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the '23' movie

Postby yesferatu » Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:26 pm

<<‘THE NUMBER 23’
Mystical figure interests actor
Sunday, February 18, 2007
Cindy Pearlman
NEW YORK TIMES SYNDICATE

In the mood for something new, Jim Carrey seems especially receptive to all things "23."

The actor stars in The Number 23, a thriller that will open, appropriately, on Feb. 23.

Carrey plays Walter, a suburban father and dogcatcher leading a normal life until the day his wife (Virginia Madsen) buys a strange book, written anonymously, about the number 23.

Suddenly their lives start falling apart, careening into mayhem and murder.

Walter even looks different from any previous Carrey character, with long, dark hair and a large, creepy, gothic tattoo.

Actually, he says, the idea isn’t so different from those of most other Carrey movies, which are usually weird. It’s simply weird in a different way.

"I loved this character, Walter, because he’s the ultimate family guy," says Carrey, 45. "He’s a guy who just wants to have a normal life. He’s most of us who just want things to be stable. But, like most of us, Walter is in denial. I think that we’re all in a constant state of denial about the fact that we live on plates of rock that are floating through an unknown universe."

The fact that a simple number causes Walter’s universe to go berserk isn’t as bizarre as it sounds. There are those who think that there is something mystical about the number 23.

"A friend of mine in Canada handed it down to me because he saw it everywhere," Carrey says. "Then he gave me a book of 23 phenomena, which listed all the strange dates and odd occurrences. I thought he was crazy. But then I started seeing 23 everywhere.

"It entered my life in a big way," he says. "Suddenly I started driving all of my friends crazy."

Then someone mentioned Psalm 23, the Biblical poem with the passage "The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want. . . . Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil."

"It’s basically about living without fear and knowing that you’re taken care of," Carrey says.

Suddenly things made sense to Carrey, to such an extent that he even changed the name of his production company from Pitbull Productions to JC23.

"I was on the Net talking to someone about changing the name of my company to JC23," Carrey recalls, "and my friend talked about that psalm. . . . about the ‘valley of the shadow of death.’ At the same time, another friend walked into my office with a newspaper . . . that had a big headline that read, ‘Death Valley Blooms.’ It was the first time in 100 years that it did bloom because of extraordinary rain. Those seeds were waiting for 100 years.

"I thought: ‘How fitting. I think I’m on a weird and special journey here,’ " Carrey says.

Then he got a phone call that turned things a little spooky.

"I was explaining this company-name change to another friend," the actor says, "and he said: ‘That’s funny. I just wrote a script about the number 23.’ I was totally freaked out. The first page of the script had me as this animal catcher capturing a pit bull. I went from Pitbull Productions to JC23, and the reason was not lost on me.

"The writer even told me to turn to the 23 rd page in his script and then asked me to start circling every 23 rd word on that page. It was written like a code that was really cool."

Carrey has a folder of pictures he took to document "23 incidents."

"I took these with my camera phone," Carrey says. "Look, here’s a tow truck from when my car broke down, with a 23 on the side. It’s the 23 rd truck in their fleet. I got the driver to take a picture of me with it. Look at the car in front of us in the picture. He has a 23 on his license plate.

"When I got to the hotel room here," he continues, "I was put in Room 1223. I look out my terrace, and the awning across the street is for the address 323. And then I ordered some breakfast, and there was a 23 written on my pancakes.

"OK, I made the last one up," he says, laughing. "But the rest is true, and it’s eerie and freaky."

In a separate interview, director Joel Schumacher offers his own "23 incident," from the day he agreed to make the film.

"I was brushing my teeth afterward thinking, ‘It will be my 20 th movie if I do it, and I wish it were my 23 rd,’ " he recalls. "But then I thought, ‘What about those two TV movies? So this is your 23 rd job.’ I couldn’t wait for the next morning to call Jim and tell him about it."

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http://www.dispatch.com/features-story.php?story=dispatch/2007/02/18/20070218-D1-03.html
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:28 am

these people read too much RAW (rip no in hilarity)
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Ech.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:37 pm

The usual suspects: superstition, coincidence, 'fate.'

The denial of rational cause and effect = mind control.

I despise Hollywood and their 'backers.'
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Age.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:06 pm

The most common goal of spook movies is military recruiting.

So '23' is the first year of age after college to think about....joining DoD or CIA.
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Re: Age.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:17 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:The most common goal of spook movies is military recruiting.

So '23' is the first year of age after college to think about....joining DoD or CIA.


I was right. I found an article about recruiting research which found out that there are three ages when young males consider joining up, really two ages with a variation--

>at 16 for white boys, 17 for boys of color
>again at 22.

Why? Beginning of high school and then the end of college.
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bit of a smear IMO

Postby chillin » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:59 am

If there's any nasty motivation behind it, making people interested in RAW, Burroughs, the Discordians, the Sub-Geniuses and Tim Leary look like psychopathic murderers would be the obvious choice. Also associating the writing/philosophies of the above with death and insanity might be a possibility. Same for anyone who doesn't appear/think normal. CONFORM DAMMIT!

I read the plot outline on Wiki, there's a Dr. Sirius Leary in it lol. Probably all kinds of other 'subtle' references, think I'll watch it.
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Postby chillin » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:38 pm

Posted that at 9:59... :shock:
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hmm

Postby chillin » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:44 am

I watched it the other night and found it to be very well done. It's packed with symbolism (practically every scene) and weirdness. The protagonist is a dog catcher, his dispatcher is named Sybil. When Carey finds the book and starts narrating, it sounds like a classic trance induction. I think some people would find the movie disturbing.

To me the main message of the film is something about fatalism vs. free will. The film could just as easily be interpreted as a promotion the work of RAW, etc... no such thing as bad publicity as they say.
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Re: hmm

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:19 pm

chillin wrote:I watched it the other night...


You watched it? Than that makes you different from the vast majority of people who only know this film as the title and poster image.

And that's where most movie psy-ops action happens since few actually sit through it.

The advertising is perpetuated when a video sits on the rental shelf like a little billboard.
Even when nobody rents it, there it is.

There's enough money in the movie biz to actually do this, make a movie just to get the keywords out in pop culture to reinforce a subtext.
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Re: hmm

Postby chillin » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:57 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:You watched it? Than that makes you different from the vast majority of people who only know this film as the title and poster image...


That's why my 1st impression was that it was a smear, Carrey looks freaked out and dangerous on the cover.
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Sinbad

Postby chillin » Fri Nov 23, 2007 1:30 pm

Hey y'know who features prominently in Dreamworks' Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas? Eris! Voice done by Michelle Pfieffer. This writeup warns that:

Some viewers may consider Eris a bit too slinky and seductive.


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I think I may need some alone time with this rental... :twisted:

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Re: Age.

Postby orz » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:42 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:The denial of rational cause and effect


Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:The most common goal of spook movies is military recruiting.

So '23' is the first year of age after college to think about....joining DoD or CIA.


Irony.
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Postby chillin » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:19 am

Media Barrage #23 (religious propaganda)
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