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scientific reason why gold = money throughout history

Postby operator kos » Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:35 pm

This didn't seem important enough to put in General Discussion, but I found it interesting:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/11/18/131430755/a-chemist-explains-why-gold-beat-out-lithium-osmium-einsteinium?sc=fb&cc=fp

The periodic table lists 118 different chemical elements. And yet, for thousands of years, humans have really, really liked one of them in particular: gold. Gold has been used as money for millennia, and its price has been going through the roof.

Why gold? Why not osmium, lithium, or ruthenium?

We went to an expert to find out: Sanat Kumar, a chemical engineer at Columbia University. We asked him to take the periodic table, and start eliminating anything that wouldn't work as money.

The periodic table looks kind of like a bingo card. Each square has a different element in it — one for carbon, another for gold, and so on.

Sanat starts with the far-right column of the table. The elements there have a really appealing characteristic: They're not going to change. They're chemically stable.

But there's also a big drawback: They're gases. You could put all your gaseous money in a jar, but if you opened the jar, you'd be broke. So Sanat crosses out the right-hand column.

Then he swings over to the far left-hand column, and points to one of the elements there: Lithium

"If you expose lithium to air, it will cause a huge fire that can burn through concrete walls," he says.


Money that spontaneously bursts into flames is clearly a bad idea. In fact, you don't want your money undergoing any kind of spontaneous chemical reactions. And it turns out that a lot of the elements in the periodic table are pretty reactive.

Not all of them burst into flames. But sometimes they corrode, start to fall apart.

So Sanat crosses out another 38 elements, because they're too reactive.

Then we ask him about those two weird rows at the bottom of the table. They're always broken out separately from the main table, and they have some great names — promethium, einsteinium.

But it turns out they’re radioactive — put some einsteinium in your pocket, and a year later, you’ll be dead.

So we’re down from 118 elements to 30, and we’ve come up with a list of three key requirements:

1. Not a gas.
2. Doesn’t corrode or burst into flames
3. Doesn’t kill you.

Now Sanat adds a new requirement: You want the thing you pick to be rare. This lets him cross off a lot of the boxes near the top of the table, because the elements clustered there tend to be more abundant.

At the same time, you don’t want to pick an element that’s too rare. So osmium — which apparently comes to earth via meteorites — gets the axe.

That leaves us with just five elements: rhodium, palladium, silver, platinum and gold. And all of them, as it happens, are considered precious metals.

But even here we can cross things out. Silver has been widely used as money, of course. But its reactive — it tarnishes. So Sanat says it’s not the best choice.

Early civilizations couldn’t have used rhodium or palladium, because they weren’t discovered until the early 1800s.

That leaves platinum and gold, both of which can be found in rivers and streams.

But if you were in the ancient world and wanted to make platinum coins, you would have needed some sort of magic furnace from the future. The melting point for platinum is over 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

Gold happens to melt at a much lower temperature, which made it much easier for pre-industrial people to work with.

So we ask Sanat: If we could run the clock back and start history again, could things go a different way, or would gold emerge again as the element of choice?

"For the earth, with every parameter we have, gold is the sweet spot," he says. "It would come out no other way."

Today of course, we don't use gold as money; we use paper. It doesn't kill you, but it can be found in abundance and has an annoying tendency to burn when it comes into contact with a flame.

In a future story, we’ll explain how we came to use paper money instead of gold.
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Re: scientific reason why gold = money throughout history

Postby nathan28 » Tue Nov 23, 2010 12:44 am

I hope this guy is a good chemical engineer with a Ron Paul bumper sticker, because I can't see much of a future for him save as Mythbuster's Resident Crackpot Historical Theorist.


Some wiki-"facts":

Coinage of India, issued by Imperial dynasties and smaller middle kingdoms of India began during the 1st millennium BC, and consisted mainly of copper and silver coins in its initial stage


Until the 19th century, coins denominated in wén were cast, the most common formation being the round-shaped copper coin with a square or circular hole in the centre


Most common is the small bronze coinage of between 5-25 mm in diameter


The coinage of the Roman Republic started with a few silver coins apparently devised for trade with the Greek colonies in Southern Italy, and heavy cast bronze pieces for use in Central Italy.


Cowrie shells are found in archaeological excavations that date back to the Shang era (2nd millennium BCE



Oh, wait... he said it himself!

But even here we can cross things out. Silver has been widely used as money, of course. But its reactive — it tarnishes. So Sanat says it’s not the best choice.


Silver has been widely used as money


Silver has been widely used as money




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Re: scientific reason why gold = money throughout history

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:01 am

operator kos wrote:This didn't seem important enough to put in General Discussion, but I found it interesting:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2010/11/18/131430755/a-chemist-explains-why-gold-beat-out-lithium-osmium-einsteinium?sc=fb&cc=fp

The periodic table lists 118 different chemical elements. And yet, for thousands of years, humans have really, really liked one of them in particular: gold. Gold has been used as money for millennia, and its price has been going through the roof.

Why gold? Why not osmium, lithium, or ruthenium?


All the way through, I was shouting "'Cos they weren't discovered yet!" But the article covered that.

I still think the universality of sun worship, and the resemblance of gold to the sun, had something to do with it, though.

operator kos wrote:Today of course, we don't use gold as money; we use paper. It doesn't kill you


There's some controversy over that. Apparently the inks used in paper money, and till receipts, contain bisphenol A, a hormone disruptor, which can "shift the balance of the sex hormones in men towards oestrogen," according to Professor Frank Sommers. Or so I read. It's unproven, but there's some evidence that high exposure to BPA can cause sexual dysfunction in men, and presumably, sterility. So it might not kill the present generation, but it could stop the next one from appearing, which is still pretty deadly.

operator kos wrote:In a future story, we’ll explain how we came to use paper money instead of gold.


Please do. This is an interesting subject, Kos, thanks for it. Even in our supposedly rational and scientific culture, monetary value is still measured by things that are demonstrably not the most valuable of their kind. There must be reasons, other than the difficulties of changing to the Platinum Standard.

I'm sure religion'll be at the root of it, when it comes to gold. With paper money, the aim was to make gambling and fraud easier - a proud tradition, continued to this day.
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Re: scientific reason why gold = money throughout history

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:02 am

nathan28 wrote:
Silver has been widely used as money


It was in Morrowind. :shrug:

EDIT: Oh, sorry. Read you wrong.
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Re: scientific reason why gold = money throughout history

Postby semper occultus » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:46 am

Moreover, why the arbitrary obsession with gold? The chief reason Britain instituted a Gold Standard (and others followed), rather than a silver standard, goes back to a mathematical mistake by Sir Isaac Newton in 1717, then master of the Royal Mint, in overvaluing the guinea in terms of silver.


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Re: scientific reason why gold = money throughout history

Postby operator kos » Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:14 pm

Perhaps I should add, I don't own gold myself, nor do I advocate it (although I do have some survivalist sentiments). Like I said, I just found the article interesting. Not sure why you're going on such a rant, Nathan, as the article acknowledges the very point you're trying to make.
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Re: scientific reason why gold = money throughout history

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:20 pm

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In the next instalment, the author will explain why throughout history tables have been flat and level.

As for the delusion of gold, consider the original populists. Wikipedia will do for this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenback_Party

The Greenback Party (also known as the Independent Party, the National Party, and the Greenback-Labor Party) [1] was an American political party with an anti-monopoly ideology[2] that was active between 1874 and 1884. Its name referred to paper money, or "greenbacks," that had been issued during the American Civil War and afterward. The party opposed the shift from paper money back to a bullion coin-based monetary system because it believed that privately owned banks and corporations would then reacquire the power to define the value of products and labor. It also condemned the use of militias and private police against union strikes[3]. Conversely, they believed that government control of the monetary system would allow it to keep more currency in circulation, as it had in the war. This would better foster business and assist farmers by raising prices and making debts easier to pay. It was established as a political party whose members were primarily farmers financially hurt by the Panic of 1873.

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The Greenback Party was founded at a meeting in Indianapolis, Indiana, on November 25, 1874. It was originally called the Independent Party or the National Party. In the late 1870s, the party controlled local government in a number of industrial and mining communities and contributed to the election of 21 members in the United States Congress independent of the two major parties[4].

The Gilded Age was an era of political ferment and conflict over the proper uses of governmental activity[5]. The Greenback movement began as a protest against the national system of money and banking that had emerged by the mid-1870s. In particular, Greenbackers condemned the National Banking System, created by the National Banking Act of 1863, the harmonization of the silver dollar (Coinage Act of 1873 was in fact the "Crime of '73" to Greenback), and the Resumption Act of 1875, which mandated that the U.S. Treasury issue specie (coinage or "hard" currency) in exchange for greenback currency upon its presentation for redemption beginning on 1 January 1879, thus returning the nation to the gold standard. Together, these measures created an inflexible currency controlled by banks rather than the federal government. Greenbacks contended that such a system favored creditors and industry to the detriment of farmers and laborers[6].

In 1880 the Greenback Party broadened its platform to include support for an income tax, an eight hour day, and allowing women the right to vote. Ideological similarities also existed between the Grange (The National Grange of the Order of Patrons of Husbandry) and the Greenback movement. For example, both the Grange and the GAP favored a national graduated income tax and proposed that public lands be given to settlers rather than sold to land speculators[7]. The town of Greenback, Tennessee was named after the Greenback Party about 1882.[8]


Farmers! Indianapolis! Populists! Demanding more paper money in circulation and higher taxes on the rich.


(What? The bankers had a national system of regulation before the Federal Reserve? Impossible!)


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