Christianity-Alt. Dimensionality-The Open Revealing of Evil

by **smaller** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:05 pm

Greetings All My nom de plume is smaller. I am a Christian. Not a traditional or Orthodox Christian. I nearly totally reject the various false control systems that "all" of these formal institutions represent. I was going to post this "information" under spirituality, but decided to present under data dump for a couple of reasons. Firstly, anytime one brings up the subject of Christianity it immediately comes with so many tags and judgments (true and false) that it becomes nearly impossible to sort through all the pieces because of the furor of debate, and secondly there is an automatic response syndrome of evil that is presented in the "Bible" (the 66 books of the Textus Receptus) that I believe heretofore has been withheld from the thronging masses by "organized denominations" not so much out of openly evil motives but of the ignorance of the very powers of evil that are described therein. And so a friend of mine who has observed me for nearly 25 years interacting within these various false control systems and then coming out of them brought me to the Rigorous Intuition website and I have been reading in rapt attention as the author does such a fine job of not forcing his own reflection upon the subject matter. His "information" overlaps what I see as well but I do not intend to only reflect my own "mirror" so to speak either. This is an important "biblical" principle. If you want to stay somewhat free, (whatever that means) sometimes you have to avoid becoming trapped by your own reflections...<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> If this information dump on this particular subject adds to the flavor of the observations, as it should to any sincere observer of "things," so be it. I am happy to provide detailed scriptural references for all of my postulations...<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> Warning number 1: I do not believe that God is going to burn anyone alive in fire forever for not believing in Him and this alone is a slap in the face of traditional and orthodox Christianity. All people are easily proven to be "God's offspring" in the scriptures and as such God is not going to be burning His Own children alive in fire for a nanosecond let alone for eternity. God is assuredly not an eternal human torturist. And if He is such a thing I would not bother to believe anything such a being/entity would have to say anyway. I mean really, how much more evil can any being/entity get to than to promote eternally torturing people alive in fire??? Think about it! Not even Hitler was that bad. Warning number 2: Any exposure to the Truth of God's Unequivocal Love for all people via "the scriptures" (speaking specifically of God and Christ's Direct Words) brings an instant response from "the devil and his messengers/evil" in a persons heart. This should be warning number 1, but warning number 1 is more important. Now, on to some of the juicier details...<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> Let's start with some basics that may shock the uninitiated. Jesus, during His Ministry upon the earth (as attested to in the 4 Gospels) openly showed the presence of the devil and his messengers within the human body or the flesh of mankind. We cannot actually view the presence of these evil entities with our eyes, but if one is aware of the "patterns" of their activity these evil entities (as so clearly evidenced in part by Rigorous Intuition) then this information will serve to enhance our common knowledge about this subject and improve our serve. Nearly every "Christian" will vehemently deny that this particular problem of evil is personal to them, and many readers here will deny this fact as well. Unfortunately it's just a scriptural fact from God's Word, and facts of this nature won't be changing anytime soon. It's also part of the "control system" of these invisible evil entities. These evil entities do not want to be found or discovered. Human bodies are their hosts. And when they are discovered, look out! They will control. When they cannot control they will attack. They can also KILL and cause killing again as so aptly shown in Rig.Int. The general observation herein is this: There are quantifiable invisible evil entities that are a reality in our world. These entities cannot be viewed like a devil with horns or anything like that, but they are real nevertheless and these things dwell in the flesh of ALL of mankind without exception to larger or smaller degrees. Much of their workings and ways can be isolated and seen using THE SCRIPTURES as a viewing tool. After all we are peering into an invisible world. How are we to understand such things??? Sometimes these invisible evil entities who abide in the flesh become aroused and empowered. How is this you say? Here is a smaller primer. The Apostle Paul described the presence and existence of evil in summarized form kind of along these lines. If he did not have a "law" that dictated "Do not commit adultery" he would not have known adultery to be a bad thing or a sin. "The Law" then revealed to his mind and heart that adultery is a "sin." or "evil." I will elaborate on the phenomena and description of "sin/evil" in later posts perhaps. So Paul through "the law" now knew that adultery is a sin/evil and that even the thought of adultery was the same as committing the act of same. Yikes! Along with the baggage of mentally committing this "common everyday evil" comes the guilt associtated with the thought of doing or committing the actual evil. So in the single stroke of a pen, "Do not commit adultery," the thoughts of this evil are implanted into one's mind, and the resulting corresponding desires, and VOILA! We have a little first revealing of the evil that resides within us and this is exactly what the scriptures intended to show us all.That evil is present within us all. I am not saying here that sex is evil. But adultery and even the thought of adultery is considered an evil act in the law and by Jesus' Words. Even saying to another person that person is a fool is also an evil. The list of evils is rather lengthy. Paul has some very interesting things to say about this evil that was present within him. First of all he called the sin indwelling him "no longer I" twice in the 7th chapter of Romans and also stated that whenever he desired to do good he found that evil was also present with him. Not that he was that evil that was present with him. In this matter Paul showed that the sin indwelling him was a produce of the evil that was also present with him, but WAS NOT HIM. This is a very very important principle and a principle that is largely ignored by all the churches. It suits their needs to BLAME YOU AND ONLY YOU! That way THEY control YOU. To enhance the importance of this position of NON-identification with the sin indwelling and evil present the Apostle John presents us with his unique corresponding understandings. John tells us that "we cannot say we have no sin" or the Truth is not in us. What "truth" you say? The "truth" of this FACT. In other words apart from our acknowledging this fact we remain blinded by that very evil we are attached to in our bodies/flesh and we remain ignorant and devoid of THE TRUTH. John also presents what I call the ultimate dilemma in scriptural understandings in the 3 chapter of 1 John vs. 6 wherein he states that whoever sins does not know God NOR have they EVER. Wow! How can any man make a claim to then know God since "all" have "sin" as a present tense reality and all have sinned. It's a nearly impossible situation that John lays out to us UNTIL we draw the DIVIDING LINE between ourselves and that which we are attached to. Then John goes on to state that "he who committeth sin is of the devil." OK then. (forgive the King James soliloquy) We cannot say that we have no sin, and sin is of the devil. Bingo! Do the math. Now for the some of the scarier parts. Most people can observe that there are probably thousands of "christian denominations." Anyone with "exposure" to these various religious control systems that applies any modest amount of "study" to their matters will quickly discover that nearly none of them agree with each other on any particular subject. BUT, the BIG BUT here is that all of these "religious institutions" have a single and very openly stated outstanding fact in common. That supposed fact is that nearly ALL of humanity (except them of course) are going to be burned alive in HELL FOREVER by God. Can you believe that? This is nearly the ONLY SINGLE THING that all of these thousands of groups have IN COMMON! That God is an eternal human torturist via fire!!!! Hello! It may interest anyone who has bothered to read this far into this post and contrary to this overly popularized belief of God as an eternal human torturist via fire that The Bible makes no such presentation. There is not one single instance of ANY NAMED PERSON in the entire Bible that is stated as to be going to the infamous "Lake of Fire." Not only that but there is also not a single instance of ANY NAMED PERSON even threatened with such a fate in the entire Bible! This is a FACT. How is it then that a position that does not even exist as it relates to MANKIND has now became the number one position of commonality amongst these groups!!!??? Whew! Look around you. On nearly every corner of every city of the Christianized world this PRIMARY COMMON TENET of the promotion of eternal human torture via fire by God is promoted. This is an open confirmation of the very essence of the EVIL that is contained within mankind and this presence is not only upheld, it is the only common fact that these people WORSHIP. Are you starting to get the picture yet? If this thread gets some interest I'll elaborate in numerous directions as to how some of this may relate to Rigorous Intuition's observations, but the bottom line here is this: Christianity is not what it appears to be on the surface. The promotion of eternal human torture via fire is not from God, but from THE DEVIL AND HIS MESSENGERS and these devil worshippers are intricately woven into the fabric of our society and our governments. Most participants are ignorant of the facts. Blind sheep as usual. As we can see somewhat via Rigorous Intuition, it takes very little scratching to see through these false power screens and to then question the "gods" behind these various curtains and even more, the very real and quantifiable structures that exist behind this presented veil. This is not a solicitation to "save you." That's not my deal here nor do I even believe that it was ever possible to permanently "lose you" to begin with. I could care less what you personally believe regarding these matters or why so stuff that judgment right now. If there is any interest in this subject I will also elaborate how this present day belief that people are going to be eternally burned in fire by God is actually a modern day version of MOLECH WORSHIP that was a ritualized killing/sacrifice of children in fire from the Old Testament. And that the chains and connections of the entirety of these events ties in intricately with nearly every act that is observed in Rig. Int. I am very interested in truth for MYself, and whatever that may encompass. Therefore I watch and learn and participate. And of course there is nothing new under the sun. We can look back and draw definitive correlations in these matters. Unofficially and as a hobby I am a deprogrammer of people who have been enslaved in various degrees by these forms of ritualistic devil worship that have sprang up within the general body of Christianity(???) and employ/emplore/inform and equip them scripturally to always think and act for themselves for the general betterment of their fellowman. enjoy! smaller

by **St Alex the Foolish** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:28 pm

In the words of the Immortal Archie Bunker, "Whadda loada crappola!!!!!!!!!!!! R.I. readers & posters, get a 66 book bible. Read it. (I know few of you will.) Either way, I maintain, having studied the Bible for years, that "smaller" is a Disinformation Agent of the worst kind. By the way, I also disagree with all the unscriptural, often goofy, and many times, just plain EVIL pronouncements and judgements that are made by our so-called religious leaders of the day. For those of you who want a Biblical reference to the Lake of Fire, do your own search in Revelation and you will find the answer to why it exists and who is going there, according to Jesus the Christ. While my belief commands me to pray for ALL the lost, including "smaller", I don't feel compelled to give the rest of you all the details (& lies) in "smaller's" post. If you want those answers, there are many good Christian web sites for you to read from when your brains get overworked here at R.I. God Bless You All

by **smaller** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:23 pm

And another person who wants to see people burned alive in fire forever by God appears. How magical! not But oh so predictable. Those of you who are not "believers" in this unfortunate modern day form of idol worshipping brainwash by the power elite are fortunate indeed but this is a firsthand example of what is contained in my original post and this example is duplicate able at any time in nearly any location in the world. and the beat goes on... enjoy! smaller

by **Saint Alex the Foolish** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:49 am

No, dear brother smaller, no true Christian wants to see anyone burned alive forever in the Lake of Fire. That is why Jesus the Christ came here to Earth to show any and all who would listen, the way to avoid just that fate. According to the Bible, the Lake of Fire, was prepared ONLY for Satan and his rebelious angels who tried, under the allowed free will of God, to take over the administration and rulership of all creation from the original Creator. Please review ALL the passages in the Holy Bible, Old & New Testaments, which describe the War in Heaven between God and Lucifer (the shining one) which resulted in the banishment from Heaven of Lucifer (now known as Satan, "The Accuser" in Hebrew). When Eve & Adam sinned, by disobeying the ONE caveat of God, not to eat from the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of GOOD and EVIL, God knew that Mankind would need a saviour, Jesus the Christ (Yeshua ben Yahweh, for my Jewish brothers). He was incarnated as an offspring of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary (and, no, I am NOT Catholic & DO NOT worship Mother Mary). According to Holy Scripture, he came here to Earth to live a sinless life, be unjustly accused of Heresy, and DIE, to pay for all the sins of Mankind, so that we, who will accept that payment & belive on Him, should recieve everlasting life. (John 3:16) For the rest of the Rigorous Intuition readers and responders, I HAVE been following ALL of Jeff's posts for about six months now, I know, I know, LATECOMER, but I agree with 99.9 per cent purely (remember the old Ivory Soap commercials?) with what Jeff is purveying/discovering, except I DO actually belive that the UFO/? thingies REALLY are no more nor no less than demons/fallen angels in the service of Satan. That said, I, also didn't come here to R.I. to make converts. It is my studied opinon that most of you who hang out & post here are already totally convinced & convicted Atheists. I hurl no condemnations at those of you who fit this profile. I pray for you, because of who I am, and what I believe. That's right, when I was 18 & 28, I "KNEW" that religion was a "crock". Well, guess what???? I have learned (at age 57) , through many years of Bible study, that "RELIGION" IS a CROCK!!! Similarly to "brother smaller", I have discovered that most of what passes for "religion" today is TOTALLY unscriptural, not Biblical, and misrepresented CRAP!!! PROOF?? O.K., Concerning what I belive from the Bible, I DO NOT IN ANY WAY believe that the following people are CHRISTIANS!!!! 1. Any POPE 2. George W. Bush 3. Any George Bush Appointee 4. Pat Robertson 5. Billy Graham 6. Jerry Falwell 7. Benny Hinn 8. Do You Really Need More Names, because I have plenty!!! That said, I still accuse "smaller" of being a Disinformation Agent because he claims that there is NO Hell for unrepentant, unsaved sinners. According to the Holy Bible, the ONLY reason that unbelieving, unrepentent sinners are going to be consigned to the Lake of Fire (originally prepared for Satan & his angels) is that, since God sent his most BELOVED, and Only Begotten Son to Earth to die for OUR SINS as a Saviour (A Way Out) anyone who REJECTS this sacrifice on their behalf is going to Suffer the same fate that was prepared for Satan & his rebelious angels. Satan sees his job, as opposed to his Creaor, as taking as many of God's mere human little people with him to Hell as he can manage. (See "brother smaller's" foolish post). Sic Transit Goria Munde, but give brother "smaller" his fifteen minutes of fame. May God Bless You All Saint Alex the Foolish Circa Third Millennum, a.D. Also, ANYONE (including myself) who uses God & ANY reference to magic in the same post is DEFNITELY not speaking for the Lord. There are MANY prohibitions in both the Old & New Testaments about having Anything to do with THOSE who have anything to do with people who deal with magic, witches, wizards, familiar spirits, or anyone who professes to "speak for the gods" instead of the Biblical prophets who spoke only for the One True God. Peace on you all. Saint Alex the Foolish Circa Third Millennium a.D,

by **smaller** » Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:03 pm

Hi Andy If you want to debate the merits of my observation and yours you can join me in the fray at TheologyWeb.com in the "Unorthodox Theology 201" section and we can spare these folks from your public presentation of "you can save yourself from God" spiel (as if such a thing were even possible...(chuckle) And btw, I do believe in every eternal torment scripture, just not for people, but you have to know your way around the "document" to actually find the place to love others as you love yourself (called "document" here for those who are not familiar with the terms of the realm.) Don't forget to let me know who you are St. Andrew, kind of...you can send me an email there at the site if you are brave enough to "test" your "faith." My mission, should you choose to accept it, is to prove that it is important to love your neighbors as yourself. Even the unsaved ones. I do not believe any extent of that mission is to shout out to them, SAVE YOURSELF from God or the very God who LOVES YOU will torture you alive in fire forever. Now that's MANipulation of the lowest order and tag, you're it! Yet I also don't hold that evil presentation to your charge nor to the charge of the men you listed in your post, though I may agree somewhat with the surface view conclusion that you arrived at. Like R.I. I scratch and sniff and try not to let my own reflections spook me. You also understand that your message with regards to your fellow man is identical to those people you listed and the Religion that is false and that you decry is also identical to your position. Yikes! I'd be running the other way FAST, but that's me. It is the evil in mankind that makes your presentation. It is the evil in you who speaks when you desire to see other people burned alive in fire forever, and that is exactly the point I was making to R.I. and it is also part of the point of what The Bible is telling us, though the message contained therein is purposely obscured from that very evil that is openly displayed in you for all to see. There is a surface message and then there is a real message for the real people. If you do happen to show up, I'll give you a line by line response to your post and we can, you know, talk about it. In the final analysis if what you have presented is where you are at, then that's where you belong and I'm OK with it, kind of. Just don't peddle your wares around me. Some people have such evil in them that they need to keep it in check with that threat of eternal torment to themselves, but of course you may exempt yourself from the fate you desire for others. go figure. I believe there is Hope and I believe there is evil hype and I don't mix or mistake the two. I also love to read R.I. and recommend it to all of my real friends. You know. People whom I care about. You do have some of those kind of people in your life, right? I do consider it a bit jaded that you would come here and say you love the website, yet in the next breath your position requires you to tell the author that if he does not believe "like you" that he will fry alive forever by God. Whew! Now that's nasty. Do you really think that it's God who taught you to behave like that? What would your mother say? I'd also kinda like to hear you elaborate on why you think UFO's are "real" and why you think they are "demons?" Seen any? Had any "encounters" of the "close kind?" Or have you just taken R.I.'s info and morphed it in with your "doctrines?" enjoy! smaller

by **smaller** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:14 pm

IT was a little startling to see this dissection of encounter steps from Jeff's May thread when I applied his numbers (from Vallee?) to a certain Biblical encounter between Jesus and satan: 1. The candidate is confronted by members of the occult group wearing a special costume. Matthew 4 1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. 2. He is blindfolded. Matthew 4 2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. 3. He is led by the arm through a rough and difficult route. see #1 above (the wilderness) 4. He is taken into a specially designed chamber with no windows and placed in such a way that he can only see part of it. see # 1 above (he lacked i.e. hungered) 5. He is brought in to the presence of a "Master." 6. He is given a test and made to answer questions. This is where it gets really interesting: Matthew 4 3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If (this happened three times during this "test.") 7. He is shown a variety of symbols designed to remind him of death. This also happened 3 times. The symbols that satan tried to deceive Jesus about were also three fold. A. Stones and Bread (which entreat multiple Biblical symbols) B. Personal power C. World power 8. The situation suggests that he may not survive the ordeal. IN the last temptation (#3 above) there is also a veiled threat of death: Matthew 4 8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 9. He is given ritual food or drink. Matthew 4 11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him. 10. He is blindfolded again and led outside.[/quote] I could digress into the subsequent ritualistic slaying of Jesus 3 1/2 years later here, but perhaps another day. These same somewhat similar steps also apply to other Biblical encounters, but of course many others have noted these similarities as well. enjoy! smaller

by **robertdreed** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:39 am

"ANYONE (including myself) who uses God & ANY reference to magic in the same post is DEFNITELY not speaking for the Lord. " It seems to me that it's possible to over-value the simple use of terms here- a semantic confusion, as it were. I simply want to note that I used to sell items on eBay. I noticed that the more ethical and forthright my dealings, the more the way of opportunity opened for me, in ways so uncanny that the word "magic" seemed to apply. I consider myself a Christian, the only "magic" I was employing was simply trying to do my best by my customers, in the course of seeking out goods to- in classic mercantile fashion- "buy low, and sell high." Yet time and again I managed to run across opportunities that netted both a high profit for myself, and a high degree of satisfaction for my customers. But as time went by, my game started falling off. I fell prey to laziness, procrastination, and over-investing money when I needed to take care of my debts. Starry-eyed greed- at a really small-time, petty level, but greed nonetheless. There's really no such thing as a bargain when you're using the money your customers are sending you for shipping as part of the margin to purchase more goods for re-sale! Eventually, I was presented with a choice- either cut corners on my dealing with my customers, or fold my tent due to my lack of ability to preserve my cash flow. The "magic" disappeared. The point I want to make is that someone could easily terms the phenomenon I was describing as "Christian magic." It wouldn't be literally accurate. But neither would it signify the epitome of evil, that someone would use such a phrase to attempt to describe what was going on for them.

by **smaller** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:28 pm

uh, the term magic was used facetiously. The phenom of resistors to love is somewhat predictable. When God's Love is spoken of resistors to same in mankind come out openly to play. Most Christians are actually practicing devil worship particularly when they vaunt their fellow man to be fried alive forever for not believing "like they do." The problem with the "like they do" part is the incredible diversity of what "like they do" may consist of. Christians agree on very little except for their primary belief that the majority of their fellow man is going to be burned alive forever by God. And this then passes for "faith." For some reason that bothers me, particularly when there is so many of these types, but hey, that's just me. I am somewhat thankful that these people remain severely fractured into thousands of groups. IF they coalesced the result would be potentially horrid. When I see GB in the mix I get really nervous. Christianity as the partyline in the US or the world is against my religion...<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> enjoy! smaller

by **Saint Alex the Foolish** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:10 pm

robertdreed, I concur with your use of the word, "magic" in that connotation. However, I do not get the impression that you are attempting to speak for God. I am curious as the why putting Great Britain in the mix would make brother smaller nervous. He certainly couldn't be referring to George Bush, as NO ONE here at R.I. is stupid enough to believe that any of the (presidential) Bush family are Christians. I seriously considered debating brother smaller here, not on a site of his choosing, but decided that he is far too intelligent and educated for me. It comes through loud and clear in his posts, so I retreat in awe. God bless you all. Saint Alex the Foolish Circa Third Millennium, a.D.

by **smaller** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:29 pm

I meant George B. See the US part in that statement? And that site consists mostly of people who believe similarly as you Andy. Similarly means primarily the (non) Christian promotion of eternal human torture in fire by God.

by **Saint Alex the Foolish** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:24 pm

Since no one calling themselves "Andy" has posted on this thread, one is forced to wonder..............???? See why this fellow's well-educated intellect amazes and astounds me into non-debating silence?? Fellow R.I.ers, it still smells like DisInformation to me. Anyone for locking this silly thread? Jeff?? Anyone Else???

by **Saint Alex the Foolish** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:56 pm

Well, since no one has locked the pantry, and there is still one Ho Ho left, I might as well take it. Where, oh where is AnnaLivia when you really need someone FLAMED?? After reading, and re-reading brother smaller's posts, I must ask him the following: Iz Inglish yer sekond langwage ur izzit maybee ur thurd?? Yer grammer, sintax, 'n' kumprehensive thot patturnz reelie sind mie mynd reeelin', rockkin', en runnin' fer my thesaurianus. Eye iz awwed bye ur unflagginn inthusiazam. Ded U gradiate frum pubic skool sumtime afta ninteeen sem'ty? Kno wunder yew iz havvin truble unnerstandin de Bible. Havin sed dat, Ey'm gonna anser uh kwestion u axed erlier. You asked the mysterious "Andy" the question, "What would your mother say". I belive that Andy's mother, who, by the way, has probably shuffled off this mortal coil, would say the following: "Son, never try to argue with an asshole, because an asshole has no ears." Peace All Over You and Anyone Who Thinks Like You! SMALLER, WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT READ THIS POST!!!! IT CONTAINS A MIND CONTROL VIRUS WHICH WILL LAUNCH ITSELF THROUGH YOUR COMPUTER SCREEN AND BURN OUT YOUR BRAIN!!!!!! OH, DARN, YOU READ IT, DIDN'T YOU?? DANG IT ALL TO HECK!!!

by **smaller** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:44 am

Just giving you another easy opportunity to jump on me Al. See how easy it is to win? Just pick on the weak parts.

by **Saint Alex the Foolish** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:12 pm

Brother smaller, just so you can't accuse me of subterfuge, (that's French for "Under the Fridge"), I'm letting you, and the rest of R.I. know that for future posts (NOT ON THIS THREAD), I'm going to sign in as "Floyd Smoots". The first R.I.er who can OUT that nom de guerre is welcome to purchase, at Wally World.com as many reruns of "Petticoat Junction" or "Green Acres" as their credit card companies, or their stomachs, will allow, before maxing out or hurking. In other words, Brother smaller, peace out, God Bless, and live long & prosper. You're just no fun to twit anymore. BUT, at the end of it all, are you trying to "win" converts for Jesus, or just trying to justify your heresy by calling yourself a "Christian"? This thread is DONE FOR if you expect anymore replies from me. If you're fortunate, maybe one of the more erudite (where's my dictionary?) posters will jump in and help you to keep it alive. Saya, Nora!!! Bye-Bye!!!!

by **smaller** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:12 pm

Thanks for the entertainment Al. Don't forget to proclaim my forthcoming torture in fire for eternity by God (Al?) on the way out the door.