question: if you could move anywhere in the US... where/why

[havanagilla]

I don't think there is running away from the bad people by just moving, unless <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>one is wanted</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> somewhere. All the progressive place are also an attraction for the dark forces who prey on them. So, I would just choose a place according to the positives. Personally, I found SF and north of it (Napa area, Mendocino too, up to Mt. Shasta) very pleasant in terms of geography and people (if you manage not to run into Bohemian groves of sorts), russian valley (sebastopol etc.) etc. <br>--<br>another pleasant area was Charlottesville VA...and vicinity, again, in terms of geography and gradual trickling of normal people, far enough from DC (8 hrs by car) and <br>Langley:-)<br><br>--<br>Maryk's place sounds terrific too, if I had 1500$ now, I'd just fly over there to check it out. (except they have NASA facility pretty close :-)) and someone told me once that under Sedonna there is a huge town of bad aliens and he was willing to prove it (I waved).<br>--<br><br>Personally, I wouldn't stay in the USA if I had another choice (but surely I prefer it to Israel any day now). Yes, Latin America and Spain sound inviting to me too. and <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Australia</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> a life long dream of mine ! the best.<br><br>--<br>Someone suggested Sweden ????? maybe its safe from the CIA but what else is there? sounds like a dead end. <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=havanagilla>havanagilla</A> at: 4/12/06 5:07 am<br></i>

[friend catcher]

Anywhere James Redford considers bad sounds promising to me. <p></p><i></i>

[Tetsuro]

There's no where to run.<br>No where to hide.<br>If the shit goes down, grab yer ass and kiss it g'bye.<br>Seriously though, better off staying where you know the surroundings and are familiar with them somewhat.<br>Running off to a strange place because of some kind of national crisis would only intensify my personal chaos.<br>But are we trying too rigorously to intuit something here in the "innocent" question of "where would you move?"<br>I think perhaps.<br>no one here *really* cares where you want to move though,<br>Miami, Miami, you've got style!<br>blue sky <br>sunshine <br>white sand by the mile...<br>or perhaps Buffalo New York, <br>It's dirty charm is so quaint. <p></p><i></i>

[nashvillebrook]

portland is on my short list BECAUSE of the rain. i spent 15 years in upper east tennessee mountains and in grad school was going over rainfall data... our part of east tennessee had just as much rain as portland. the Smokies are called that because of the moisture in the air.<br><br>seems like the northwest offers a familiar and lovable climate with a whole lot more culture. not knocking my "new hillbilly" friends in east tennessee -- they'd agree it's kinda unfriendly up there. <br> <p></p><i></i>

[nashvillebrook]

i didn't get to spend enough time there on my trip. got stuck in Espanola, NM and had to haul ass to California. on the way back i stopped at the Grand Canyon. yep. it's a big hole in the ground. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>i've wondered what the lifestyle is like in and around the major cities. i'd love to live outside of a major city, but close enough to get work. i'm in marketing communications -- design and copywriting. Pheonix is viable for my field. i'm worried about how i'd manage without rain -- but if i lived near snow, i think i could manage. <p></p><i></i>

[nashvillebrook]

i think my biggest concern is being far away from big military installations. i grew up in Florida and when it came time to plan my move, FL was the obvious destination but i just can't bring myself to living that close to the military/industrial/adult entertainment complex. if you've lived in central florida, you know what i mean. <br><br>on my coast to coast foray, the single biggest vibe i got city-to-city, was the degree to which the places were militarized. san diego gave me the creeps for this reason. it would easy to get work there, but the culture is soul-killing to me.<br><br>if i could... i would live in Jackson Hole, Wyoming -- but i'd have to be independently wealthy. <p></p><i></i>

[nashvillebrook]

i waas sitting in a hot spring in Big Bend national park. there was a mexican national across the rio grande and a fellow camper sharing the spa with me. the mexican national was selling handmade walking sticks to tourists. he lived in a tent and his burrow had just died. he was feeding the meat to his dogs. <br><br>the guy in the natural spring was from Mendocino and "highly" recommended the area. i promised to make it up there, but a crisis hit by the time i made it to San Francisco, so i had to turn around. i was sooooo worn out from big CA cities, that i wasn't too upset about not making the rest of my trip. <br><br>other than pot -- what's the economy like up there? <p></p><i></i>

[PeterofLoneTree]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"Off hand, I'm thinking Montana."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>From Missoulian.com <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://tinyurl.com/ckodx">tinyurl.com/ckodx</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>"Report: Burns part of lobbyist probe"</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>HELENA - "The scope of a U.S. Justice Department investigation of indicted Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff is wider than previously believed and now includes his dealings with U.S. Sen. Conrad Burns, R-Mont., the Wall Street Journal reported Friday". <p></p><i></i>

[Connut]

And what about the rising oceans? Volcanic activity? Earthquakes? Mother Nature is going to get her own back. The west coast isn't too secure, Florida and the Gulf of Mexico are going to be inundated. So pick somewhere high, inland, not right on the water, and out of the tornado belt. Politicians come and politicians go, but Gaia goes on forever! Cheers, Connut <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

If a metropolitan area is necessary, you can't beat Minnesota with Minneapolis/St.Paul. The climate can be a booger, but heck, with global warming, it is getting almost tropical up there nowadays. Home of the independent-minded voters who kept electing Paul Wellstone; big, beautiful lakes all over the state as well as all over the metropolitan area; not all that far to the wilderness; attractive cities; home to several colleges with good reputations; diverse mix of commerce and industry; well-integrated racial diversity; great source of excellent healthcare choices, including but not limited to Mayo Clinics............ <p></p><i></i>

[heyjt]

I agree about Portland, I grew up there and it is the most progressive and "Green" city I have seen. <br> But it's a city, a bad place to count on for survival in bad times. Too much dependence on city water, authority figures, conflicts with neighbors, etc.<br> I am on a small island off the coast of Washington State on the Canadian border. Good well water, soil, timber,fish and game.<br> And now finally, DSL.<br>Some things cost more to get here, gas is about $3.17 a gallon, more than Honolulu. That's ok with me, it's ten minutes to anywhere up here. If I have to I can bike or ride a horse.<br> There is a renaissance of farming going on up here, I sense a true "back to the land" movement... <p></p><i></i>

[nashvillebrook]

my stretch of ocean in florida is the space coast -- cape canaveral to vero. grew up there. it breaks my heart going back and seeing the coastal mess. the "erosion" (as they call it) is a misnomer. it's not that the dunes are eroded, it's that the ocean threatens the dunes like it never did before (in 3 generations of family). <br><br>in terms of re-claiming environmentally damaged habitat, the space coast offers a glimpse of hope... the indian and banana 'rivers' were nearly 'lost' to pollution in the late 60s-early 70s -- after the area's last boom. it's healthy and supporting some of the best fishing anywhere now. if you're into that sort of thing, there's an area in north brevard around merrit island that is spectacular. <br><br>so i totally agree with connut on the global warming thing. now is not the time to 'dig in' on the coast. mother nature is pissed. <p></p><i></i>

[nashvillebrook]

and Wisconson too. Madison? anyone know about life there? <br><br>how bad is winter? which is worse, minnesota or maine? <p></p><i></i>

[mxmendo]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"the guy in the natural spring was from Mendocino and "highly" recommended the area. i promised to make it up there, but a crisis hit by the time i made it to San Francisco, so i had to turn around. i was sooooo worn out from big CA cities, that i wasn't too upset about not making the rest of my trip. <br><br>other than pot -- what's the economy like up there? "</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>As a lifetime resident of Cali and 8 yr resident in Mendocino County maybe i can shed some light. The economy is now mainly agriculture and ranching. Vineyards, most very high end, are steadily overtaking the old ag products like walnuts and pears. The timber and fishing industries are far weaker than in previous decades, with the latter really struggling. The various Indian tribes have started to get into casinos, that add to the relatively healthy tourist industry. Pot is the #1 cash source by far. Everyone agrees that outright legalization in the state would be a disaster; regardless of what the hippie/libertarian types say, the northern cali economy would be severely impacted if that occurred. It is literally one of the few options for otherwise perfectly regular people to start a legit business, buy a new car or send their kids to college. The local authorities, led by a very progressive sheriff, have basically allowed folks to grow a sensible amount on their own property with no fear of cop harassment, around twenty plants or so. It is common in the late summer/fall to walk around the various towns and rural residential areas and be overwhelmed by the smell coming from backyards etc. This has cut the local price by roughly half but does little to discourage illegal sales, as this doesn’t really affect the price in, say, Chicago. <br><br>Besides the regular economy (which pot is basically now a part of), there is more and more work going towards addressing the whole peak oil issue, with sustainable community development and locally grown/organic food. Willits is really taking the lead in this and has gained attention from other likeminded communities around the nation.<br><br>Cost of living is high (no pun intended), with the suburbs of the bay area slowly extending north in to Sonoma and now far southern Mendo. It has rained every day but three or four for the past 1.5 months.<br><br>mx<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

I was only a little tongue-in-cheek about the global warming. It has been ten years since Minnesota had a severe winter. Keep in mind, no matter where you go, that significant changes in tempreatures over extended periods of time could possibly result in drastic changes in precip. Many cities, such as some in California, are already having trouble providing enough water for their growing populations. My own preference would be to look to areas that now have an abundance of water, such as lakes, extensive river systems, or areas sitting on good aquifers. Of course, it will be hard to predict what the changes will be, but I would count water resources as being much more significant than tornadoes. (That's what basements are for, no big deal to those in the tornado belt.) Also, don't assume that any part of the country is safe from earthquakes, because they happen all over, as you can see here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/recenteqs/">folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/recenteqs/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 4/12/06 11:14 am<br></i>