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[OP ED]

Z:

re: passports: where would you go anyway? i figure when the Late American Republican period ends they'll probably annex all the nice places anyhow.


And yes, the prose is mine.
I do not actually remember writing it, but it is all in my journal in my handwriting so i suppose i must have.

(the quote from Isaiah was part of it, but wasn't mine, of course, just one i memorized in christian school. it seems to have set the tone for that day)

I had, earlier on the Girls/Birds thread said that i did not own any pictures of mine that had both girls and birds in them. Which of course implied that if i had i would have posted it. Earlier this week, i ran into this girl at my comic book store. (everyone knows her, she's one of like four girls who go to the place) in the course of the ensuing conversation i was reminded of the "trip" itself and i remembered my journal entry. the reason i didn't find it when i scanned them before looking for girls/birds was that i didn't check all my journals. (i didn't check the "magical diaries") when i found it, i just had to post it. the associated text made it even more appropriate as it reminded me of conversations i've had here in the years since i drew it. actually sort of eerie in and of itself.

the text appears as i wrote it, without any editing or rearranging, which i think it needs. it was never intended to be read by anyone but me. things i create for public consumption are more polished and usually less revealing of me. my journal entry represent the raw sputtering of my brain. in this particular case it was perhaps extra strange as it only vaguely reminds me of my own style. (drugs?) just sort of spilled out.

i figured everyone here was nice enough to at least not make fun of me for it.


the trip was fairly simple. we left town to go to [redacted] for a week. At some point there was, in addition to absinthe, large scale consumption of [redacted] i would guess for [redacted] purposes.

The only lights in the room were red, and had been brought with us by myself. Moving lights and lasers, good for trips. She lay in a red chair, seemingly as fascinated with the layers of her hair as i was. (i didn't draw her face cause i couldn't see it, her hair was on top) the birds came and turned the borders between the shadows and the redlights into the world. they are a recurring element of my trips. black birds of all sizes. sometimes they talk to me.

she was wearing a shiny black dress (mostly) that caught and reflected the little red beams of light back at their sources.

i always know the drugs are working when i have to wade through water to get to the bed.

my memories of it become less coherent shortly thereafter. the writing in the journal appears as one constant stream of letters, hard even for me to read. there appears to have been more to it, near the break in the middle, but i couldn't make out the abbreviations i left. maybe someday.

hope that helps.

[Penguin]

One of my favourite Star Trek TNG episodes is the one where Commander Data dreams for the first time...Of a raven, anvil, his father..I had goosebumps watching that.

My dream companion animals are usually squirrels and horses. A few times a dog. A horse that talks, weve sometimes discussed philosophy in a winter garden, once I freed the young one from a cruel man.

Once I dreamed of a dead squirrel lying in midst of weeds - the next day I was on a long walk, saw young kids looking at something by roadside, then move on...I go see, and there it is, my dream - a dead squirrel lying in the midst of weeds. I have a strong feeling, portent, and know this was my dream. I had never seen a dead squirrel before.

[OP ED]

squirrels are tasty.

[Penguin]

You shouldnt say such things around me, OP. Ive been known to employ empirical methods in suggesting dietary choices...

I might feed your nuts to em...

[zhivkov]

Thanks for your thoughts OE and Penguin-that is very interesting-the theme of your trips-h2o all the time-animals dont appear very often in my dreams-lately i have had dreams with the recurrring theme of-i dont know this place-this isnt my home-i am trapped-i will never get out of here-some have been scary-but just a couple terrifying
the last time it happened i was just walking in a neighborhood i had never been to before-it was early eve and i remember thinking-this is a different timeline i will never know anyone here or get back to my home

I get from your thoughts OE that you think the American Empire is here to stay-interesting-looking at the situation the last few years it seems to me that the US is being intentionally destroyed-i guess maybe we could be in the midst of being destroyed in one way and built up in another-a whole new system put in place-maybe the first will be a different financial system globally-then a new order world wide-i have given up guessing who the winners and losers will be all of the major contenders and blocs of contenders have huge achilles heels
i just hope that something will happen to cause society to completely break down before we are living in a brazil/1984/NIN type of future dystopia-i think this is preferrable-even tho it would also be horrifying-than living in the type of world of ultra high tech-but no free thinking and liberty of any kind-we are getting there pretty fast already
best to all of you-z
i will try to make this my only edit-i want to 'trip' so badly-dont know if it would be a good idea as ive never taken that type of plunge before-tried with salvia twice-but didnt follow thru the third time should have just done it

[OP ED]

Penguin:

*channelling 4thBase*

Them squirrels ain't nearly big enough.

(it's all about how you cook them, btw)

fuckin' herbivores.



Comrade Z:

yes, i almost always trip water. and ravens. they tell me things.

(in my dreams i have deer instead, although the birds show up there sometimes too, no water dreams i can remember)

The American Empire hasn't even started yet.
(it'll take a bit more destabilization to even set the stage properly)

they ain't gonna trade their biggest stick in anytime soon.

i wish they'd get on with it, personally, some of us have plans for afterward.

[zhivkov]

OE-I would love to know what their biggest stick is-any clues-thoughts?
Would love to hear about plans-even in code.
I have not been paying near the amount of attention I usually pay to the news,but I wonder if Pakistan/India are the next pieces to be moved around on the grand chessboard.
I wonder whose side China is on-if they are on any side at all.
What will be the fate of Russia I wonder?
I wonder if in the states we are to have a very small percentage of people who will own about everything-most others being brought down fo feudal status.
I wonder if there will ever be a revolt here-or is control too tight already and the population to dumbed down.
I wonder what the GRAND plan in the end is-if there is an overall plan at all.
I wonder how many factions are fighting for control over everything and I also wonder if some factions that appear to be fighting are really working hand in hand and vice -versa.
Just some early morning ramblings from Z-I really do think of these things though. Peace and be well OE and all of you!

I swear I will never be able to get down all thoughts in one post at a time-totally agree about more destablization to set the stage. I wonder if the globe is about to undergo a huge trauma-akin to a NDE for humanity-and then some power structure will arise with all the answers.
What role does Obama play in all of this-is he simply another stooge?-Or is he being set up to have a major part in the coming attractions?

[OP ED]

Z:

re: sticks:
(same one as before, you're living in it)
The Dollar may be weak, but the Tomahawk cruise missle is still in high demand.

[note how war profits are up]

re: India/Pakistan:
Always. they're at the center of the chessboard.

re: China:

China is on China's side. By which i mean that whomever is in charge at any given point represents their own interests which are similar if seperate from their western equivalents.

re: Russia's fate:

Russia's fate will likely be decided by the Russians. It usually is. And there really isn't any way to predict what they'll do. Russia seems equally divided between attempts to maintain its seperateness and trying to suck up to the other alpha dogs.

re: feudalism.

that already happened.

re: revolting U.S.A. :: ::

certainly. i'd say later rather than sooner though.
The worse the better.

re: Grand Plans:

There are none. Maintenance of status quo and increasing ease of maintenance are the only long term goals. Creating any sort of permanently stable society, even an Orwellian hell would be bad for the big boys because it'd dampen their profit margins.

re: factions:

millions of them. of which several hundred are probably very important.

most political factions will pursue mutual goals with seeming adversaries. This has always been true.

re: next eight years:

The nineties, part II. Diet Imperialism. Same losses of life and liberty, but without all the Bushy Nyaa Nyaa in-your-face-peasants-ness.

re: post-wedding-plans:

same as any good after-party.
(drinking and carousing and fireworks)


...

Love is the Law,
SHCR

p.s. we're winning, you should know. we always win. the nature of water is to equilibrium. there will be no stopping it, either. in a thousand years people will find it hard to believe we didn't all see it coming.

[zhivkov]

OE-once again thanks for your thoughts on these matters-I want so badly to believe we are winning-but I must confess-as relates to my earlier excitement-I am feeling like we are losing again. I may be back tonight and am thinking very stream of consciousness-more so than usual-there is never any rush to answer any of my ?s-I just appreciate you being who you are:
Your thoughts on China are the same as my bros-I tend to think this too-although I have found many references in the web that China is playing more on 'our' (capitalist-imperialist states agenda)
off topic-there is a bloc of conspiracists on the web who think that Russia's seeming rejection of communism was planned and that this is part of the biggest operation trojan horse in history-i dont know what to make of this-most of these views are coming from right wing ayn rand types
I was thinking that there were perhaps factions in the tens maybe hundreds-but miilions-not questioning you -it just seems that so few decide the fate of so many
I will take your Grand Plans thinking as it is- you know a lot more about this type of thing than i do-and when i guess-i guess wrong
I also respect your thinking on nineties part two-you have a very fine way with words 'diet imperialism' good one
Do you think India/Pak are going to be an explosion point very soon or do you think this will die down like Russia/Ossetia?
In regards to the Tomahawk remark-I was wondering if your thinking is that the US has far more sophisticated weapons(some secret) than other nations-Jeff did a wonderful set of posts-cant think of the names know-but it had refernces to zero point energy and the like in them-maybe the US is not showing all of its cards?
Do you think the US will ever have a true left wing-not communist-but not democratic party type republican lite-movement again?

sorry i misread your words earlier about factions-you clearly stated that only hundreds were very important.
do you think there is any truth-even the smallest bit to the 2012 hypothesis? i used to think all of it was horse manure-until i heard about the shuman resonance speeding up-still don't know what to believe-tend to not believe
I am so glad you think we will win at some point-it gives me hope.
thanks again for always sharing your thoughts/images here-I hope you are doing well and at peace
O-just one more thing-do you think my thinking of the US as a modern version of Rome has any validity?
sorry OE-you knew there would be at least one edit! Are you as disappointed as I am in Gates/Clinton for Obama-did you expect something like this-i am really disappointed-as you know i respect all points of view and it will be so nice not to see 43s -like you said-'in your face' mug on tv-but i feel let down after being briefly excited-when am i going to learn to be such a stupid believer in impossible dreams-at 43 you would think i would have learned by now-peace and be well!-Z

[OP ED]

i never mind questions, comrade. although it should be understood that i only ever offer my opinion as if it is fact (i chose my board name deliberately) but this does not always make it so. You are the decider. Ha.

The Chinese rulers, with exceptions of course, seem to have a tendency to take a longer view of things. They'll play whatever games they have to in order to consolidate their position and ensure their continued world influence, as they rightly should, i might add. There are also, of course, largely international corporate blocs of power that play games in, around, and between the various national power blocs.

(although ultimately it is the humans with guns that are in charge of their immediate surroundings. the chinese ability to face this reality squarely has likely contributed to their relative autonomy from the sort of people who get called things like "NWO" around here)

(i like the chinese, i have high hopes for them)

Russia never had communism to begin with. All they had was a different brand of serfdom. I consider personally that the primary failing of communism historically is that it hasn't ever existed.
(except maybe in the Book of the Acts of the Apostles, but even then it relied on Roman proto-capitalism to function with growth)

re: Grand Plans

I'm sure lots of people have plans, but i've yet to see strong evidence that any one group of these people have the absolute power required to completely steer human destiny. Life doesn't work like that. History is largely the story of these assholes being killed off and replaced with other assholes. No Continuum. No clear directional advances except over the lifetimes of specific powerful individuals. So, unfortunately, probably no evil Jellyfish overlords. Unless they're really incompetent, at which point there's no need worrying about them.

India and Pakistan will probably not die down. However, they've been not dying down for some time now. It is only the most recent aberration in the scale of violence that has increased the amount of attention non-brown people are paying to that region's politics. Both places have largely been abused hellholes for at least the last thousand years. Location, location, location. As far as the future goes, i tend to doubt anything will blow up in India, as it brings too many power brokers into a conflict that none of them desire. Pakistan, on the other hand, could get invaded by the Anglophiles at any moment. We've been keeping it around just in case we needed a good country to invade.
(also funding the tension there to keep a pretext ready)

Frankly, America doesn't really need much more sophisticated weapons than what is public knowledge, although you can be certain they do have those things. (i would i if i was them)
Psychotronics and weather manipulation alone make most first world arsenals near obsolete. and that was a decade ago.

I would suggest that not only does the U.S. not show its hand very often, but that there are few (if any) members of the convoluted power structures stateside that are fully aware of what cards are available.

(if you thought we actually intended to stablilize the middle east with our forces and that we are therefore "losing" i would suggest that you may be incorrect, wars are worth lots of money and peace represents the drop of profits, therefore victory is undesirable unless needed for propogandic purposes, which it isn't, as the right wing elements here are pushing the apocalypse on its constituency, as an idea, a constant fear, that is)

(they wouldn't know an actual apocalypse if it bit them in the heel)

speaking of which;

re: 2012
depends. which version?
alien invasion? be the best thing ever happened to us. esp. if they WERE the mayan space aliens. Guys were vulnerable to rocks. And their Plan is (seriously) to start their invasion in probably the most populated city on earth, a place where AK47s are free to tourists (at a time when tourists are at a record peaks, lucky i already have a hotel).

cosmic consciousness? sure. awesome. these things usually take awhile to catch on though.

I figure the Yucatan will become the larget rave ever and that the Global Consciousness thingee will go Crazy. and probably nothing else will happen on D Day.

i'm going anyhow though. just in case. if not, it'll still be a cool party.
(if there are evil space aliens, i totally owe them some)

re: Rome.

the comparison to rome was the meaning of my use of "Late American Republican Period". We do have imperialist tendencies, horribly vulnerable electoral policies, and a huge landmass filled with arrogant people. We're not there yet though. At present at least, it is almost sort of insulting to Rome, because they had style, stolen no doubt, but big and loud and untouchable.

our "leaders" and their principals show distinct pettiness that would've been distasteful to the more frightening Romans. the romans wished to rule the world and have their names carved in stone. our equivalents settle for imaginary wealth and transitory power squandered on tablescraps of dirt and "resources". we're silly bastards largely. and we don't have the style. none of the (diet romans) imitators have. (though Napoleon tried really really hard, he was slightly too french to pull it off)
[the hats didn't help]
the pettiness comes through in everything. the powerful romans, even the dictators (though not the latter day emporers certainly) didn't hoard wealth as misers or hide in their castles. they wished to be remembered, not merely rich while living. they built public spaces. (one of Gaius Iulius Caesar's i've pictured previously)
no style. some substance.

you never plan for imperiums though. Empires are something that happens when the Republic breaks. It isn't that it usually takes over total control in some Orwellian fashion. More often it tries, get broken by its people, and the Imperium results from the chaos. It usually isn't a goal of the "representatives" to make this happen. quite the opposite. the ones in charge of our representation will try to keep us from actual total consolidation of power as it puts too many powerful people too far away from strings.

it'd be great though, if we ever got the style.

Gates/Clinton
Smart move for Obama. Ensures his survival.

(guy ain't no saint, but he ain't fucking george bush either)

as for my reasons for my optimism despite the gathering darkness?
maybe later. its much too intrinsic to my core to expound before i sleep again.

(impossible dreams are the only sort worth having)

Love is the Law,
SHCR

[nathan28]

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[nathan28]

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[zhivkov]

Thanks again for your thoughts on these matters OE -and thanks for the pics nathan!-Is the auto a Duesenberg-hey still searching for that pic you mentioned long ago-haven't forgot. I stole the double headed eagle images-hope you don't mind-I don't have much tonight-runnin on empty so to speak-but I am definitely going to come back (of course-i am always on this thread-hehe)-but back to the part you answered some of my queries
I have to agree smart move by Mr O as far as life saving maneuvers go-hehe -at one point i thought of emailing Bill Richardson after he supported Obama over Hil and was going to tell him to leave the states or lay very low for awhile-Bill C was pissed-and you barely want to piss off a clinton any more than you do a bush.
Of course there has never been 'true communism' as it was intended to be-but I think for a very brief-extremely brief in the overview of world history-the soviets had a 'bright' period in the Khruschev years -early sixties to mid-when things were looking much better-some even thought the experiement just might work-this would have been the era Gorbachev was kind of cutting his teeth so to speak- If I am not mistaken the believers even had a word very particular for that sixties generation and feel-actually I know they did -I will come back with it if I can find it on the web-if I can't I will ask Zoya
I think one of the fascinating things about different nations is how certain ism's seem to work better in some than others
If i could have had more time and not been such a lush and chased so much cock in my life I know I could have made communism work in the states (joke)
Going by something nathan said much earlier about whoever could find his pic-I will try to put out the same positve vibes to anybody can verify the absolute truth of a statement given in a wikipedia link about the life of chief party ideologist suslov-his daughter (apparently) thinks his death was somewhat suspicious-if I can verify the truth of this (sometimes i don't trust wiki-although when they are good and accurate they are an excellent source of shorthand info)
I would like to use the suslov suspicions in a post at my blog off in the future if its absolute veracity can be determined
all the best to OE, nathan, penguin,perelandra and everyone else who stops by-i do think I will come back tonight as I am going to try to find that generational ident the russkies had and maybe a pic or two
the only reason i am somewhat suspicious of the suslov info is that in all my studies of Kremlin palace revolutions i had never come across it before-if the death was indeed a murder it would have helped andropov very much-i have read so much about the lives of Kremlin leaders that I have even read a book by Lyuba Brezhneva-just to see if it had anything new in it in regards to factionalism and power struggles-it really didnt have very much-hope to be back tonight-best to you all!-Z india/pak really are going to bear monitoring-i have been very neglectful in keeping an eye on the other Z(zbig) some historians think he wanted Iran to become a theocracy just to destabilize the soviet border-thoughts-?

[zhivkov]