Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby drstrangelove » Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:07 am

Continued - https://thehotstar.net/odysseynetwork.html
So who is Roy Ames?

Two of Dean Corll's victims had been buried together at the boat shed location in what was marked gravesite #5. These were bodies #9 and #10, belonging to Donald and Jerry Waldrop. Two brothers aged fifteen and thirteen respectively. Bizarrely, found on top of body #9, Donald Waldrop, was a partially filled out Houston Police report. Which is to say, Dean Corll had buried these two brothers with a partially filled out Houston police report. But body #9 wasn't the only one buried with a Houston police report. One had also been found beneath body #3 in gravesite #3, which had belonged to Marty Ray Jones(18). These two Houston PD reports, possible the same one in two separate parts, were never booked into evidence with the rest of the items found in the graves. Instead, the officer who had recovered them placed them inside a lockbox back at the police station33. And they are never mentioned again in any of the available case files. They just vanish. Which draws into question the circumstances surrounding the boat shed dig.
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The boat shed excavation began around 6.30pm on the 8th of August. Gravesites #1, #2, and #3 were unearthed in that order. After the police report had been found in gravesite #3, detectives at the scene were replaced with new ones. This occurred at approximately 10.45pm before gravesite #4 had been discovered. Gravesite #4 was unearthed sometime after 10.45pm, after which the crime scene was shutdown for the evening at 11.55pm and handed over to an overnight patrol unit34. Digging then resumed on the 9th of August at 11.30am with gravesite #5, which was eventually unearthed at 12.05pm(aprox) where the second police report was found on top of body #9, Donald Waldrop35.
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Dean Corll, for some reason, had buried police reports in gravesite #3 and #5. But he had also buried, for some reason, documents identifying the bodies of Donald and Jerry Waldrop in gravesite #5, with two other bodies in gravesite #8. These were an identification card and social security card for an EDWARD WALDROP, who was Donald & Jerry Waldrop's older brother and whose ID Donald Waldrop had been using when he went missing; and a hospital ID card for Jerry Waldrop that identified his parents as Everett & Mary Inez 36. So Dean Corll had buried the Waldrop brothers in gravesite #5 along with a partially filled out police report. Then buried documents identifying thr Waldrop brothers with two other bodies buried in gravesite #8. Why the Waldrop brothers out of 26 other victims?

Well, on the same day all this was discovered, that is on the 9th of August 1973, the father of Donald and Jerry Waldrop, Everett Waldrop, called Houston PD and inquired if any of the bodies had been those of his two youngest boys, reported missing back in 1971. Then Everett Waldrop gave Houston PD the names of two men he said his boys had been mixed up with at the time of their disappearance. The names he gave them were Bill Walls and Roy Ames37.

Everett Waldrop had also given police this information back in February 1971 when his boys first went missing. As part of a missing persons report he had stated that he thought his boys were with a man named Roy Ames who “gathers kids and takes movies”38.

So we have:
— A letter from a Californian informant sent on the 24th of August that mentions Roy Ames knew Dean Corll and had photographed some of Dean Corll's victims.
— A missing persons report filed by the father of two victims back in 1971 which states he thought his boys were with a man named Roy Ames.
— A statement by Guy Strait of the DOMLyric ring in California that he knew a child pornographer in Houston named Roy Ames.

Then, on the 22nd of December 1973, Houston PD received information from another informant in California, Richard Van Payne, who stated “that he had been in the WAREHOUSE in Houston and had seen photographs of the dead boys in the mass murder”. He also gave police the name John Norman as a person of interest39.

Sometime in December 1973, the U.S Postal Service had raided a warehouse in Houston, Texas from which was seized four tons of child pornography. And this warehouse belonged to a man named Roy Clifton Ames40. Also discovered were letters addressed to Ames from a Roger D. Smith, which outlined the sale and purchase of films depicting scenes of children in sexual bondage. In one of the letters Smith had written that a particular child pornography film would have been better if the producers had 'tossed in a stiff 14-year old'41.

Finally, in February 1975 another Houston warehouse belonging to Roy Ames was raided. And this time two tons of child pornography were seized, and here it is, police identified 11 of Dean Corll's victims as those featured in the pornographic materials found42.

Which leave us with this:

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And even still, Roy Ames was never seriously investigated by Houston PD. He was charged and sentenced after the raids, and then later for other child pornography crimes, for which he was incarcerated from 1975-198543. From what little information that can be found on him, Roy Ames had been a well established music producer whose label, Clarity music, had exploited blues musicians in the Houston area. Record of his child pornography activities is scant. Most of what can be found on him involves copyright suits. The connection between him and Dean Corll was never made, even though it was clearly there.

And that was that. Dean Corll was dead. Henley and Brooks received life sentences. The jury who convicted them lambasted the district attorney and Houston PD for "leaving unexplored the possible involvement of others and related criminal activities"44. Which shows the oddness of this case was not lost on those presented with it at the time. And there were pits and pieces, statements made by police about the case which did make their way into the press, casting better light on the 'unexplained' circumstances surrounding it.

But interesting bits of information about the case leaked out here and there over the years to come.

A newspaper reported in 1976,” 'We knew that they were shipping kids – boy prostitutes – back forth to the West Coast in the Ames deal,' Contreras said. . .It was some sort of shuttle service. Ames and some of his people were engaged in this. They would send California kids here and Houston kids to California.”45.

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This contention is evidenced by the fact both informants, Steven Ahern and Richard Van Payne, who had given Houston PD tips on the Roy Ames operation had been from California. While on the other hand, David Brooks also stated that Houston kids killed by Corll had been bound for California46.

In a 1977 Chicago Tribune investigative series was the interesting paragraph: “Dallas police told Sgt. Ronald Kelly, head of the Area 6 youth division, that they have information associating Norman with the ring that helped transport to Texas the 27 boys murdered in Houston in 1973 in a widely publicised sex and sadism case."47.

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So what about John Norman? Well, his network continued to operate well into the late 1970s and became linked to another series child murders, attributed to a serial killer by the name John Wayne Gacy. Which will be covered in a subsequent article. But for now, what can be made of this from putting together the fragments of evidence?

At least in part, John Norman in Dallas was operating a procurement and distribution network for two groups producing child pornography in Houston and California. Child prostitution was apart of this to. His network was an intermediary between the two, sending boys from California to Houston and boys from Houston to California. In this way, the network was able to isolate boys from their locality and make them reliant on the network for lodging, expenses etc. This made them more compliant and willing to accept the things asked of them they hadn't signed on for, such as sadomasochist pornography. Trafficking boys across state lines also created a jurisdictional nightmare for local law enforcement agencies at a time when federal ones where either disinterested in these crimes or covering them up.

Roy Ames used Dean Corll to recruit boys for John Norman in Dallas who would send them onto LA. It is also likely Roy Ames used Dean Corll as an adult actor in sadomasochist pornography, which possibly escalated into the production of snuff films sold on the European black market. This isn't really that speculative. We know Dean Corll raped, tortured, and murdered at least 11 children also used by Roy Ames to produce child pornography. This happened in Houston, which is a port city. We also know that the S&M child pornography Roy Ames produced ended up on the European market. And one of his customers even expressed interest in a snuff film in a letter written to Ames. All the ingredients are there. In fact, the only argument to be made against this would be:
1) They didn't think of it.
2) They did think of it but didn't do it. Either due to moral objection, or because it wasn't profitable enough to be worth the risk.

The absence of hard evidence for this, that being the existence of an actual snuff film found, would be attributed to such an item being high risk and in high demand(?). It is unlikely such an item would be circulated locally, or left lying around in storage for police to discover. A snuff film would most likely be made to order, and forgive the use of this insensitive analogy, but much like an expensive custom luxury item that is request, made, then shipped to the customer. Moreover, it would also seem as if some members of the Houston PD were involved in a cover of the Roy Ames association with Dean Corll. The police report which Dean Corll assumably buried with two of his victims was found on one directly linked to Roy Ames through a missing persons report filed by the father two years prior to the body being discovered. And this police report never found its way into evidence. Roy Ames was never investigated in regards to the murders despite multiple leads pointing towards him. In addition to this there was the State Department destroying John Norman's client list discovered by Dallas PD. So there is evidence for a lack of evidence being attributed to a cover-up of evidence.

What has been covered is just an introductory to a much larger network which continued to operate in many more cities for many more years to come. A network linked to John Wayne Gacy, the Oakland County Child Killer, and possibly the Atlanta Child Murders. What is of interest here is not serial killers or isolated incidents, but patterns of behaviour, broad in scope and of a specific type of cruelty, closely associated to, if not directly related with, high powered individuals within the modern institutions of industrial societies – religious, business, political, or otherwise. This isn't conspiracy, it is custom, and one so rotten it cannot clean up after itself well enough to disguise what has become readily observable to those who won't advert their eyes.

Resources

Much of the information used had been compiled in a data dump at cavdef.org, an excellent resource for the investigation into highly organised human sex trafficking rings.
References
1. Pasadena PD Supplementary Offense Report, J-12345, August 8th 1973.
2. Houston PD Offense Report, D-68905, September 3rd 1973.
3. Houston PD Offense Report, D-68904, August 9th 1973.
4. Pasadena PD Supplementary Offense Report, J-12345, August 9th 1973(? - Part of report not dated, but most likely 9th).
5. Elmer Wayne Henley signed confession given to Pasadena PD, August 9th 1973, 11:55am.
6. Elmer Wayne Henley signed confession given to Pasadena PD, August 9th 1973, 11:55am.
7. David Owen Brooks signed confession given to Harris County PD, August 9th 1973, 1:20pm.
8. David Owen Brooks signed confession given to Harris County PD, August 9th 1973, 1:20pm.
9. Houston PD Supplementary Offense Report, D-68904, Progress Report - August 16th 1973.
10.Houston PD Supplementary Offense Report, D-68904, Progress Report - August 13th 1973.
11. Dallas PD Prosecution Report, August 15 1973.
12.

''The authorities said that the ring, operating under the name of the Odyssey Foundation with a San Diego, Calif., post office box, became known last Friday when a 24‐year‐old member of the organization became panicky that the police were about to strike.''

— 'Alleged Homosexual Ring Found In a Raid on Apartment in Dallas', New York Times, Aug. 16 1973.

(NOTE: The last friday before August 16th 1973 was August 10th. However, the police report filed by the Dallas detective who received the tip states he received the information on August 14th.)
13.

''The ring was uncovered Tuesday by Dallas police on a tip from a man who said he was involved in the ring but got scared when his services were requested by a man in Houston. The Houston man was not identified.''
— 'Police seek tie between killings, homosexual ring', Independent (Long Beach CA), 1973/08/17.
14.

''The detectives raided the second‐floor apartment at 3716 Cole Avenue and seized files, pornographic literature, a camera, photo‐engraving equipment, stationery, an electric typewriter and hundreds of booklets with names and addresses. The confiscated material filled a pickup truck.''

— 'Alleged Homosexual Ring Found In a Raid on Apartment in Dallas', New York Times, Aug. 16 1973.
15.

'' Lt. Harold Hancock of the Dallas police arrested Norman in March, 1973, on charges of contributing to juvenile violation of state drug laws. Hancock told The Tribune he confiscated from Norman more than 30,000 index cards listing clients around the country, some of them prominent people and some federal employes in Washington. ''

— 'Chicago is center of national child pornography ring', Chicago Tribune, May 16 1977.

(NOTE: John D. Norman was arrested in Dallas multiple times in 1973, each time index cards had been discovered by police. Reportedly 5,000 in March, then 35,000 in August. This confusion is touched upon in a Senate hearing investigating this, where the state department confirms two of its employees were named on the 35,000 siezed in August.)

16.

The New York Times online digital TEXT-based archive scrubbed the word "kill" from their record of their article published on 16 August 1973: “Assistant Police Chief Donald Steele reported that four pictures of young boys found in the apartment had the word written on them. However, the police said they were told the word referred to their removal from the procurement ring's literature because they were uncooperative and did not mean they had been ordered killed.”

— 'Alleged Homosexual Ring Found In a Raid on Apartment in Dallas', New York Times, Aug. 16 1973.

But a scanned copy of the original printed article, hidden behind their paywall, does include the word “kill”: Viewable here

Another article, published in the Independent(Long Beach, California) on August 16th 1973 also reported on the photographs with the word 'kill': Viewable here
17.

''Brooks also mentioned that Dean often received sexually orientated material through the mail''
— Houston PD Supplementary Offense Report, D-68904, Progress Report - August 11th 1973.
18.

“(Brooks) saying that Corll had been super secretive about his mail, picking it up at a post-office box, reading it then destroying it.”
— Pasadena PD Supplementary Offense Report, J-12345, 20 September 1976.
19.

''The State Department confirmed to The Tribune that it had received the cards. Matthew Nimetz, a counsellor for the State Department, said officials there determined 'the cards were not relevant to any fraud case concerning a passport' and therefore destroyed them.''

— 'Chicago is center of national child pornography ring', Chicago Tribune, May 16 1977.
20.

Protection of Children Against Sexual Exploitation, Hearings before the Subcommittee to Investigate Juvenile Delinquency of the Committee on the Judiciary United States Senate, Ninety-fifth Congress. Letter from Department of State Washington D.C, June 27, 1977, written by Douglas J. Bennet Jr, Assistant Secretary for Congressional Relations. Copy of the letter found on Page 119 of the report.
21.

Houston PD Supplementary Offense Report, D-68904, August 31st 1973.
22.

Houston PD Supplementary Offense Report, D-68904, August 31st 1973.
23.

Houston PD Supplementary Offense Report, D-68904, August 31st 1973.
24.

''Police said they were checking with Texas authorities in Dallas and Houston to find out whether there is any connection with an alleged ring in Texas which supplied hundreds of teenage boys as prostitutes for older men across the country''

— '2 arrested for using boys as sex actors', The San Bernardino County Sun (San Bernardino, California), 3rd September 1973.
25.

''William Byars, 37, of Hollywood, whom investigators identified as an heir to the Humble Oil fortune. He owns several motion picture companies, including Lyric Productions''

— '14 Men Indicted in Sex Movies Featuring Boys Ages 6 to 17', The Los Angeles Times, 26 October 1973
26.

''Others named in the indictment are John F Rafferty, 58, a North hollywood machine shop owner; Frank Hersey, 66, a Manhattan Beach electronics technician; George Easter, 30, a Playa del Rey building maintenance contractor and William Johnston, 55, a Houston photographer.''

— '14 Men Indicted in Sex Movies Featuring Boys Ages 6 to 17', The Los Angeles Times, 26 October 1973
27.

''Grodin said the films sold for $50 each and the magazines for $5 and $10. Many of the alleged hardcore films were produced by Lyric Film Productions, reportedly owned by Byars. A Houston, Tex., photographer, William Johnson worked for Byars and also was named in the indictment. Grodin was quick to say there had been no link discovered between the alleged Los Angeles crimes and the mass homosexual murders in Houston, uncovered Aug. 8. He said Johnson and Byars may have transported some of their "actors" from the Houston area to California for the films.''

— 'Star's son faces sex charge', Independent, Press Telegram, Long Beach, California, October 27 1993
28.

Supposedly in the J. Edgar Hoover biography, "Official and Confidential" by Anthony Summers. Haven't read it though.
29.

“Still being sought by authorities are Bill Byars, 37, a Hollywood film producer and reported heir to the Humble Oil fortune; Bill Johnson, 55, of Houston, a photographer employed by Byars, and Guy Strait, 53, of Los Angles, a producer and distributor of so-called 'chicken gay films'. Grodin said he believes all three men are in Europe.”

— '14 Men Indicted in Sex Movies Featuring Boys Ages 6 to 17', The Los Angeles Times, 26 October 1973
30.

'' On May 13, 1976, Guy Strait (hereinafter "defendant") was charged with the March 3, 1972 offense of indecent liberties with a child. Steven Kavadas (hereinafter "Kavadas") was 14 years old at the time of the incident in question. ''

— People v. Strait
31.

'' Strait said he knows John Norman, who ran a national male prostitution ring employing young boys and helping put together a ''neater package' to attract customers ''

— 'His only regret: I got caught', Chicago Tribune, May 17, 1977
32.

Protection of Children Against Sexual Exploitation, Hearings before the Subcommittee to Investigate Juvenile Delinquency of the Committee on the Judiciary United States Senate, Ninety-fifth Congress, page 25
33.

Houston PD Offense Report, D-68904, August 9th 1973. Page 14.
34.

Houston PD Offense Report, D-68904, August 9th 1973. Page 9.
35.

Houston PD Offense Report, D-68904, August 9th 1973.
36.

Houston PD Offense Report, D-68904, August 9th 1973. Page 12 & 13.
37.

Houston PD Offense Report, D-68904, August 9th 1973. Page 4.
38.

Houston PD Missing Persons Report, Feburary 9 1971. page 10.
39.

Houston PD Supplementary Offense Report, D-68904, Progress Report December 22 1973.
40.

'' According to officials from the U.S. Postal Service, in December 1973, a search was made of a warehouse belonging to Roy Clifton Ames in Houston, Texas. Postal Inspectors seized over four tons of child pornography materials. In 1975, a second search was conducted of Ames' warehouse by Houston police officers. In this search, over two tons of child pornography were seized.''

— 598 STATE v. SMITH Feb. 1991 60 Wn. App. 592, 805 P.2d 256

'' In 1974, postal authorities in Texas arrested Roy Ames and found 4 tons of magazines and films in a Houston warehouse. Ames was charged with recruiting children off the Houston streets and paying them $5 for posing for photos and $5 for sex acts. He was sentenced to 12 years imprisonment on federal charges of sending obscene material through the mails.''

— 'Children becoming commodities in pornography world', Fort Worth Star-Telegram, 1st May 1977
41.

“In the letters seized during both searches, officials found correspondence from R.D. Smith, 16704 - 72nd Avenue Northeast, Bothell, WA 98011. In numerous letters that were seized, Smith described his receipt of various items of hard-core child pornography, including depictions of young boys engaging in sexual intercourse with older boys, and scenes of children in sexual bondage. In one letter, Smith wrote that he had been buying this explicit material for about five years. In another letter, Smith commented that a particular child pornography film would have been better if the manufacturers had "tossed in a stiff 14-year old." In another letter, Smith wrote that he possessed 650 slides of hard-core sexual activity involving children and "who knows how many B & W sets, all of which are enjoyably reviewed from time-to-time." Officers also recovered order forms with Smith's name and address, personal checks from Smith, and a release form signed by Smith indicating that he is not offended by sexually oriented material.”

— 598 STATE v. SMITH Feb. 1991 60 Wn. App. 592, 805 P.2d 256
42.

Note: This requires some piecing together as information on Roy Ames is scant and it is quite apparent, at least to the author, that his involvement was covered up. Even still, it can be proven.

“Postal Inspectors seized over four tons of child pornography materials. In 1975, a second search was conducted of Ames' warehouse by Houston police officers. In this search, over two tons of child pornography were seized.”

— 598 STATE v. SMITH Feb. 1991 60 Wn. App. 592, 805 P.2d 256

“Four and one quarter tons of porn and equipment were initially confiscated. Later two additional tons were seized by Houston Police Department. Roy Ames and his associate, Leonard Edward Cunningham, recruited boys from the Houston area and paid them to perform homosexual acts with each other and with adults while Ames filmed and took still photos of them in local residences and motels.”

— 'The select committee on Child Pornography: Its related causes and control', Texas House of Representatives, Sixty Sixth Legislative Session, page 72.

“Juvenile officers say 11 boys who were victims in the Houston mass murders case are pictured in sex material seized in what police called a homosexual ring.
. . .The case became public last week when four men were charged with sexual abuse of a child. They are Bryant A. Burch, 31, Leonard E. Cunningham, 29, John Jennings, 40, and Alfred Van dyke, 35.”

— 'Youths pictured in sex material', Wichita Falls Times, 28 Feb 1975.

“Juvenile Lt. H.A Contreras said Detective John St. John and a partner met with officers Wednesday about the case of photographer Roy Clifton Ames, convicted in 1975 for using the mails to distribute obscene material. Ames was sentenced to a Springfield Mo., federal prison after photographs of 11 Houston area victims of the mass murders were seized following the arrests and murder convictions of Elmer Wayne Henley Jr. and David Owen Brooks. 'We knew that they were shipping kids – boy prostitutes – back forth to the West Coast in the Ames deal,' Contreras said.
. . .It was some sort of shuttle service. Ames and some of his people were engaged in this. They would send California kids here and Houston kids to California.”

— 'Houston-Los Angeles Link Discussed In Mass Killings', The Napa Valley Register, 23 Sept 1976.
43.

Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish', Houston Press, August 28 2003.
44.

''There appeared to us to be a lack of inquiry into a number of important details' the report said. 'Much of the problem in following up the wealth of leads was the lack of knowledge of what the district attorney's office had or had not investigated ''

— 'Jury blasts handling of murder case', Brownwood Bulletin, 2 November 1973.
45.

''We knew that they were shipping kids – boy prostitutes – back and forth to the west coast in the Ames deal,' Ltd. H.A Contreras said. 'But they just never got time to work that.' 'It was sort of a shuttle service. Ames and some of this people were engaged in this. They would send California kids here and Houston kids to California.''

— 'No link found in Texas, California Mass Murders', Tyler Morning Telegraph, 24 September, 1976.
46.

The first few that Dean killed were supposed to have been sent off somewhere in California,” Brooks said.”

— 'Texas' Toll of Boys Rises to 27 In Nation's Biggest Slaying Case', New York Times, August 14, 1973.
47.

— 'Chicago is center of national child pornography ring', Chicago Tribune, May 16 1977.
Timeline
8 August '73 - Dean Corll found dead
8 August '73, 6:30PM - Police start dig of boat shed
8 August '73, 10:45PM - Police report discovered under body #3 in gravesite #3, dig called off at 11:55Pm
9 August '73, 12:05PM - Waldrop brothers and police report discoved in gravesite #5
9 August '73 - Wayne Henley & David Brooks give information Dean Corll is linked to organisation in Dallas
9 August '73 - Everett Waldrop tells Houston PD his boys had been mixed up with Roy Ames
13 August '73 - Houston PD contact Dallas PD about connection there
14 August '73 - Dallas PD raid apartment and arrest John Norman
17 August '73 - State Department takes interest in John Norman case
23 August '73 - State Department assists in John Norman case
24 August '73 - Steven Ahern sendd letter to Houston PD with information on Roy Ames and victims found in California child porn
31 August '73 - Houston PD reports on Ahern letter, that they contacted LAPD Vice division regarding this.
1 September '73 - LAPD Vice raid and arrest Guy Strait
23 October '73 - William Byars Jr and William Johnson raided and arrested
22 December '73 - Houston PD receive tip from Richard Van Payne about warehouse in Houston with photographs of victims
? Decemeber '73 - U.S postal service rain Roy Ames Houston warehouse
12 December '74 - Dallas PD give index cards to State Department
? February '75 - Second raid of Roy Ames warehouse, 11 victims ID'd in pornography found
27 September '75 - State Department destroys index cards


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Re: Serial killers with hidden parapolitical connections

Postby Marionumber1 » Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:56 am

Excellent article, this puts the pieces together in a way that's not really been done before. And I appreciate the shout-out to CAVDEF as well. I'm definitely looking forward to your next ones. :thumbsup

The circumstances that led the Dallas PD to bust Odyssey are somewhat mysterious, as multiple different accounts exist. Reportedly, a young man named Charles Brisendine who was recruited by John Norman through The Advocate (the same magazine from which Steven Dale Ahern was recruited) is the one who blew the whistle. He was disgusted by the fact that Norman's operation claimed to be about bettering young boys' lives but actually turned out to be a prostitution ring, and when he noticed Norman was often on the phone to Houston, it made him suspicious of a connection with Corll. Brisendine contacted the FBI sometime on the weekend of the 10th-12th (Friday through Sunday), then the inaction led him to tell his story to The Advocate, who in turn reached out to the FBI to confirm the story, and their prodding was apparently enough for the FBI to fire off a memo to the Dallas police on August 13th (that Monday). It is quite strange that we have two additional different accouns of the motive (with ages like 24 that are also slightly older than Brisendine): one where the informant was worried the police were about to strike and another where they were a male prostitute about to be sent to Houston.

When I have a chance, I will get all of these materials uploaded; I'm sure you'll find them of interest.
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Postby drstrangelove » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:06 pm

Thank you. Seems to me you can trace things through a single narrative using John Norman as a hub of spokes, from 1973 into the 1980s.

Dean Corll links to John Norman in 1973. (Candyman)
Franchis Shelden links to John Norman in 1976. (OCCK)
John Wayne Gacy links to John Norman in 1979. (CLOWN)

All three cases had one or more adults supervising one or more teen-aged procurers of males mostly under twenty. Same profile as the Atlanta child murders, which had the music producer/child pornographer connection just like Roy Ames in Houston.

I though about a possible trap of confirmation bias concerning Norman, as anyone who was into young boys was probably subscribed to his newsletters, which shouldn't automatically infer a connection. But the photographs of boys with the word "kill" on them found in his Dallas apartment, along with the Phillip Paske connection, infer direct rather than passive links. Too many coincidences. Which is why alternative theories for these cases are just ignored as opposed to 'debunked'. Or they are sanitized to become one of those "strange" things where "something more may have been going on" but no actual conclusions are drawn. Like the recent round of docos and podcasts covering links between Norman and these serial killers, but they never actually investigate any NEW evidence. They just bring up OLD evidence that was ignored then say "Yep, probably something to it. But we'll never know. Oh well. Or they focus on stuff, while interesting, that can't really serve as proper evidence - stuff like Corll and Gacy using the same handcuff trick to restrain their victims.
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Postby drstrangelove » Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:04 pm

Marionumber1 » Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:56 am wrote:The circumstances that led the Dallas PD to bust Odyssey are somewhat mysterious, as multiple different accounts exist. Reportedly, a young man named Charles Brisendine who was recruited by John Norman through The Advocate (the same magazine from which Steven Dale Ahern was recruited) is the one who blew the whistle. He was disgusted by the fact that Norman's operation claimed to be about bettering young boys' lives but actually turned out to be a prostitution ring, and when he noticed Norman was often on the phone to Houston, it made him suspicious of a connection with Corll. Brisendine contacted the FBI sometime on the weekend of the 10th-12th (Friday through Sunday), then the inaction led him to tell his story to The Advocate, who in turn reached out to the FBI to confirm the story, and their prodding was apparently enough for the FBI to fire off a memo to the Dallas police on August 13th (that Monday). It is quite strange that we have two additional different accouns of the motive (with ages like 24 that are also slightly older than Brisendine): one where the informant was worried the police were about to strike and another where they were a male prostitute about to be sent to Houston.

When I have a chance, I will get all of these materials uploaded; I'm sure you'll find them of interest.


This was actually the one part I was most unsure about, and ended up taking a liberty with the convenience of the dates. The NYTimes reported the tip had been received on the 10th. The police report states it was received the same day as the raid on the 14th. I thought it could've been the anon tipster received the call from Houston that spooked them on the 10th then called in the tip on the 14th. Either way, boys started to cal in tips about the network after hearing the new about the murders in Houston. Probably because they were either scared, outraged, or both.
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Postby Grizzly » Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:36 am

Timely or...

Interview 1718 - Sean Stone on The Best Kept Secret
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Sean Stone joins James to discuss his new documentary series, Best Kept Secret. They discuss the international pedophile networks, mind control, and the transhuman agenda, [Son of Sam killings] emphasis, mine- etc as well as what we as individuals can do about these growing threats to humanity.
“The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it.”

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Postby Marionumber1 » Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:42 pm

drstrangelove » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:06 pm wrote:Thank you. Seems to me you can trace things through a single narrative using John Norman as a hub of spokes, from 1973 into the 1980s.

Dean Corll links to John Norman in 1973. (Candyman)
Franchis Shelden links to John Norman in 1976. (OCCK)
John Wayne Gacy links to John Norman in 1979. (CLOWN)

All three cases had one or more adults supervising one or more teen-aged procurers of males mostly under twenty. Same profile as the Atlanta child murders, which had the music producer/child pornographer connection just like Roy Ames in Houston.


I would bet that the Atlanta child murders ultimately link to this same pedophile network as well. There are several rumors I've been investigating that point in that direction, such as Wayne Williams reportedly linking to North Fox Island moneyman Adam Starchild, but nothing solid yet. Still, like you say, it fit the pattern almost too well.
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Postby Marionumber1 » Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:50 pm

Grizzly » Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:36 am wrote:Timely or...

Interview 1718 - Sean Stone on The Best Kept Secret
https://seed122.bitchute.com/GwPziiQZrVT3/rQ7iswChI8nh.mp4

Sean Stone joins James to discuss his new documentary series, Best Kept Secret. They discuss the international pedophile networks, mind control, and the transhuman agenda, [Son of Sam killings] emphasis, mine- etc as well as what we as individuals can do about these growing threats to humanity.


It's interesting to see Sean Stone being so candid about these topics, when his father produced a disinformational film about the McMartin case, of course helping to shape the narrative that ritual abuse cases were all just "witch hunts".
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Postby drstrangelove » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:55 pm

Ever come across solid info on the 'Better Life Monthly' publication?

Gerald Richards states Shelden personally knew the editor and publisher. Police reports don't give any further information. However, in the senate inquiry Richards gives the following info:
- Publisher's alias is Barry Wright or Wayne Smith. Richards states Shelden gave the publishers name as Wayne Smith, but that this is an alias.
- Published by Broad Street Journal in Colorado.
- Has P.O Box mail forwarding service in Beverley Hills, California.

Police reports do mention Hermes, which is established as a John Norman publication.

I feel like there is a direct link here somewhere between Shelden and John Norman. It can obviously be inferred using a totality of evidence, but this isn't ideal. I haven't arrived at the Norman / Delta Project / Philip Paske / John Wayne Gacy period yet, so haven't gone through all the Chicago Tribune articles etc. Or any of Norman's Colorado period. Which, if this is a Norman publication, then the evidence should be found in his time there.

The three newsletters that keep coming up are:
Hermes
Better Life Monthly
The Advocate

Hermes seems to be the hardcore S&M child porn one that links into snuff. The other two more moderate pedo rights publications that linked to hermes for those looking for hardcore stuff.
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Postby drstrangelove » Mon Apr 11, 2022 6:58 pm

In one of the senate inquiry records there is multiple mentions of Mexican children being shipped into California for snuff pornography. LAPD Vice contacted detectives working the Odyssey network at some point in regards to this I think. But what I can't get past is the State Department having an official at the embassy in New Mexico turning up on John Norman's index cards. And that not being investigated and the cards being destroyed.

There's also mention, in the senate inquiry, about a rumor that the 'NY cultural elite' were holding private screenings of a snuff a film. Much in the same way they hold events at MoMa etc. This angle, snuff films as a new form of 'modern art' absolutely makes senses. Can't you imagine them all just watching a snuff film as if it were just another abstract painting, cradling wine glasses and passing comments like 'so visceral' 'so raw'. You can already see the undertones of this kind of violence in the modern art they flaunt within their homes and public galleries. They probably slaughter people on canvas then auction off the bloodstains.
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Postby drstrangelove » Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:45 am

Actually, all the info linking Shelden and NOrman together thorugh Hermes is covered in Marilyn Wright articles:
- Shelden had financial interest in Hermes
- John Bell, arrested for involvement in Hermes publishing operation in Chicago linked North Fox Island.
- Guy Strait production company F&S Distributions mentioned by Gerry Richards.
- Troop 137 bust linked one leader to Boys Farm and the other to John Norman himself.

What is available of the police reports is more or less useless.
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Postby drstrangelove » Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:51 am

After deep diving the North Fox Island case the connections between it and OCCK aren't as clear as I thought they would be. I'm not arguing they aren't connected, evidence is clear Christopher Busch & Gregory Greene were at least involved with some of the OCCK victims. Beyond that, the connections between Francis Shelden and Christopher Busch I've been able to find are this:
- Both from elite Michigan families.
- Both at Wayne State university in 1970.
- Both used Big Brother program and molested a boy assigned to them through program.
- Both involved with child pornography rings during same period in the same area.
- Both had Michigan police or DA cover up their cases.
- An article that mentions both Busch and Shelden in back to back paragraphs in relation to 8mm child porn films, but the relation is inferred as the article cites separate cases.
- Another article stating that police were investigating if these two separate case were linked.

That's it.

I've come across a bunch of unsubstantiated stuff drawing conclusions from the above.

One thing I did come across as a possible direct link was in the diagram Gerald Richard drew up for police:

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In the bottom right of the diagram you see Richards draw a connection between Shelden and "Charlevoix", Michigan; with a bunch of other connections branching from that. Notice "Nels" is written three times there.

A brother of Christopher Busch was called Charles Nels Busch, meaning the name "Nels" was taken from a relative of the Busch family. Chris also had another brother called John Busch, whose middle name I haven't found. But John's children, being Chris's nephews, had been taken on the trip with Grunnels to the Busch cabin and Chris molested them as well. In police interview with Busch family members in 2008, it was mentioned by, I think one of these kids, then an adult, that their father John had known about Chris and left them with him alone regardless, which insinuates that Chris's brother John was also involved.

But this isn't enough.

Bunch of evidence that Shelden was connected into the John Norman ring. Gerry Richards was sending the 8mm films from Boys Farm to Guy Strait's F&S distributors in San Fran. Both men, Strait and Gerry, say they knew each other, or at least mention each other by name in the senate inquiry. Richards also told police that Shelden had a financial stake in Hermes, and during the Hermes raid in Chicago not long after two of the main people were said to have been working for/with john norman by police.

So the connection is clearly there through Hermes and Guy Strait. Just difficult to connect it to the OCCK thing.

If I had to guess, I think Shelden and Busch knew each other, but I don't think North Fox or that ring was related to the murders. However, I didn't read any of the books on this case and have just been using the raw police files/ news reports. Maybe there is something I missed.
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Postby drstrangelove » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:43 pm

This rabbit hole is a labyrinth. Seems to be a child rape and murder ring involving General Motors executives back in the 1970s, among them H. Lee Busch. Then interlinked to that, but somewhat distant due to class stratification, was the Cass corridor pedos like Richard Lawson and Bob Moore, who acted as procurers for the General Motors guys, but also child pornographers linked to the North Fox Island operation. So there's like three separate Detroit area networks. The ties between North Fox Island and OCCK flow through Cass corridor, which also ties the GM ring to North Fox Island.

Francis Shelden, Chris Busch, and Richard Lawson all used Big Brother programs operated through local church networks. The hub stitching the whole thing together is Cass Corridor, which is the least publicized aspect of this case. There was an article written about Richard Lawson by a journalist named Shane Liddick for San Diego Magazine published in April of 2005. It reported on Lawson's involvement with a human trafficking ring that operated on the San Diego Mexican border. As in, that border where those Mexican children were smuggled in custom fitted cars by a child pornography/prostitution/snuff ring, reported on in '76. Can't find it. The article had been scrubbed. No internet archive of it. No digital archive of it. I can find almost every issue of San Diego mag from 2005 except april. I know the article exists because it's referenced in both the May and July issues of that magazine from readers writing in. That cass corridor crew were working with cars at the time as well. Food for thought.

Also randomly stumbled across this:
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Pretty much confirms that rumor about NY elite holding private screenings of snuff films back then. What is Marina Abramović but a sadomasochist artist winking at snuff and creating monuments to pain and suffering.
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Postby drstrangelove » Wed May 11, 2022 7:30 pm

Here's two sources that state victims of Dean Corll were used in snuff films.

Now, Lloyd Martin was talking about the kids who didn't get out, the children in the plastic bags. There was one film reportedly making the circuit--supposedly it had been a big hit at an L.A party a few weeks before--showing a boy actually being murdered. He had been one of Dean Corll's kids down in Texas, the story went. That had happened to a lot of Dean Corll's kids. By the time they finished digging them up, the Houston police had come up with 27 of them. Police strongly suspected that a number of young porn stars were among Corll's victims

Originally published in article: 'The last porno Show', Robert Sam Anson, New Times, June 24, 1977. Article included as part of senate hearing.
Source: Senate Hearing protection into protection of children against sexual exploitation 46772 - 1977, page 154(native)
https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/Digitizat ... 2NCJRS.pdf

A few years ago in Houston, the police investigated the case of a man who first had sex with runaway boys, then killed them and buried the bodies. Altogether, twenty-seven bodies were recovered. The Houston police say they know nothing about such films, but a man in Los Angeles told us he had recently viewed a film showing the actual murders.

Source: Senate Hearing protection into protection of children against sexual exploitation 46772 - 1977, page 129(native)
https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/Digitizat ... 2NCJRS.pdf
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Postby drstrangelove » Wed May 11, 2022 7:39 pm

I also picked up a copy of 'Programmed to Kill'. I've got a bunch of books going at the moment so I'm only a couple chapters in but David McGowan is an excellent writer. He knows how to red pill.

I've also gotten bogged down in the North Fox Island research. Christopher Busch was a red herring in my opinion. The Cass corridor child porn crew and Francis shelden were connected through information given by Richard Lawson. The primary connection for everything is a man named Josiah Tazelaar, who is directly connected to Gerald Richards. Francis Shelden was the American end of a transatlantic kiddie porn/snuff ring to Amsterdam. In the middle of a write up on this with all the evidence. But the whole thing is found in the notes of Det. Corey Williams, which details the North Fox Island police and FBI files that weren't released to the public. Not in great detail, but using them you can piece the whole thing together. The GM pedo ring was just an auxiliary thing.
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Postby drstrangelove » Wed May 11, 2022 7:43 pm

I need to finish and get away from this shit, it's thoroughly unpleasant.
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