A confession about a scam I almost pulled off last night

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Re: A confession about a scam I almost pulled off last night

Postby Cordelia » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:15 am

An interesting book I read years ago: SON OF A GRIFTER by Kent Walker with Mark Schone.

“By his mid-20's, Kent Walker had burgled the homes of his neighbors, been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in a slavery trial and taken $500 to intimidate a potential witness. According to any conventional standard, Walker was a fairly hardened criminal. According to the dismal standard of his family, he was a model citizen.

In ''Son of a Grifter,'' Walker and his co-author, Mark Schone, offer a mesmerizing account of growing up as the child of a world-class sociopath. Walker's mother, Sante Kimes -- who was responsible for his youthful crimes -- is the monster behind one of the most celebrated murders of the 90's: in 1998, Kimes and her younger son, Kenny, killed an elderly widow named Irene Silverman in a vain attempt to steal her $7.7 million Manhattan mansion. Both Kimeses are now serving life sentences for that murder, but it was only the final nastiness in Sante's crime spree, one that also may have claimed a Cayman Islands bank official, one of her lawyers, her ''best friend'' and perhaps even one of her husbands. Another of her lawyers -- he's still alive -- says that Charles Manson is the only client he's had as evil as Kimes.

The Silverman murder actually forms a very small part of this enthralling book. Walker, the product of an early marriage, had split with his mom by the time she turned to homicide. Most of ''Son of a Grifter'' chronicles the day-to-day wickedness of Sante, the ceaseless criminal activity witnessed with increasing horror by her elder son. She led a life devoted -- with a purity that approaches genius -- to swindling other people....” http://partners.nytimes.com/books/01/05 ... lotzt.html
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Re: A confession about a scam I almost pulled off last night

Postby Sepka » Wed Jul 07, 2010 10:57 pm

82_28 wrote:I get really jealous of animals and plants sometimes -- actually all the time. As I go to work, I can see birds flying around and squirrels scurrying here and there -- but I have to go to work, to keep my end up on the bargain I didn't make in the first place.


The squirrels and birds have lives just as hard as ours, I promise you, and the consequences for slacking off are generally more severe and permanent.

And for what it's worth (and somewhat belatedly) I do find it commendable that you regretted your dishonesty, and worked to undo the potential damage.
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Re: A confession about a scam I almost pulled off last night

Postby Elvis » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:06 pm

82_28 wrote:
Elvis wrote:
82_28 wrote:$200 I would have made in about 20 minutes.


Instead of $200, let's say it was $2,000,000...

same time spent, same chance of getting caught, but instead of ten people losing $20--and possibly getting their cars towed--it would be 100,000 people...

would $2M change your decision to stop?


I live day to day. And apologize for even bringing this up and my reaction to Fresno as well. But, I wasn't doing it to be a fucking dick. I didn't post this to cause extreme controversy. I didn't post this to even make a personal point. I really only wanted, upon retrospect, to prove that no matter our best intentions we can all be "human" and THANK GOD some of us see that it is OK to not be a scam artist.


I wasn't trying to pick on you or anything. In fact, after the question came to my mind, I grappled with it myself for awhile; one might easily rationalize taking $20 here and there to get $2M. ("And I would do good things with that $2M!")

I hate money too. I really wish I could do without it. I wish it never existed at all. I get really jealous of animals and plants sometimes


Many years ago I worked awhile as a cashier, and once a week or so a pretty severely developmentally disabled ('retarded') guy came in and would select a bunch of writing pads and pencils to buy (he loved to draw); he'd lay out all his change on the counter, having no idea if it was enough. I'd count the money and sort out his options---"you can get this and this--or--this and this..." and he'd choose, collect his new stuff and leave happy. He was always happy, it seemed, and I found myself envying his relative freedom from concerns about money, his obliviousness to what it meant. The word 'bliss' came to mind. I often think of him.

Of course when I counted his money for him, I always cheated him for a couple bucks.


...JUST kidding. :D
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