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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby Gnomad » Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:29 pm

Real men fix everything themselves.

Not free, but pretty cheap, and a very addicting nice puzzle game - World of Goo.
For Linux, Mac, Windows.
http://www.worldofgoo.com/

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Get the gooballs to the pipe so the Goo Corporation can suck them up for processing and sale...
Its a great little game, with cool graphics and sounds - and the story is fun too.
The price was a few measly dollars / euros, and they had an offering in the beginning to pay what you like, even zero, and it went really well. Also not too many game devs put the game out on all platforms including Linux and Mac, so support if you can.

Great game for kids too.
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Fri Feb 25, 2011 11:19 pm

Stephen, I want you to listen to me. Okay. Are you listening?

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Play that. Don't care what else you're currently up to. Give up your job, squander your cash, be rash... just play Floor 13. It requires Dosbox sadly, if you're running windows, so not at all sure how it'll go on Linux, Unix, Ubuntu, or whatever paranoiac's plaything you're toying with these days. But it's ace.

It's basically a text adventure, I admit, with very limited graphical appeal, where you have to protect the British government from the fall-out of the Roberto Calvi affair, Jonathon
Moyle's death, the Iraq supergun scandal, and various other very thinly veiled real-life scenarios. You play as a top-level spook (always vulnerable to being pushed out the office-block window) rather than a whistleblower or investigator, but that has the benefit of giving players the inside scoops that didn't appear at the time. Oh, and you are secretly working for the modern-world political advencement of an ancient secret society called the Masters of Thoth - an ancient Egyptian mystery cult as you will know.

The game is certainly in bad taste, and trivializes the incidents it deals with, but it's very funny, and nobody else was telling young folk about these cases at the time. Satire picked up where journalists failed or got scared, as usual.

Free to download too:
http://www.glennsguides.com/2009/02/flo ... nload.html

EDIT: Yeah, and Gabriel Knight 3 as well, ya bawbag. Get it played!
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby Stephen Morgan » Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:30 am

AhabsOtherLeg wrote:Stephen, I want you to listen to me. Okay. Are you listening?


I hear all, I see all.

Play that. Don't care what else you're currently up to. Give up your job, squander your cash, be rash... just play Floor 13. It requires Dosbox sadly, if you're running windows, so not at all sure how it'll go on Linux, Unix, Ubuntu, or whatever paranoiac's plaything you're toying with these days. But it's ace.


Well, alright, if it's free, I'll see if I can get it working. There are DOS emulators in the Ubuntu repos, I'll give one of them a go if it's a DOS programme.

But Linux, of which Ubuntu is a flavour and which is a Unix-type OS, is not a paranoiac's plaything. As one relies on the totality of the community of users for bug-fixes, security updates and so forth, you must have faith in your fellow man. Like this website, in which they aggregate the faces of average women and come up with a woman who looks significantly above average, so an Open Source OS becomes more than the sum of its parts. You, on the other hand, allow your paranoid fear of the unknown to push you into whoring yourself to megacorporations, gladly offering yourself for the corporate gang-bang of inferior products and superior prices.

So don't you go calling me paranoid. Cheap, maybe, paranoid never.
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby 82_28 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:34 pm

While I know this thread is presented as is and in perfectly good humor, I am going to echo that Linux is the opposite of paranoid. It is akin to taking matters of what you pay for, put up with, get nagged by into your own hands. I've never met more "paranoid" people in my life than those who have no idea what the fuck has become of their windoze machine. "I've done all the updates. I'm all paid up on my Norton subscription" etc.

I chose Linux a long time ago because this dude who was kind of a friend and also happened to work for M$FT pissed me off in an argument about OSes. Totally a pompous asshole about it. I believe he tried to get Corel Linux (defunct distro) running and he and his staff had a "good laugh" about how "bad it sucked". Linux GUI wise did suck back then, but I was determined never to give M$FT or any corporation any kind of money nor worry about my machine going haywire because of something I DIDN'T DO. Unfortunately there's that all inclusive "Microsoft Tax" with just about any off the shelf PC you buy. So I've never been completely rid of them.

I remember one time I went over to his house and he let me check out an experimental install of XP. He droned on and on about how for a few years they had perfecting this shit called "True Type" fonting. I laughed. You guys fucking spend all your time on this, I replied and yet can't get a fucking operating system secure, usable, learnable. Fuck them and their fucking pay-to-play automation. Nobody should have to pay for tech support, virus updates and all that shit.

BTW, I am now playing Mass Effect 2 on my PS3. Highly recommended!
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby 82_28 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:43 pm

In the Beginning was the Command Line
by Neal Stephenson

About twenty years ago Jobs and Wozniak, the founders of Apple, came up with the very strange idea of selling information processing machines for use in the home. The business took off, and its founders made a lot of money and received the credit they deserved for being daring visionaries. But around the same time, Bill Gates and Paul Allen came up with an idea even stranger and more fantastical: selling computer operating systems. This was much weirder than the idea of Jobs and Wozniak. A computer at least had some sort of physical reality to it. It came in a box, you could open it up and plug it in and watch lights blink. An operating system had no tangible incarnation at all. It arrived on a disk, of course, but the disk was, in effect, nothing more than the box that the OS came in. The product itself was a very long string of ones and zeroes that, when properly installed and coddled, gave you the ability to manipulate other very long strings of ones and zeroes. Even those few who actually understood what a computer operating system was were apt to think of it as a fantastically arcane engineering prodigy, like a breeder reactor or a U-2 spy plane, and not something that could ever be (in the parlance of high-tech) "productized."

Yet now the company that Gates and Allen founded is selling operating systems like Gillette sells razor blades. New releases of operating systems are launched as if they were Hollywood blockbusters, with celebrity endorsements, talk show appearances, and world tours. The market for them is vast enough that people worry about whether it has been monopolized by one company. Even the least technically-minded people in our society now have at least a hazy idea of what operating systems do; what is more, they have strong opinions about their relative merits. It is commonly understood, even by technically unsophisticated computer users, that if you have a piece of software that works on your Macintosh, and you move it over onto a Windows machine, it will not run. That this would, in fact, be a laughable and idiotic mistake, like nailing horseshoes to the tires of a Buick.

A person who went into a coma before Microsoft was founded, and woke up now, could pick up this morning's New York Times and understand everything in it--almost:

* Item: the richest man in the world made his fortune from-what? Railways? Shipping? Oil? No, operating systems.
* Item: the Department of Justice is tackling Microsoft's supposed OS monopoly with legal tools that were invented to restrain the power of Nineteenth-Century robber barons.
* Item: a woman friend of mine recently told me that she'd broken off a (hitherto) stimulating exchange of e-mail with a young man. At first he had seemed like such an intelligent and interesting guy, she said, but then "he started going all PC-versus-Mac on me."

What the hell is going on here? And does the operating system business have a future, or only a past? Here is my view, which is entirely subjective; but since I have spent a fair amount of time not only using, but programming, Macintoshes, Windows machines, Linux boxes and the BeOS, perhaps it is not so ill-informed as to be completely worthless. This is a subjective essay, more review than research paper, and so it might seem unfair or biased compared to the technical reviews you can find in PC magazines. But ever since the Mac came out, our operating systems have been based on metaphors, and anything with metaphors in it is fair game as far as I'm concerned.


MGBs, TANKS, AND BATMOBILES

Around the time that Jobs, Wozniak, Gates, and Allen were dreaming up these unlikely schemes, I was a teenager living in Ames, Iowa. One of my friends' dads had an old MGB sports car rusting away in his garage. Sometimes he would actually manage to get it running and then he would take us for a spin around the block, with a memorable look of wild youthful exhiliration on his face; to his worried passengers, he was a madman, stalling and backfiring around Ames, Iowa and eating the dust of rusty Gremlins and Pintos, but in his own mind he was Dustin Hoffman tooling across the Bay Bridge with the wind in his hair.

In retrospect, this was telling me two things about people's relationship to technology. One was that romance and image go a long way towards shaping their opinions. If you doubt it (and if you have a lot of spare time on your hands) just ask anyone who owns a Macintosh and who, on those grounds, imagines him- or herself to be a member of an oppressed minority group.

The other, somewhat subtler point, was that interface is very important. Sure, the MGB was a lousy car in almost every way that counted: balky, unreliable, underpowered. But it was fun to drive. It was responsive. Every pebble on the road was felt in the bones, every nuance in the pavement transmitted instantly to the driver's hands. He could listen to the engine and tell what was wrong with it. The steering responded immediately to commands from his hands. To us passengers it was a pointless exercise in going nowhere--about as interesting as peering over someone's shoulder while he punches numbers into a spreadsheet. But to the driver it was an experience. For a short time he was extending his body and his senses into a larger realm, and doing things that he couldn't do unassisted.

The analogy between cars and operating systems is not half bad, and so let me run with it for a moment, as a way of giving an executive summary of our situation today.

Imagine a crossroads where four competing auto dealerships are situated. One of them (Microsoft) is much, much bigger than the others. It started out years ago selling three-speed bicycles (MS-DOS); these were not perfect, but they worked, and when they broke you could easily fix them.

There was a competing bicycle dealership next door (Apple) that one day began selling motorized vehicles--expensive but attractively styled cars with their innards hermetically sealed, so that how they worked was something of a mystery.

The big dealership responded by rushing a moped upgrade kit (the original Windows) onto the market. This was a Rube Goldberg contraption that, when bolted onto a three-speed bicycle, enabled it to keep up, just barely, with Apple-cars. The users had to wear goggles and were always picking bugs out of their teeth while Apple owners sped along in hermetically sealed comfort, sneering out the windows. But the Micro-mopeds were cheap, and easy to fix compared with the Apple-cars, and their market share waxed.

Eventually the big dealership came out with a full-fledged car: a colossal station wagon (Windows 95). It had all the aesthetic appeal of a Soviet worker housing block, it leaked oil and blew gaskets, and it was an enormous success. A little later, they also came out with a hulking off-road vehicle intended for industrial users (Windows NT) which was no more beautiful than the station wagon, and only a little more reliable.

Since then there has been a lot of noise and shouting, but little has changed. The smaller dealership continues to sell sleek Euro-styled sedans and to spend a lot of money on advertising campaigns. They have had GOING OUT OF BUSINESS! signs taped up in their windows for so long that they have gotten all yellow and curly. The big one keeps making bigger and bigger station wagons and ORVs.

On the other side of the road are two competitors that have come along more recently.

One of them (Be, Inc.) is selling fully operational Batmobiles (the BeOS). They are more beautiful and stylish even than the Euro-sedans, better designed, more technologically advanced, and at least as reliable as anything else on the market--and yet cheaper than the others.

With one exception, that is: Linux, which is right next door, and which is not a business at all. It's a bunch of RVs, yurts, tepees, and geodesic domes set up in a field and organized by consensus. The people who live there are making tanks. These are not old-fashioned, cast-iron Soviet tanks; these are more like the M1 tanks of the U.S. Army, made of space-age materials and jammed with sophisticated technology from one end to the other. But they are better than Army tanks. They've been modified in such a way that they never, ever break down, are light and maneuverable enough to use on ordinary streets, and use no more fuel than a subcompact car. These tanks are being cranked out, on the spot, at a terrific pace, and a vast number of them are lined up along the edge of the road with keys in the ignition. Anyone who wants can simply climb into one and drive it away for free.

It's an older article, but it's a classic Stephenson piece. Check the whole thing out here:

http://artlung.com/smorgasborg/C_R_Y_P_ ... _O_N.shtml
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby justdrew » Sat Feb 26, 2011 3:44 pm

hey 82_28, I'm nearing the end of ME2 as well, got it when it came out, but only getting into it now. don't usually like the run-and-gun stuff, but it's got enough storytelling and aspects beyond that that it's a fairly good game as games these days go. me3 out at the end of the year :eeyaa
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:30 am

82_28 wrote:While I know this thread is presented as is and in perfectly good humor, I am going to echo that Linux is the opposite of paranoid. It is akin to taking matters of what you pay for, put up with, get nagged by into your own hands. I've never met more "paranoid" people in my life than those who have no idea what the fuck has become of their windoze machine. "I've done all the updates. I'm all paid up on my Norton subscription" etc.


Yeah, it's all in good fun. Arguing about OSes is as dumb as the console wars, or those who claim to be a part of the Glorious PC Master Race (though, of course, PC gamers are a superior self-selecting elite :evilgrin ).

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God good, the first thing anyone should do with a store-bough machine is remove Norton from it. It's crippleware.

I like the open-source software myself, but Stephen is right about the fact that I've subjugated myself to the corporate
swindlers, and am now soundly reamed by them on a daily basis. It's probably a bad idea to say what OS I'm using on here (especially when it's as unsecure as all MS products) but I can say this - it is worse than Vista. WORSE THAN VISTA!

I know a fair bit about how it's internals work though, at least, and don't have to worry about viruses or hacking much (hopefully) and I've never put any of MS's extra spyware on it (Games For Windows Live, Outlook Express, and all the other junk they foist on you.

Currently having a go at Mass Effect 1. I'm old-fashioned.

Stephen Morgan wrote:You, on the other hand, allow your paranoid fear of the unknown to push you into whoring yourself to megacorporations, gladly offering yourself for the corporate gang-bang of inferior products and superior prices.


You mean people still pay for this stuff?

Seriously, though, I think you'll like Floor 13 if you can get it running. It's menu-based, nothing fancy, hardly any sound at all beyond a few midi-style tunes at infrequent intervals. You can listen to that Radio 4 doc about Numbers Stations or something while playing for added atmosphere, or something about Gladio.

Seconding World of Goo, suggested by our illustrious Penguin/Gnomad. It's good clean fun. As clean as goo gets, anyway.

Also consider trying Black Dahlia, a good old-fashioned FMV adventure of the classic kind, but dealing with the Thule Society, the murder of Elizabeth Short, Nazi propagandists, and the Cleveland Torso Killer. However bad taste it might be, I like some real-life cases in me games. Oh, and Dennis Hopper's in it.

Wikipedia has decent info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dahl ... eo_game%29

Hard to find, but well worth a try.

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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby justdrew » Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:53 am

AhabsOtherLeg wrote:EDIT: When did we get an Anonymous emoticon?!


someone asked for it in passing the other day and so I added it. If anyone else has any favorites or requests for emoticons let me know. this one is also new -> :shock2:
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby Stephen Morgan » Sun Feb 27, 2011 8:33 am

82_28 wrote:While I know this thread is presented as is and in perfectly good humor, I am going to echo that Linux is the opposite of paranoid. It is akin to taking matters of what you pay for, put up with, get nagged by into your own hands. I've never met more "paranoid" people in my life than those who have no idea what the fuck has become of their windoze machine. "I've done all the updates. I'm all paid up on my Norton subscription" etc.


Yes. Last time I had windows installed, every time it eventually got round to starting up there were a shit load of messages popping up from the system tray. Update this, register that, run the other. What all that shit in the system tray was I don't know. KDE reminds me of that, always asking "Are you sure you want to do that"? But windows users rightly become paranoid. Read the Ubuntu absolute beginners' forum for a big and you see the same questions from windows refugees all the time: how do I install anti-virus being both the most common and the most amusing.

I chose Linux a long time ago because this dude who was kind of a friend and also happened to work for M$FT pissed me off in an argument about OSes. Totally a pompous asshole about it. I believe he tried to get Corel Linux (defunct distro) running and he and his staff had a "good laugh" about how "bad it sucked". Linux GUI wise did suck back then, but I was determined never to give M$FT or any corporation any kind of money nor worry about my machine going haywire because of something I DIDN'T DO. Unfortunately there's that all inclusive "Microsoft Tax" with just about any off the shelf PC you buy. So I've never been completely rid of them.


For my fellow countrymen there is a company called Novatech who happily sell you PCs without an operating system for less money. Good rep for linux compatability, too. As for GUI, I quite like a command line. Nowadays I use youtube and iPlayer and torrent vids and so forth, so I have to use one. Also like the wobbly windows. But for mail, rss, nntp, that sort of thing, the command line is still excellent. Take me back to my slackware youth.

Nobody should have to pay for tech support, virus updates and all that shit.


That's what forums, repos and virus-proof OSes are for, I suppose.

BTW, I am now playing Mass Effect 2 on my PS3. Highly recommended!


Don't hack it. Might go to prison.

AhabsOtherLeg wrote:Yeah, it's all in good fun. Arguing about OSes is as dumb as the console wars, or those who claim to be a part of the Glorious PC Master Race (though, of course, PC gamers are a superior self-selecting elite :evilgrin ).


I still say the Master System was better than the NES. Came with Alex Kidd in Miracle World built-in. Can't beat that. Yes, many a true word is spoken in jest.

It's probably a bad idea to say what OS I'm using on here (especially when it's as unsecure as all MS products) but I can say this - it is worse than Vista. WORSE THAN VISTA!


We're a friendly bunch. We ain't :fawked: .

However, I'm curious as to what could be worse than Vista. I've heard less-bad things about both XP and 7, so could it be 2000? ME? A bit old, but could be possible. I certainly can't think of anything more recent by MS with a worse rep than Vista. Nor am I familiar with any Windows system which doesn't have to worry about Viruses.
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:58 am

Stephen Morgan wrote:Yes. Last time I had windows installed, every time it eventually got round to starting up there were a shit load of messages popping up from the system tray. Update this, register that, run the other. What all that shit in the system tray was I don't know. KDE reminds me of that, always asking "Are you sure you want to do that"? But windows users rightly become paranoid. Read the Ubuntu absolute beginners' forum for a big and you see the same questions from windows refugees all the time: how do I install anti-virus being both the most common and the most amusing.


That's what I mean when I say I know a bit about the sysinternals - basically, I've had to learn what to uninstall/disable in Windows before it can be called a semi-acceptable OS (basically, everything) and how it's done, as well as how to plug the most egregious security gaps and "phone home" functions. Not exactly an IT Specialist (not lazy or anti-social enough, and that's saying something) but I can get a Windows PC running almost like it's a computer these days. Vista of course, is unsalvageable, and for my sins I'm running Vista 64. The only thing worse than standard Vista in terms of ease of use and ridiculous design choices.

Stephen Morgan wrote:For my fellow countrymen there is a company called Novatech who happily sell you PCs without an operating system for less money. Good rep for linux compatability, too.


Good recommendation, will definitely bear that in mind, though i doubt I'll be upgrading for a few years yet. What I really need to do is reformat and get XP on this thing (I'd use Ubuntu, Linux, Unix, but they're not great for games).

It's probably a bad idea to say what OS I'm using on here (especially when it's as unsecure as all MS products) but I can say this - it is worse than Vista. WORSE THAN VISTA!

Stephen Morgan wrote:We're a friendly bunch. We ain't :fawked:


It's not members here I'm worried about, more lurkers, readers, or whoever might pass by. A lot of script-kiddies can't see someone's system specs on a page without feeling motivated to ping it's ports for a response or whatever the hell they get up to these days, and I never know who i might've annoyed.
All I know about that kind of stuff is to fear it (but not as much as we're told to fear it, of course. Anti-virus and firewall companies were doing their own version of false terror alerts long before 9/11).

Never had a Master System or a NES, unfortunately. I went from Coleco Vision to Speccy to Amiga, always staying well behind the times. Still a pretty good trajectory though.
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby Stephen Morgan » Sun Feb 27, 2011 11:05 am

AhabsOtherLeg wrote:What I really need to do is reformat and get XP on this thing (I'd use Ubuntu, Linux, Unix, but they're not great for games).


There's plenty of Linux games, and versions of games, and WINE compatible games. No championship manager clone, though.

Never had a Master System or a NES, unfortunately. I went from Coleco Vision to Speccy to Amiga, always staying well behind the times. Still a pretty good trajectory though.


Commodore 64, Master System 2, Win98 for me.
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby eyeno » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:13 am

If I am command line illiterate (i am) how hard will it be to get Ubuntu running and get a wireless connection to work? I seriously dislike being a windows slave. And what about old scanners and cameras? How hard are they to get working with Linux?
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby justdrew » Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:57 am

eyeno wrote:If I am command line illiterate (i am) how hard will it be to get Ubuntu running and get a wireless connection to work? I seriously dislike being a windows slave. And what about old scanners and cameras? How hard are they to get working with Linux?


just download and burn the iso CD image. then boot from it. you can then choose to "try" or install. Just try it for now. it'll run from the CD and memory, but not as nicely as it would if it had a hard drive to live on.

http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download

it does a very nice job of identifying hardware and making it work. most likely your wifi will "just work"

one big question tho is do your have your windows install cd and/or system restore cd that came with the computer. if you don't and you decide to erase the windows partition and make it a linux system, you wouldn't be able to go back to windows. if you're not on windows 7 and don't need directX 9 or 11 for games, you can probably just go ahead and no have any major problems. with ubuntu you will rarely NEED to go to a command line.

if you only have the one machine, and would be unable to get on the net to look for help you'd probably want to hold off for a bit. another thing you may need to get into is how to go into the bios and adjust the boot device, most will default to booting from a cd if a bootable cd is inserted when the machine comes on. so trying it should be very easy.
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby Stephen Morgan » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:35 am

justdrew wrote:one big question tho is do your have your windows install cd and/or system restore cd that came with the computer. if you don't and you decide to erase the windows partition and make it a linux system, you wouldn't be able to go back to windows. if you're not on windows 7 and don't need directX 9 or 11 for games, you can probably just go ahead and no have any major problems. with ubuntu you will rarely NEED to go to a command line.

if you only have the one machine, and would be unable to get on the net to look for help you'd probably want to hold off for a bit. another thing you may need to get into is how to go into the bios and adjust the boot device, most will default to booting from a cd if a bootable cd is inserted when the machine comes on. so trying it should be very easy.


Bios? Don't use language like that, you'll scare the poor mite. You start with the milk of free software before moving onto the meat of custom kernel compilation.

As the man says, just download the iso and burn it, or use something like unetbootin to put it on a USB stick. You can use it like that. It will obviously be better to put it on the hard drive, but make sure everything works first. You shouldn't need to delve in the BIOS, there's a programme on the CD which runs under windows and make it boot from the CD on a one-time only basis. At least there was the last time I had windows. Most computers try to boot from CD and USB first anyway.

It should be as simple as selecting "Try Ubuntu", waiting for it to load from the CD then clicking the network manager, your wifi network and entering your password. A few wireless cards, broadcoms for example, will need to download drivers before they'll work, but most will be fine. Firefox will already be installed, as will a torrent client, e-mail, all that sort of stuff. Simple as that.

If you want to install it you get into the nitty-gritty of partitioning, which is the only place anything can really go wrong. The Live CD includes the Gnu Partition Editor, or the installer will happily re-partition for you, either by wiping windows or installing in free space. Or you can install with wubi, a less stable and slightly slower system, which has the advantage of not needing to repartition.

Also, unless your computer is less than a year old I'd download the 10.04 version rather than 10.10 from the website, 10.10 has a bug in the installer which causes some people problems.
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Re: What are you currently installing/playing?

Postby 82_28 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:10 am

eyeno wrote:If I am command line illiterate (i am) how hard will it be to get Ubuntu running and get a wireless connection to work? I seriously dislike being a windows slave. And what about old scanners and cameras? How hard are they to get working with Linux?


You will be just fine. Most anything I do command line anymore is through cut and pasting. You will be glad you have an accessible terminal in which to bring up the command line at some point -- which Linux/Ubuntu/Gnome easily adds to your applications bar. But if you can learn how to navigate through your directories you're going to be better off in the long run. No, you don't need to know that now. But it's simple. Don't worry about it.

Note how earlier Stephen posted the commands in order to get that conky_colors shit. I just cut and pasted. Mind you, with the highlight and "two button magic" of Linux. Lemme explain.

Mind you, with the highlight and "two button magic" of Linux. Lemme explain.


I did not just choose copy and then paste there from a menu. I simply highlighted what I wanted and then moved the cursor down and hit both mouse buttons. Pasted! It's a small little thing right there that makes Linux verging on infinitely better than any other consumer class OS.

Also multiple desktops are nice. I wouldn't do without them.

I simply do not know why any of the other OSes have yet to implement such simple user experience upgrades in all this time.

But yeah, 10.10 did not install nicely from windoze and I just went with the live CD and let it partition my shit on this new PC i got a few months ago. Go live CD, test it out and then if it all works, install. Come back here if you have any other questions. There's always an issue at some point, but this is NOTHING compared to what you must put up with with an aging windoze install. At least you know where you're at when you use linux and it will cost you nothing.
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