuld and get him out of there, the cops would have been of very little use; it would have been Keystone Kops time and the security people would have been the ones handling the situation. What I would like to see is people showing up for these rallies/protests with their cameras and camcorders and make it obvious that they are taking photos of the people watching them, and if the cops ask what they're doing, give back the cops' own answer: just documenting who's here doing what in case 'something' happens. In other words, 20 cops with 200+ camcorders trained on them are going to watch their step. Which is how it should be. The police exist to protect the citizenry--not to protect the government FROM the citizenry. These bastards are OUR EMPLOYEES. The cops are, so is Schickelgruber, I mean Schwarzenegger. It is to our everlasting shame that we have allowed ourselves to tolerate being spied on while exercising our Constitutional rights to freedom of assembly and expression. "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty—power is ever stealing from the many to the few…. The hand entrusted with power becomes … the necessary enemy of the people. Only by continual oversight can the democrat in office be prevented from hardening into a despot: only by unintermitted Agitation can a people be kept sufficiently awake to principle not to let liberty be smothered in material prosperity." ATTRIBUTION:WENDELL PHILLIPS, speech in Boston, Massachusetts, January 28, 1852.—Speeches Before the Massachusetts Anti-Slavery Society, p. 13 (1853).

by **jenz** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:08 am

they trashed my life, and more important, they trashed the lives of those I loved more than life. this is not done by dramatic visible scare tactic means. and its not done only to those who step knowingly in the way, exercising their democratic rights to peaceful protest or expression. its done if you just happen to be in the way. if, not intending, and even not knowing or understanding, you see something they did not want seen and spoken of. its done if they need your space, or your children for their freak parties. all kinds of modest mind their own business individuals can haplessly get in the way, you don't have to be in an important well paid job. cheaper than helicopters and cops even, are low life criminals, who will do it for next to nothing, a little crack cocaine etc and ra criminals who are self financing on the backs of the suffering of little ones and even pay their masters, in kind and cash. they can do this because they have seeded the law inforcement, justice, social security, health and social service orgs. and media with fellow freaks, heartless perverts with a penchant for other's pain. once they are in place, its a piece of cake to undermine, or kill anyone and get away with it. several things follow from this. the first is that if you read these pages you are probably more likely to be aware than I was at an early stage that something other than bad luck is dogging you. but it takes more courage to look at it when it is happening to someone else. not to find cosy reasons to blame the victim, and rationalise away what is happening. second, since children are your achilles heel, it follows that if you have them no amount of handy gadgets, devices or arms will make you invulnerable. so if you don't have them, and you care to have a world fit for others children to grow in, you have a special responsibility. responsibility not to ignore what is going on, see HHs idea of millstones. what are you going to do about the thousands of children who go missing, about those whom ra victims have seen killed and whom the authorites ignore, what are you going to do about the unbrought criminal cases against perpetrators. if the answer is nothing then there is no hope. I had lots more planned to say, but I guess you can get the picture.

by **jenz** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 7:39 am

attacks from ra criminals come via people who seem bona fide - ie those you would not suspect. many 'good' organisations have been planted with ra cells, and they have begun creating their own innocuous seeming cover orgs, additiionally seemingly ordinary people, whom you would be sure were above suspicion of any such criminal activity are in fact leading a double life. this is facilitated by their being given extraordinary means. it is the one tip i can pass on, keep antennae tuned if people seem to be having a smoother time of things, or be more capable or helpful than you, especially if there's money there should not be - even quite small amounts. watch out for being given the explanation or answer before the question is asked tactic. (realise this is double edged sword, could get paranoid about perfectly nice humans)

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