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call it a pragmatic thought experiment, but i'm wondering, if you had the opportunity to move anywhere in the US, where would you go? west coast? south? midwest? it has to be in the US. what's your opinion of the most Rigorously Livable area? <p></p><i></i>

The state of Maine is surrounded on three sides by Canada.<br><br>And, the 2004 Green Party candidate for Vice-President, Pat LaMarche, is running for governor this year. She previously ran for governor in 1998.<br><br>And, Maine has the highest elected Green Party member of any state in the country: John Eder, Maine State Representative for House Dist 118. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=peteroflonetree@rigorousintuition>PeterofLoneTree</A> at: 4/11/06 7:51 pm<br></i>

i love the northeast, but i hate the idea of living in a big city. i have friends and family in maine, and it's like a different country, for sure. <br><br>this question is more than a thought experiment for me. making some changes and taking a totally new direction. lived in tennessee and florida all my life. need to go somewhere new. took a drive thru the southwest (padre island to san francisco). liked colorado, new mexico and arizona. i was camping, so that's why i took a route thru southern states. i hate that i didn't get to see oregon and washington. <p></p><i></i>

I live in Minneasota, if my nightmares ever started comming true I would slip accross the border to Canada. <br><br>Spain is looking good too these days. Spannish seems to be a must learn language anyway. <p></p><i></i>

If we're talking the contiguous forty-eight states, I would choose Maine. Otherwise, it's Hawaii or Alaska. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

I would not live anywhere in the United States...I will not even put my big toe across till Bush leaves office.<br><br>Right now I live in Canada but am not pleased with its proximity to the United States.<br><br>I will move to Sweden if the US attacks Canada....some people think Canada is a refuge from the States...it is not...it is extremely vulnerable to a take over for land and/or resources...the US is escalating its disputes over our once universally accepted borders...the UK, obviously, will not be any help because the US has already destroyed that country's [once our mentor and protector] sovereignty.<br><br>I would like to live in South America, say Venezuela or Peru or Brazil or Argentina...as far away from the US and in as desolate a place as possible....if I could.<br><br>Rwg<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

Rwg?<br><br>I don't know what I was trying to say there.<br><br>GC <p></p><i></i>

I like it best right where I am!<br><br>Despite the fact that Arizona is run by "nearly-deads," I find this an eminently liveable place. Here I'm in a town right on a river, where I have many choices for schooling my kids and myself, and in less than two minutes on horseback I'm on a trail by the water. There is a pair of black hawks (the bird, not the chopper) nesting nearby, otter and beaver, the effect written about by Viktor Schauberger of creativity stimulated by being on the outer edge of running water... lots of art and music for such a small town. Even the police are friendly. Lots of political and metaphysical awareness (proximity to Sedona responsible for the latter, without the outrageous expense.) <br><br>Cottonwood, AZ. Elevation 3300'. Winter was mild (although in 1967 there was a 40" snowfall and roofs were collapsing) and yes, there will be 100 degree days in the summer, but it's not like the Sonora Desert. And the mountains are also minutes away, by road. MaryK <p></p><i></i>

I wouldn't move....i'd stay right here in Portland, OR.<br><br>thriving music scene, thriving art scene, thriving film scene, progressive and open-minded people, beautiful weather (rain isn't so bad--only 4 months out of the year), mountains within an hour's drive, ocean within an hour's drive, camping and fishing everywhere, only 5 hours from Canadian border.<br><br>and of course, Powell's Bookstore. <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>The state of Maine is surrounded on three sides by Canada.<br><br>And, the 2004 Green Party candidate for Vice-President, Pat LaMarche, is running for governor this year. She previously ran for governor in 1998.<br><br>And, Maine has the highest elected Green Party member of any state in the country: John Eder, Maine State Representative for House Dist 118.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Oh, wonderful. The Green Party. In other words, socialists, i.e., a tool of the globalist elite. That is to say, a completely owned subsidiary of the globalists.<br><br>Yes, as if the Commie George Bush, Jr. isn't bad enough, let's run towards a group of peope who are openly antithetical to liberty. And while we're at it, let us beat ourselves over our heads with hammers. That will surely do us a lot of good. <p>-------<br><br>"Documentation on Government-Staged Terrorism," September 30, 2005:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2&mforum=libertyandtruth">www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2&mforum=libertyandtruth</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>"Jesus Is an Anarchist," James Redford, revised and expanded edition, November 9, 2005 (originally published on December 19, 2001):<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/vonchloride/anarchist-jesus.pdf">www.geocities.com/vonchloride/anarchist-jesus.pdf</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>call it a pragmatic thought experiment, but i'm wondering, if you had the opportunity to move anywhere in the US, where would you go? west coast? south? midwest? it has to be in the US. what's your opinion of the most Rigorously Livable area?<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Well, to give a real answer to your question--as opposed to some socialist numskulls on this forum, who wouldn't know liberty if their lives depended upon it (of which, in fact, it does): if what your question is getting at is being unmolested by government, then you would be best served by seeking out the most libertarian of states. Off hand, I'm thinking Montana. Although the Free State Project is in New Hampshire. <p>-------<br><br>"Documentation on Government-Staged Terrorism," September 30, 2005:<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2&mforum=libertyandtruth">www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2&mforum=libertyandtruth</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>"Jesus Is an Anarchist," James Redford, revised and expanded edition, November 9, 2005 (originally published on December 19, 2001):<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/vonchloride/anarchist-jesus.pdf">www.geocities.com/vonchloride/anarchist-jesus.pdf</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Well, to give a real answer to your question--as opposed to some <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>socialist numskulls</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> on this forum, who wouldn't know liberty if their lives depended upon it (of which, in fact, it does): if what your question is getting at is being unmolested by government, then you would be best served by seeking out the most libertarian of states. Off hand, I'm thinking Montana. Although the Free State Project is in New Hampshire.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Num(b)skulls? Look who's making sweeping generalizations regarding people's intelligence: It's the I.Q. master, himself! <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i></i>

Mendocino county California, because you can pretty much grow some killer pot there.<br><br>I'm thinking of inviting James Redford!<br><br>Seriously though, its a progressive place for the most part and it has alot of redwoods and maybe one of the best stretches of coastline anywhere. <p></p><i></i>

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Mendocino county California, because you can pretty much grow some killer pot there.<br><br>I'm thinking of inviting James Redford!<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Something tells me no amount of cannabis would make that guy pleasant to be around. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 4/12/06 1:01 am<br></i>

if there had been no marx's and engels, no socialism,<br>there would not have been unions,and workers rights,<br>we would not have had feminism or the civil rights movement,<br>we would still be pawns of the aristocrats and the priests that our most famous socialist, Jesus, warned us about.<br><br>Socialism and Islam are the religions of the oppressed, they are religions that preach equality, this is the very anti-thesis of the globalists as you call them.<br>It is why these oligarchs fear these religions?<br>As a libertarian you should know you share a great deal of the basic principles that those on the "extreme" left do?<br><br>I am convinced that if you removed some of the false labels that the taliban style indoctrination in the USA feeds you with since birth we would even be speaking the same language..<br><br>if someone acts like a fascist, speaks the language of fascists and associates with fascists we call them a fascist?<br>Bush is a fascist... <p></p><i></i>