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Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:57 pm

sunny wrote:
I'll be happy to fill you in. I'm an expert on the subject but these are no big secret: :lol:

Other Departments include: The Dept. of Talking Shit Out

The Dept. of Cuddling and Cooing


It is at this point I must interject. If only to agree.

The Dept. of Don't Fuck With Me Today I'm Bloated

It's not just you, girls. After (let's say) a prolonged drinking binge - lasting a couple of years or so - men can also be bloated around the ankles and stomach, and may feel about as keen on being touched there by a woman as, let's say, Peter Mandelson does. Why, it's almost as if our physiology were similar!

The Dept. of Put the Seat Down and Pick Up Your Underwear

Put the seat back UP when you're finished! FFS!!! :lol:

Good points altogether.
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Postby sunny » Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:17 pm

AhabsOtherLeg wrote:
sunny wrote:
I'll be happy to fill you in. I'm an expert on the subject but these are no big secret: :lol:

Other Departments include: The Dept. of Talking Shit Out

The Dept. of Cuddling and Cooing


It is at this point I must interject. If only to agree.

The Dept. of Don't Fuck With Me Today I'm Bloated

It's not just you, girls. After (let's say) a prolonged drinking binge - lasting a couple of years or so - men can also be bloated around the ankles and stomach, and may feel about as keen on being touched there by a woman as, let's say, Peter Mandelson does. Why, it's almost as if our physiology were similar!

The Dept. of Put the Seat Down and Pick Up Your Underwear

Put the seat back UP when you're finished! FFS!!! :lol:

Good points altogether.


Well, you may not want to be touched when you are bloated but I want my husband to rub my back. I rub his back all the time, he should rub mine when I'm being a total bitch. :lol: What I don't want him to do is look at me wrong or suggest dinner might be a little salty. Possibly he could bring me a bottle of wine and a box of chocolates to make up for the heinous 'salty' comment but this is an iffy proposition.

I swear on my mothers errr, collection of Cloisonné vases I'm a sweetheart the rest of the month. :wink:
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Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:27 pm

sunny wrote:I swear on my mothers errr, collection of Cloisonné vases I'm a sweetheart the rest of the month. :wink:


I had forgotten that all women are, in reality, werewolves, transformed beyond recognition by the phases of the moon. It's honestly been that long.

I thought we were just talking about generalised ungendered chronic water-retention and swelling, which is something I've been waiting years to talk about publically online. :lol:

C'mon guys, who's with me?! Swollen ankles are no longer the exclusive preserve of women! I've broken the wall! Who's with me?!

Oh... just me then.

Fair enough.
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Postby annie aronburg » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:52 am

"Your problem is that you don't need a man. There's no room for a man in your life. There's nothing for one to do. You need to be more helpless."

Initially, this advice seemed terrible, but it turned out to be the most astute assessment and efficient resolution of my lovelorn situation.

Not to say you should be tossing hankies at men in abject helplessness, but make sure you're leaving space for someone in your life.
"O Oysters," said the Carpenter,
"You've had a pleasant run!
Shall we be trotting home again?'
But answer came there none--
And this was scarcely odd, because
They'd eaten every one.
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Postby OP ED » Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:30 am

lesbianism.

no. please.
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fecemi la divina podestate,
la somma sapienza e 'l primo amore.

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Postby freemason9 » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:54 am

This is all news to me.
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Postby Maddy » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:26 am

AhabsOtherLeg wrote:I had forgotten that all women are, in reality, werewolves, transformed beyond recognition by the phases of the moon.


This is a fact. I bear my fangs proudly. Image There are benefits to go with the downfalls. :wink:

OP ED wrote:lesbianism.


With a slice of lime.
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Postby beeline » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:33 pm

Well try not to be so bitchy during your peroids.

KIDDING! I have 7 older sisters, so I am allowed to play the mentru-card. I've paid my dues, trust me on that.

Here's my real advice: don't try and change him. Nothing turns me off more than a woman that tells me what to wear, how to act or what to do. People can change, but it has to be on their own terms. This is not to say little things in a co-habitation setting are off the table: if the cap on the toothpaste tube really does bother you, that's something we can discuss and I will try to do something about. But as far as hobbies and habits, best to give us space.
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Postby Maddy » Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:20 pm

Beeline: along that line, I always figure its better to find someone with whom you can live with their worst faults, rather than trying to find the perfect person. :wink:
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Postby beeline » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:21 pm

That's just it, isn't it? I mean, no relationship is perfect. There are going to be things about the other person you don't like. Acceptance of those things (or not) is the hard work. Or you can leave. Too many people try to find that 'perfect person,' there's no such thing.

Anyway...so I met this woman the other night, we're going out again tonight.... :D
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Postby sunny » Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:20 pm

Maddy wrote:Beeline: along that line, I always figure its better to find someone with whom you can live with their worst faults, rather than trying to find the perfect person. :wink:


This is the best advice on relationships. After over 27 years with my hubby we know each other inside and out and came to the conclusion many years ago that our major faults are something we can each live with. We are now in a peaceful, easy place but not without first paying for it with a lot of wrangling and compromise and work and forgiveness. Complete acceptance between spouses, I have found, does not happen overnight. We want it right away and forever for ourselves but often find it harder to give and keep giving, especially after getting our feelings deeply hurt when our partner, being human, inevitably diplays his or her failings in a big way. Sometimes you feel you don't want to let it go, or forgive and forget, nor most especially do you not want to "work through it". It's too much, it's too far, I can't live with it...

My advice is to let it go, at first. Take a time out and reflect. Don't react or overreact before you've thought out your situation and all of your options. The vast majority of the time it's not as bad as you think. You can and you are living with it. You are not going to die. Days pass, or more if you need it, and you can sit down and talk about it, calmly and rationally. Not applicable if it's an emergency situation, obviously. :lol: And by emergency I don't mean "i am so hurt I need to throw this heavy crystal ashtray RIGHT NOW!!". ahem. Anyway, always keep in mind the good things about him/her and why you love them in the first place.
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Postby compared2what? » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:37 pm

beeline wrote:Here's my real advice: don't try and change him. Nothing turns me off more than a woman that tells me what to wear, how to act or what to do. People can change, but it has to be on their own terms. This is not to say little things in a co-habitation setting are off the table: if the cap on the toothpaste tube really does bother you, that's something we can discuss and I will try to do something about. But as far as hobbies and habits, best to give us space.



    "At Wanamaker's and Saks and Klein's, a lesson I've been taught:
    You can't make alterations on a dress you haven't bought....SO:


    Marry the man today
    Trouble though he may be
    Much as he likes to play
    Crazy and wild and free
    Marry the man today
    Rather than sigh in sorrow
    Marry the man today
    And change his ways tomorrow."


Which is, like, the worst advice EVAR, actually. But from a really good musical.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:51 pm

PROFESSOR HIGGINS:

Why can't a woman be more like a man?
Men are so honest, so thoroughly square;
Eternally noble, historically fair,
Who, when you win, will always give your back a pat.
Why can't a woman be like that?
Why does every one do what the others do?
Can't a woman learn to use her head?
Why do they do everything their mothers do?
Why don't they grow up, well, like their father instead?

Why can't a woman take after a man?
Men are so pleasant, so easy to please.
Whenever you're with them, you're always at ease.

Would you be slighted if I didn't speak for hours?

COLONEL PICKERING:
Of course not.

PROFESSOR HIGGINS:
Would you be livid if I had a drink or two?

COLONEL PICKERING:
Nonsense.

PROFESSOR HIGGINS:
Would you be wounded if I never sent you flowers?

COLONEL PICKERING:
Never.

PROFESSOR HIGGINS:
Well, why can't a woman be like you?

One man in a million may shout a bit.
Now and then, there's one with slight defects,
One perhaps whose truthfulness you doubt a bit,
But by and large we are a marvelous sex!

Why can't a woman take after a man?
'Cause men are so friendly, good-natured and kind.
A better companion you never will find.

If I were hours late for dinner, would you bellow?

COLONEL PICKERING:
Of course not.

PROFESSOR HIGGINS:
If I forgot your silly birthday, would you fuss?

COLONEL PICKERING:
Nonsense.

PROFESSOR HIGGINS:
Would you complain if I took out another fellow?

COLONEL PICKERING:
Never.

PROFESSOR HIGGINS:
Why can't a woman be like us?

[dialog]

PROFESSOR HIGGINS:
Why can't a woman be more like a man?
Men are so decent, such regular chaps;
Ready to help you through any mishaps;
Ready to buck you up whenever you're glum.
Why can't a woman be a chum?

Why is thinking something women never do?
And why is logic never even tried?
Straightening up their hair is all they ever do.
Why don't they straighten up the mess that's inside?

Why can't a woman behave like a man?
If I was a woman who'd been to a ball,
Been hailed as a princess by one and by all;
Would I start weeping like a bathtub overflowing,
Or carry on as if my home were in a tree?
Would I run off and never tell me where I'm going?
Why can't a woman be like ME?

("Why Can't a Woman Be More Like a Man?"
music by Frederick Loewe; lyrics by Alan Jay Lerner.)
"Ich kann gar nicht so viel fressen, wie ich kotzen möchte." - Max Liebermann,, Berlin, 1933

"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." - Richard Feynman, NYC, 1966

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Postby compared2what? » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:52 pm

beeline wrote:There are going to be things about the other person you don't like. Acceptance of those things (or not) is the hard work.


That, imo, is what it almost always boils down to. Even if there's nothing about the other person you don't like, in fact. On a day in, day out, long-term basis, one thing about the other person that there's no avoiding is that he or she is another person. And whether you love them passionately or not, the thing about other people is that sometimes they're just fucking in the way. And I'm pretty sure that's a gender-blind truth. Love is easy. Accommodation is hard. And usually on the dullest fucking level. I mean, closet space is not infinite, and that's that.

The only question is whether the other person is willing to admit that it's all his fault.

:P
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Postby sunny » Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:55 pm

I'll be more like a man and punch Professor Higgins.
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