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Postby undead » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:37 am

TIRED OF SPEAKING SWEETLY

Love wants to reach out and manhandle us,
Break all our teacup talk of God.

If you had the courage and
Could give the Beloved His choice, some nights,
He would just drag you around the room
By your hair,
Ripping from your grip all those toys in the world
That bring you no joy.

Love sometimes gets tired of speaking sweetly
And wants to rip to shreds
All your erroneous notions of truth

That make you fight within yourself, dear one,
And with others,

Causing the world to weep
On too many fine days.

God wants to manhandle us,
Lock us inside of a tiny room with Himself
And practice His dropkick.

The Beloved sometimes wants
To do us a great favor:

Hold us upside down
And shake all the nonsense out.

But when we hear
He is in such a “playful drunken mood”
Most everyone I know
Quickly packs their bags and hightails it
Out of town.

~ Hafiz ~
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Re: positive thoughts thread

Postby undead » Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:23 am

Inability to accept the mystic experience is more than an intellectual handicap, lack of awareness of the basic unity of organism and environment is a serious and dangerous hallucination.

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Postby vanlose kid » Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:01 am

Once, the people of The City invited Mulla Nasruddin to deliver a sermon.
When he got on the pulpit, he found the audience was not very enthusiastic, so he asked "Do you know what I am going to say?"
The audience replied "NO", so he announced "I have no desire to speak to people who don't even know what I will be talking about" and he left.
The people felt embarrassed and called him back again the next day. This time when he asked the same question, the people replied "YES".
So Mullah Nasruddin said, "Well, since you already know what I am going to say, I won't waste any more of your time" and he left.

Now the people were really perplexed. They decided to try one more time and once again invited the Mullah to speak the following week.
Once again he asked the same question - "Do you know what I am going to say?"
Now the people were prepared and so half of them answered "YES" while the other half replied "NO".

So Mullah Nasruddin said "The half who know what I am going to say, tell it to the other half" and he left!

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A certain man asked Mullah Nasruddin, "What is the meaning of fate, Mullah Nasruddin ?"
"Assumptions," Mullah Nasruddin replied.
"In what way?" the man asked again.
Mullah Nasruddin looked at him and said, "You assume things are going to go well, and they don't - that you call bad luck.
You assume things are going to go badly and they don't - that you call good luck.
You assume that certain things are going to happen or not happen - and you so lack intuition that you don't know what is going to happen.
You assume that the future is unknown. When you are caught out - you call that Fate."

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Mullah Nasruddin and his wife came home one day to find the house burgled. Everything portable had been taken away.
"It's all your fault," said his wife, "for you should have made sure that the house was locked before we left."

The Neighbors took up the chant: "You did not lock the windows," said one.
"Why did you not expect this?" said another.
"The locks were faulty and you did not replace them," said a third.

"Just a moment," said Nasruddin, "surely I am not the only one to blame?"
"And who should we blame?" they shouted.
"What about the thieves?" said Nasruddin. "Are they totally innocent?"

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"Teach them to think. Work against the government." – Wittgenstein.
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Postby Canadian_watcher » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:46 pm

So shall we come to look at the world with new eyes. It shall answer the endless inquiry of the intellect, — What is truth? and of the affections, — What is good? by yielding itself passive to the educated Will. ... Build, therefore, your own world. As fast as you conform your life to the pure idea in your mind, that will unfold its great proportions. A correspondent revolution in things will attend the influx of the spirit - emerson
Satire is a sort of glass, wherein beholders do generally discover everybody's face but their own.-- Jonathan Swift

When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him. -- Jonathan Swift
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Postby norton ash » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:01 pm

Though we travel the world over to find the beautiful, we must carry it with us or we find it not. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Re: positive thoughts thread

Postby vanlose kid » Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:52 pm

CONVERSATION WITH A DEAD PHILOSOPHER

When I was dead
one day I met
a visiting philosopher.
I found him walking on the curb
at a busy street
looking into the gutter.
We stood and talked--
and he told me right off
that he was not the one who once
talked so long with Emily Dickinson;
and most certainly
he was not the one who died for truth.
He was killed by a car
while in the street
looking for french-fries
and other greasy bits thrown by people
who ate while they were driving.
For this was a crow who was talking here,
a philosopher crow,
and I had never even heard
of such a thing before;
twenty inches long or so
from beak tip to tail's end,
and entirely black.
Well, I said, if you did not die for truth,
you must have lived for it:
you surely searched the world for truth
while you were at your occupation.
No such thing as that, he said.
When I was young I looked a while for truth,
but soon I learned to look for bugs
and tasty things along the curb.
That's the sort of thing you did
because you are a crow.
I meant to ask what had you done
in being a philosopher.
Did you stand for something
in that work?
Oh yes, I found that I could
show a thing that needed showing
by just appearing as myself, a crow.
A good way to teach the world, I found,
was just to be myself--
to be, that is, a plain philosophizing crow.
It made the human people stop
and wonder what to think,
wonder
could they understand
a thing I said to them.
People know that crows can talk
as they know that parrots, too,
can talk.
When people hear me then
they wonder
do I talk the way a parrot does.
Is my talk no more than
polly-want-a-cracker?
Or do I talk
the way a crow says "caw" sometimes.
Just to make
a raucous noise?
Or is it that I say my say
the way the clock says half past two?
The clock can't tell you what it says
the way a human tells you.
Maybe I am just a mess of gears and wheels,
and everything I say
is just like half past two--
where I can't tell you
what I say at all.
People stopped and puzzled when I talked,
wondered what to make of
anything I said.
And if I made them ask themselves
What of heads or tails to make
of a philosopher's talking,
that was a good thing I did,
I would say.
Yes, I would say that.
Then he flew away,
calling "caw-caw."

From: Frank Ebersole: Many Times a Year (Acheron Press, 1983);
slightly revised by the author in 2003.

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Re: positive thoughts thread

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:55 am

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"There is no exquisite beauty without some strangeness in the proportion." Edgar Allen Poe

I can see the irony in quoting Poe in an Optimistic Thoughts thread, but he was right enough. Without this strangeness in the proportion of things there might be nothing of truly remarkable beauty or worth in the world. The terrible stuff makes the good stuff valuable. In a way.

I like to pretend that that's an optimistic thought sometimes.
"The universe is 40 billion light years across and every inch of it would kill you if you went there. That is the position of the universe with regard to human life."
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