"theresistancemanifesto.com": what's up with that?

[Rigorous Intuition]

Someone posted a reference on the blog to the "Georgia Guidestones," which I'd never heard of. I did a little Googling and discovered some want them destroyed, which led me to this:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.theresistancemanifesto.com/">www.theresistancemanifesto.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I think it's a rather disturbing incitement to violence. Particularly disturbing because it takes up a number of issues familiar to us, like the Gosch case, elite paedophilia and mind control. (And an extremely creepy video, "Message to Michael Aquino.")<br><br>I'm wondering what people make of it. Does this guy strike you as genuine (if so, it's a foolish invitation to Gitmo) or a provocateur?<br><br>Regardless, it's ugly and reactionary, and seems an invitation to call dissidents domestic terrorists. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=rigorousintuition>Rigorous Intuition</A> at: 4/22/05 1:45 pm<br></i>

[hanshan]

<br><br>Hey, Jeff - welcome to the <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Christian fundamentalist<br>mindset</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->.Same as the minutemen, etc.<br><br> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Does this guy strike you as genuine (if so, it's a foolish invitation to Gitmo) or a provocateur?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br>Genuine & a provocateur. Christian vigilante posse's;<br>the return of Cotton Mather...<br><br><br>...<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Regardless, it's ugly and reactionary, and seems an invitation to call dissidents domestic terrorists.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br>Bush has already made the equation: dissension = terrorism. This guy is just following the lead.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[glubglubglub]

whois info:<br><br>The Resistance for Christ<br>John Connor<br>2535 Christian blvd.<br>City, CA 90210<br>US<br>411-555-1212<br>shoul001@csusm.edu<br><br>All of which (aside from the email) appears fake (or at least incorrect).<br>Created: Dec 17 2004<br>Expires: Dec 17 2005<br><br>Tracerouting the site leads to aplusservers.com out of australia; aplusservers.com has this whois:<br><br>RegistrantContact Details <br>Name Javad Afsharpayam<br>Company A+ Servers Ltd<br>Email Address javad@gmx.net<br>Address p.o.box 16305 <br>City Doubai<br>State <br>Zip AE<br>Country AE<br>Tel No. +097.507145476 <br><br>(all other personnel the same name/info)<br><br>gmx.net routes to <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.gmx.net/de/">www.gmx.net/de/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> which looks like a germany-based yahoo/msn type of site offering free webmail; probably good for quasi-anonymous email, although the nam matching the email means it's probably not a total fake. The domain was registered here:<br><br>Registration Service Provided By: KAROON.NET<br>Contact: sales@karoon.net<br>Website: www.karoon.net<br>Abuse Desk Email Address: sales@karoon.net<br><br>Who are based out of houston. <br><br>The email address is legit: it belongs to a Mark Shouldice, a student at California State University, San Marcos. There used to be a Mark Shouldice @ <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.advancedmemoryconcepts.com/">www.advancedmemoryconcepts.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> who appeared touting this stuff to the Laura Lee show:<br><br>The Laura Lee Show for August 28, 1999 08/28/99 Guests include Anthony Barnett on the government origins of Mad Cow Disease,<br>Von Del Chamberlain on "Ancient American Indian Astronomer," Phil Leonard on "ArcheoAstronomy," and Mark Shouldice on "Improving Your Memory." Maybe the same guy? He'd be a bit old to be a regular college student but I think CSU SM is pretty big on the non-trads (ie, older bachelors' students) so it's not out of the question. <br><br>Not sure how important the hosting info actually is or how relevant the whois and traceroute info is, either, but it's at least worth mentioning.<br><br>Can't tell if it's disinfo/provacateur or not, yet; from their forums:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://theresistancemanifesto.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=41">theresistancemanifesto.co...topic&t=41</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I spoke with Ted Gunderson of the FBI today, and interviewed him about Satanism in America. Ted is the retired Senior Special Agent in Charge of Los Angeles. Gunderson has been following the Johny Gosh kidnapping, and is one of the primary players in exposing Satanic, child predators. He and former Senator John Decamp of Nebraska have uncovered crimes, i don't even want to write about, they are so sick. I quote both Gunderson and Decamp in The Resistance Manifesto, in the chapters on Bohemian Grove and Satanism. You do know that Gunderson and Decamp have uncovered alligations of ritual child abuse and murder in the Bohemain Grove, right? It's all in the manifesto. Quoting Ted is one thing. Actually talking to him was totally different. i'm kind of freaked out right now. he told me his phone was tapped, and that the FBI knew who i was. (like they didn't allready lol) Anyway, just letting everyone know, Ted is on our side. Power to The Resistance!<br><br>I interviewed Rusty Nelson of the Franklin Cover Up fame, and he told me first hand about Lary King's pedaphilia and our conversation made me sick. I prayed with Rusty on the phone, and thanked him for getting his story out. Everyone should listen to his interview with Michael Corbin on 4acloserlook. Go to www.JohnnyGosch.com to stream the interview with him, and to stream an interview with Noreen Gosch.<br><br>Some of the early forum joiners are old hands at godlikeproductions; a most confusing mix all around. <p></p><i></i>

[bindare]

The site is professionally designed and maintained --- there is time and effort behind it. But I think John Conner is a character from a game, here is what XBOX had to say:<br><br>[em]"If you've seen the Terminator movies, then you know the premiss of it. A berserk program called Skynet had started a war between the humans and the machines. Far in the future, the world is a wreck. A barren wasteland of death. The humans had been fighting a losing war with the cybernetic minions of Skynet for decades. Then, one of the resistance soldiers, Kyle Reese, has gone back in time to make sure that the mother of John Conner, leader of the resistance, is not killed. Why is he worried that Sarah Conner (John Conner's mother) might be killed in the past? A nearly un-stoppable cyborg assassin called the Terminator (played by Arnold "Govonator" Schwarzenegger) has gone back in time to eliminate Sarah Conner to prevent the birth of John Conner, which means stopping the resistance from starting. And there begins the Terminator movie. However, Terminator: Dawn of Fate does not cover what happens in the movies, but rather it is a prequel for the first Terminator movie, showing the events that happened in the future before Kyle went back in time.[/em]<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.xboxreloaded.com/review61.html">www.xboxreloaded.com/review61.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[hanshan]

..<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>fascinatingly layered</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br>.amused.<br><br>.. <p></p><i></i>

[Jerky]

...and some fairly underground, leftish conspiracy rhetoric, presented with a militant edge and a fairly heaping portion of implied violence.<br><br>I'd almost think it was government disinfo designed to make (ahem) "some of us" look bad enough to need cracking down on, but the Christian element gives me pause.<br><br>Kid might be sincere. <p></p><i></i>

[jpuma]

The only reason I don't think it's some kind of AGN-type game is that it's crazy homophobic and features lots of pro-Bible stuff. I don't think even Microsoft would risk dipping their toes in that water. Well, not so blatantly, anyhow.<br><br>More likely the guy's just a Terminator fan who decided it'd be a good story-system to grab for his personal crusade.<br><br>Man, I really hate having guns being waved around & pointed at me, even on some crank's homepage. <p></p><i></i>

[tabasco1776]

For someone to name themselves after a fictional hero is <br>not uncommon. I mean, just look at how many "Keyser <br>Soze"s, "John Winston"s and "Snake Plisskin"s are there are<br> out there on the net.<br><br>As someone in the heart of the Bible Belt south, I can tell <br>you that there are<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em> plenty</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> of people around here who <br>are hip to the cutting edge of conspiracy theory, but still <br>retain their basic gun-happy, militia-esque, rural Christian <br>values. I don't see the website as being "disinfo", <br>particularly. There are a lot of people who fit the niche that <br>the site serves. <br><br>I think they're pretty young and naive, though, and probably<br> harmless. I mean, how can anyone be aware of some of <br>the things they're aware of, and still waste so much time<br>and effort griping about some granite monument in the <br>middle of nowhere?<br><br>The Google satellite map of the monument is here:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?li=rwp&q=2825+HARTWELL+HWY,+ELBERTON,+GA+30635">maps.google.com/maps?li=r...,+GA+30635</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>...but the resolution is so poor you can't really discern which<br>white dot is it. <p></p><i></i>

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

This site is either a great small business for a creative guy selling conspiracy theories to right wing Christians (most likely) - or, it's a honey pot designed to get info on and organize "radical" paranoid Christians.<br><br>After listening to his anti-gay speech, it's very, very obvious this site is NOT based in any typical right wing Christian churches or organizations - the rhetoric was all wrong - it's not authentic.<br><br>Very entertaining site though.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

The anti-gay stuff - without anti-abortion rhetoric - is a sure sign it's not actually connected to any Christian organizations. So it's not Christian fundamentalism in the traditional sense. I think it's just a site basically just like this one - but with a more populist, paleoconservative-style audience.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[sparkinthedark]

Sounds like basic skin head stuff to me. The look, the language- straight from northern Idaho. Anybody who is that sure they have the answers scare me to death. I bet if you dug a little deeper you would find white Christians Americans are the only ones allowed to live in their perfect world. <p></p><i></i>

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

I spent the last few hours checking this site out - it's not skinhead/Aryan Nations stuff either, at least, I didn't see anything indicative of that. In fact, it seemed like the only thing "right wing" about it at all was the anti-gay and anti-porn stuff. There was nothing I saw that was racialist in any way. The anti-gay slant came across more as a fratboy "fags are gross" kind of thing.<br><br>I also noticed NOTHING pro-capitalist or pro-libertopian either. He called Mormons a "Satanic cult" but he said some nice things about Catholics and the Pope - so again, this is not KKK or Christian identity. He also went after Walmart <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>I think the guy's just trying to get a radio show frankly. Aside from the anti-gay stuff, there was not much there I disagreed with. I am probably very close to his target audience.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

Another intereseting thing about the site - about a third of what's posted there is in French! I suppose this could be a Louisiana or Quebec connection, but it was surprising to see that.<br> <p></p><i></i>