Best superhero movie I ever saw.

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Best superhero movie I ever saw.

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:06 pm

Watched "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo" (Sweden, 2009) last night.

(I dunno, is the following a spoiler? Actually, it is, so stop reading and just rent this movie. Although this being RI I should add: TRIGGERS!)



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It's actually a heavily-RI themed, harrowing thriller about serial rapists in very high positions of power, old money bastards, arms dealers and banksters (plus an ugly abusive petty bureaucrat). For the English translation they changed the title of the Swedish novel on which it's based; the original is called "Men Who Hate Women." (The author died in 2004, his "Dragon Girl" trilogy unpublished. It is now a posthumous international bestseller. Just his fucking luck, I guess.) Despite the very dark and gritty material and realist style, the movie employs most of the familiar superhero tropes and plot stations with original vitality and edge-of-your-seat tension. (The Hollywood remakes are underway, but they will suck because they're never going to do it as dark as the Swedes, and they'll never resist turning the fights into 20 minutes of Matrix ultraviolence, and no way will they let such a complicated plot unfold without lots and lots of dead-air exposition. And of course they're going to stick some stars in it.)


(Stop reading if you don't want spoilers!!!)


A horrible childhood trauma prompts the origin of a lone, secretive dark-knight vigilante with tech and fighting skills and even a sort of batcave, who avoids cops and relentlessly battles the worst men in the world, pursuing both justified personal vengeance as well as further-ranging interventions to save the good people and put an end to the bad among men.





The narrative only gradually reveals itself as all this, and starts out with "the Alfred" as the apparent protagonist, which is one of the things that made it very effective for me. There's a lot more to it, actually, it's more than a superhero movie, but it really gave me the thrill that a superhero movie should (if only any of them were ever any good).

Here's a counterpunch write-up on the novels:

http://www.counterpunch.org/larson08192010.html

Stieg Larsson's Millennium Trilogy
Sweden's Sexual Dystopia

By CHARLES R. LARSON

All right, I confess. I’ve spent a major part of the last month reading Stieg Larsson’s Millennium Trilogy: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Girl Who Played with Fire, and The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet’s Nest. I’m not the only person with this confession. The novels—especially the first and third volumes—are addictive. I’d call the books one lengthy novel published in three installments. I use “installments” intentionally because, in their elaborate, skillful plotting, Larsson’s novels resemble nineteenth-century Victorian blockbusters published serially--that is, in installments. Each section of those intricately plotted novels (think of Charles Dickens’ major fiction) ended with a cliff-hanger so that readers would be compelled to purchase the next episode.

Such elaborate structuring made the books addictive in the same way that contemporary readers have responded to the three Millennium volumes--barely able to wait for the publication of the second and third volumes if they read them not as I did (in one fell swoop) but spread over two years.

And then what happens next? That question is also applicable to each individual volume. You reach a stage where the reading becomes compulsive; you have to know what happens next. All of this is a rather elaborate way of saying that I admire Larsson’s imagination, his gift for elaborate plotting, his juggling of a large cast of characters in each novel, and then, finally, his bringing almost all of them back into the action for the denouement of each volume. He’s a master of suspense, of timing.

All three volumes of the trilogy sit at the top of best seller lists not only in the United States but around the world because most readers want to be entertained, surprised, frightened, titillated, perhaps even shocked--and there are plenty of these qualities in the three volumes. Extending the Dickensian parallels a little further takes me to a second reason for the popularity of Larsson’s novels: their social commentary. Just as Dickens wrote about economic, class, and gender inequality, so does his modern counterpart—especially with regard to the subjects of exploitation of women and conservative/right-wing bigotry and excess.

Most readers are unaware that the Swedish titles of Larsson’s novels have been sanitized by translation. We need to know the literal translations of the original titles to understand the full intent of the writer’s concerns. Män som hatar kvinnor translates as Men Who Hate Women and not The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. The Girl Who Played with Fire is a literal translation of Flicken som lekte med elder. However, the third volume, Luftslottet Som Sprägdes, translates literally as The Air Castle That Blew Up, not The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet’s Nest.

The mistranslation of the first volume is the most revealing. Given the sexual brutalities inflicted on women in Larsson’s novels, it’s no surprise that so many female readers around the world can identify not only with Lisbeth Salander but with other female characters in the initial volume. In all three of the volumes, women are raped, tortured, violently abused, and murdered—victims of men who often live “normal” public lives but secretly can only be regarded as sadistic and demented, sexually disturbed predators and stalkers. Again, Dickens is informative here. Orlick in Dickens’ Great Expectations appears to exist in the novel solely to inflict physical pain on women. He silences Pip’s older sister by knocking her over the head with a hammer. He terrorizes Biddy and finally almost murders Pip to cover up his crimes. He’s a one-man reign of terror in Dickens’s masterpiece.

If the men in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo are more violent and more sadistic than Dickens’ Orlick, it is simply because they have at their hands lethal modern instruments and resources for inflicting pain on women. Gottfried and Martin Vanger (father and son) are serial killers of women and the direct cause of Harriett Vanger’s disappearance. Nils Bjurman rapes and tortures Lisbeth Salander. These three men and a series of other minor characters—all male—brutalize, rape, and murder women and derive sadistic pleasure from their acts, committed largely with impunity. The novel is replete with statistics documenting the physical abuse of women in Sweden, women who—in Larsson’s story—become disposable objects. (“Forty-six percent of the women of Sweden have been subjected to violence by a man.”

Or, “Thirteen percent of the women in Sweden have been subjected to aggravated sexual assault outside of a sexual relationship.” Or, “Ninety-two percent of the women in Sweden who have been subjected to sexual assault have not reported the most recent violent incident to the police.”)
Sweden has no monopoly on the abuse of women. The August 6, 2010, issue of The Washington Post contains a half-page advertisement initialed by “AK” and “MC,” who are identified as “Survivors of Craigslist Sex Trafficking.”

They are attempting to expose the advertisements on Craigslist’s Adult Services which, they say, generate $36 million in income yearly from sexual exploitation and trafficking of women. Larsson’s three novels provide multiple examples of women who were trafficked sexually and then disposed of by murder. Worldwide, there are plenty of men who hate women and who perpetrate upon them the most despicable acts, after which presumably--like Nazi torturers during the Holocaust—they return home and have an evening meal with their families and play with their children. Rape, murder, and sexual exploitation are rampant in much of the world—not only in Sweden but in other European countries as well, the United States, the Middle East, Africa, Latin America, and Asia.

Men do the most despicable things to women because they know they probably won’t get caught.: rapes in Congo and South Africa, and in much of the rest of the African continent; women ritually circumcised or stoned to death in Muslim countries; infertile women disfigured by their husbands in India; women trafficked around the world—mostly for the sadistic pleasure of men. Is it any surprise that Larsson’s novels are avidly consumed by women readers? Is it any surprise that Lisbeth Salander—denied help by official government agencies—is regarded as one strong woman willing to fight back, to get legitimate revenge against her abusers?

Larsson’s novels do not show Sweden as a sexual utopia, but a dystopia. Few characters are particularly content with their relationships. There are few conventional marriages. When Mikael Blomkvist is asked why he isn’t married, he replies that the woman he is in love with is married to someone else. Somewhere in his forties, he is well-known for his sexual exploits. Erika Berger has worked out a relationship with her husband so that she can sleep with Blomkvist when she wants. It is also revealed that Erika has enjoyed enjoys sex with two men at the same time. Lisbeth Salander is bisexual, as are several other characters. I cite these examples because there are more instances of sexual fluidity than constancy in the novels. I have no statistics regarding marriages in Sweden and their longevity, but I remember that Sweden was one of the first Western countries to permit pornography to be produced and disseminated legally.

Fuse this sexual openness with political self-righteousness and the result is the strange assumption that government bureaucracies and regulations—and watchdog organizations in general--can do no good. By the end of the third volume, the narrative is absolutely clear about the abuse of power within Sweden’s secret service. Salander was locked up for years in order to cover up the defection to Sweden of a high-level Russian spy at the end of the Cold War. While reading Larsson’s trilogy, I was simultaneously re-reading Denis Johnson’s prize-winning novel, Tree of Smoke (2007), which concerns a clandestine or rogue element within the CIA during our war in Vietnam. Whether Johnson’s story is fact or fiction, there are widespread suspicions about high level illegal activities within many governments.

Rendition, incarceration, the torture of prisoners—there are enough known examples of questionable government actions during the Bush administration’s rush into war with Iraq to keep historians busy for years. Larsson himself, as the editor of Expo, spent much of his life exposing anti-democratic, right-wing extremism and Nazi organizations in Sweden. As with his protagonist, Mikael Blomkvist, the threats on his life were not imaginary but real. Moreover, according to a fascinating revelation by Kurdo Baski, one of his co-editors at Expo, Larsson had a second, personal reason for writing the three Millennium novels. In an article published in the Daily Mail in the United Kingdom, Baski reveals that Larsson confessed that at age fifteen, he “watched three friends rape a girl, also called Lisbeth,” who was the same age and someone he knew. “But he didn’t intervene. His loyalty to his friends was too strong.”

Baski continues, “It was inevitable that he would realize afterwards that he could have acted and possibly prevented the rape. Haunted by feelings of guilt, he contacted the girl a few days later. When he begged her to forgive him for his cowardice and passivity, she told him bitterly that she could not accept his explanations. ‘I shall never forgive you,’ she said, gritting her teeth.” Baski’s article--titled “How a Brutal Rape and a Lifelong Burden of guilt fuelled Girl with the Dragon Tattoo writer Stieg Larsson”—concludes, “For three years, I have been trying to trace the identity of this girl and the boys who raped her but I have been unable to find any of them. I have contacted old friends of Stieg’s and searched through records but the trail has run cold. It seems as if one of the most disturbing but tantalizing incidents of Stieg’s life will for ever remain a mystery.”

Sadly, Larsson died at fifty, in 2004, before the publication of any of these novels. One wonders if he would be surprised by the phenomenal success of his work, including the Swedish film adaptations of the three novels. The first two films which have been released in the United States are impressive renditions of his work. Though also as visually violent as his novels are on the printed page, they are, in fact, so good that one wonders why Hollywood has decided to remake them. My prediction? They won’t be as good as the Swedish versions, and they will also lose something in translation.

Stieg Larsson: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, The Girl Who Played with Fire, The Girl Who Kicked the Hornet’s Nest.
Translated by Reg Keeland
Various editions: Knopf and Vintage

Charles R. Larson is Professor of Literature at American University, in Washington, D.C. He cannot read or speak Swedish but is probably distantly related to Stieg Larsson (aren’t we all?)

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Re: Best superhero movie I ever saw.

Postby jingofever » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:51 pm

JackRiddler wrote:(The Hollywood remakes are underway, but they will suck because they're never going to do it as dark as the Swedes, and they'll never resist turning the fights into 20 minutes of Matrix ultraviolence, and no way will they let such a complicated plot unfold without lots and lots of dead-air exposition. And of course they're going to stick some stars in it.)

Coming out tomorrow, the Hollywood version of Let the Right One In.

Producer Simon Oakes has made it clear that the plot of Let Me In will closely resemble that of the original film, except that it will be made "very accessible to a wider audience."

The American version of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is going to be directed by David Fincher, so it may turn out well. Anyway, yes, it was a fine movie. I saw it recently and was surprised that there wasn't much discussion about it here. I saw The Ghost Writer more recently. That would be of interest around here too and not just because it was directed by an "elite pedophile". Even more recently I saw The Falcon and the Snowman. The writer for that did the screenplay for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
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Re: Best superhero movie I ever saw.

Postby norton ash » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:30 am

recent Larsson-Dragon Tattoo RI thread:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=28882&p=348922&hilit=Larsson#p348922

The Ghost Writer was grrreat.
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Re: Best superhero movie I ever saw.

Postby Project Willow » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:25 am

Thoroughly enjoyed the revenge scene (in between covering my eyes), and the movie in general (in between covering my eyes).
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Re: Best superhero movie I ever saw.

Postby Penguin » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:03 pm

norton ash wrote:recent Larsson-Dragon Tattoo RI thread:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=28882&p=348922&hilit=Larsson#p348922

The Ghost Writer was grrreat.


I liked it too. Just recently watched it, alone one night in my comfy chair (its at least three-quarters of a century old comfy chair to boot, mind you).

Havent watched Larssons movie yet, thou with them swedes being right next door Ive watched a lot of swedish movies and dramas over the years - like all the Wallanders. Swedes are much like us finns when it comes to screenplays, only slightly more sophisticated, a bit more european, and a bit less depressing :)

What I can never understand is making "american versions" of popular movies. Like, say, The Departed - never mind if its good or not, its just weird. Or do they not have subtitles in foreign movies? Can't they read?

"The girl with the dragon tattoo" is part of a trilogy (just "obtaining" it, snicker) -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Trilogy ... Ill comment when Ive watched them.
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Re: Best superhero movie I ever saw.

Postby TheDuke » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:05 am

To be honest I thought it was an horrific film. I felt there was pleasure taken in the depictions of violence. I haven't read the books so I can't compare.
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Re: Best superhero movie I ever saw.

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:10 am

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Best superhero movie I ever saw.

Postby TheDuke » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:26 am

seemslikeadream wrote:


Not sure if your video was for my benefit, but I maintain that the film was 'off'. I don't give a shit if it had an anti-fascist message, I thought it reveled in its depiction of sexual violence.
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