Nostalgia isn't what it used to be

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Nostalgia isn't what it used to be

Postby Stephen Morgan » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:10 pm

I've just moved house, due to the whim of my former landlord being that I be evicted, and hence I now live somewhere else with a different interweb connection. Amongst other things this means I now have an NNTP server connection, so I installed slrn and went back onto the Usenet. Due to the unpleasantness of Google Groups, formerly Yahoo Groups, formerly Deja News, I hadn't ventured from my favourite group on Usenet in many years and had only gone there intermittently, so I search for my old self on Google Groups to see what groups I used to be on. Turns out they're all dead, more or less. Even alt.shenanigans, which I stopped reading because of the volume of posts is now completely dead. No posts in years, possibly excepting some spam, at alt.dont.get.even.get.odd, alt.chips.salt.n.vinegar, alt.startrek.vs.babylon5, and so on. All the rage when I were young, were Usenet. Now Ubuntu doesn't even come with a pre-installed Usenet client while you can set your Facebook status from the toolbar.

That's another thing, when I were young Linux were something different to how it is now. Slackware, I used back then. Red Hat was the most popular. X-Windows wasn't around, or at least it was only in beta. And the websites I used to look at, they're all gone now. The Rockall Times, nessie's sfbg page, even all those mad right wing conspiracy theory websites.

I feel like a Christian c. 200AD: who are all these people? They weren't at the last service. Where were you during the last persecution? Fed to a bear was my wife, what you lost for standing up for Jesus? Gave ten per cent of your last business deal to the poor? Just what the poor need is that, a dozen amphorae of olives and half a crate of purple. That's my seat! Get out my pew!
Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible. -- Lawrence of Arabia
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Re: Nostalgia isn't what it used to be

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:42 am

Oh, you and your new fangled views on nostalgia...
I remember back in my day that I didnt have TIME for nostalgia, except over the Christmas Dinner, when Socks was just something on our feet and the words 'Open Source' would be greeted with my deaf Gran shouting "Do you want stuffing as well, love"?
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Re: Nostalgia isn't what it used to be

Postby justdrew » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:50 pm

Searcher08 wrote:Oh, you and your new fangled views on nostalgia...
I remember back in my day that I didnt have TIME for nostalgia, except over the Christmas Dinner, when Socks was just something on our feet and the words 'Open Source' would be greeted with my deaf Gran shouting "Do you want stuffing as well, love"?


and/or: open sores was what the kids had on their backs from lugging coal.

usenet? I still barely remember fidonet!
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Re: Nostalgia isn't what it used to be

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:56 am

Stephen Morgan wrote:alt.dont.get.even.get.odd, alt.chips.salt.n.vinegar, alt.startrek.vs.babylon5, and so on. All the rage when I were young, were Usenet.


I remember when all that were just Fields.

To be honest, I'm glad I came to the internet quite late - 2006, it was, if I remember right, before I had my own reliable connection. There are benefits to being a later convert. Not only do I still get surprised by things (not always pleasantly) but it lets me have a more romantic (I mean, bigoted) view of the early days.

For instance, far as I'm concerned, BBSes were just a way for defence research scientists to exchange bizarre porn with each other, and Usenet had only one real user - Mike Corley. It doesn't really matter that both these things are provably false, and can be contradicted by millions of people who were online at the time - it's internet history now, as learned by a n00b.

Of course, the old bedroom games coders hung out on Usenet and BBSes as well - Derek Smart, Cleve Blakemore, David Braben, Ian Bell. Glorious maniacs, to a man. There were no women online in those days. I bet Steve Jackson and Ian Livingstone hung out on there as well, running text adventures. The thought of that both excites and scares me (but mainly excites, if I'm honest).

Anyways, glad I didn't get the internet till 2006, because I've done fuck all of any worth since.
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