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Videogames are kind of like cartoons, one still image frame displayed after another so that it seems like a single moving image. A computer's ability to run a game can be measured in 'frames per second'(FPS), which counts the number of images that can be displayed each second. An animation of someone walking at 15fps would look choppy and fake. The same animation at 100fps would look very smooth and lifelike.

I was thinking that my stream of consciousness is much the same, with many, many frames per second occurring. Here's the cool part, I'm only in control of maybe a million fps. Countless other frames occur each second, but I'm usually oblivious to them. God and other lifeforms use them, with my consent now that I realize it. Some of the frames occur in non-ordinary realities. Constantly. The Scientologists aren't far off with the thetan idea, but they're waay off when they think about casting them out. Better to build a nation, span the universe. We're each a walking tower of Babylon.

My name is Legion (or Network if you prefer the current vernacular). Peace be upon thee.

That sounds about right. I've always thought the universe was like a movie, with the Planck time between frames.

Hrrmm, I was lit up like a Christmas tree when I wrote that.

But since the topic's going... Maybe meditation, dreaming, drugs, etc... allow us temporary awareness of the in between frames we normally don't see by changing the speed or frequency at which our mind operates. I knew this Buddha when I was 20ish who told me 'slow down to speed up'. I think she was Buddha when she said that, but we were both pretty crazy... it's kind of a recurring theme in my life Anyway, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell that's supposed to mean but I think it's something to do with 'frame perception'.

On a related note, there's a series called What We Still Don't Know in which various scientists go on the record as saying that Intelligent Design is as likely as anything else (***SPOILER ALERT because a measurement called 'the cosmological constant' must be tuned exactly to a value that runs into a 120 decimal places, the slightest variation would result in our universe not being formed, therefore - ID or infinite universes or something, but we don't have a clue really) and they also conclude that we may just be a videogame programmed by a super-intelligence.

Chillin wrote:Maybe meditation, dreaming, drugs, etc... allow us temporary awareness of the in between frames we normally don't see by changing the speed or frequency at which our mind operates.

Well, let’s think about celluloid. If memory serves, 24 fps is standard and appears normal to us; neither choppy nor sped up (Interestingly, subliminal messages/images are embedded in media by flashing them faster than 1/24 of a second. Consciously we cannot perceive an image displayed for such a brief span of time. Subconsciously though…). But if I’m thinking about this right the rate is relative to both the speed with which the images are captured (the rate that our visual system can process an image)as well as the speed with which they are run through a projector. (This applies to a computer screen’s refresh rate as well). If a film is recorded at 24 fps and is played at 24 fps then I believe that is what appears normal to us; that is that is the minimum rate at which we perceive the passage of time in reality, altered states aside (I think). If you take a film that is recorded at 24 fps and play it either slower or faster then things will appear to mooooove in sloooow moootion or appear to speed up like Chaplin. Now, if you use high speed film and capture 96 fps instead of 24 fps you are capturing all those moments in between that were lost. The information density is richer. If that film is played at 96 fps then that will appear normal, just much smoother and richer.

The fight or flight response produces intense time dilation for me. Adrenaline is a very powerful neurochemical. As an example I’ve been hit by a car while riding a bike. I saw the car coming right at me and I froze. It all happened like a film recorded at 100 fps but played back at 80 fps. Extremely rich and intense, but everything was slowed down. At least that is the way I recall it, which might also have an effect.

I’m gonna have to think about what your Buddhist friend is saying.

brainpanhandler wrote:

Chillin wrote:I’m gonna have to think about what your Buddhist friend is saying.

So I said "should we speed up to slow down?"

She looks all serious and says "No." like it was a really bad idea.

She was tricky as hell too. Interesting times!

In The USA (and Canada) we have NTSC tv, which is 30 frames per second. In Europe it is PAL, which is 25 frames per second. But each frame is actually two interlaced "fields", so NTSC is 60 fields per second. New televisions have a new HD "progressive" format which does away with the interlacing and instead doubles the frame rate to 60 progressive frames a second (60p). I have seen Red Sox footage in HD that is amazing, you can see ingrown pores on Varitek's face.

I am not sure if this much detail is good news for the porn industry but that is another story.......

Anyway, in terms of the more metaphysical aspects of this thread, i have a theory about multi personality disorder. i think a "normal" personality is made up of hundreds of personas, and when life poses a puzzle to an individual, these personas attack the puzzle all at once in a big blur and what emerges is a sort of consensus about the best possible way forward.

I think the "defect" of those with multiple personality disorder is that what happens to them is this approach breaks down and they tend to get "stuck" in one personality for much longer than "normal" people do. So, their problem is not that they have more personalities than average, but that they spend much too long in any one mask, where as the average person applies many personas to the puzzle.

Not sure if I am explaining that as well as i could.

Not a bad theory. The personae wouldn't necessarily be only self-generated, but possibly a composite of self-generated personae and the surface personae borrowed from other people, right? And wouldn't it be more likely for the number to be in the range of, like, 5-15 personae instead of hundreds? Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying? Also, I imagine there would be certain strong-willed people whose personae over the course of a lifetime would be compressed into even fewer masks, maybe even down to one mask?

IanEye said:

Anyway, in terms of the more metaphysical aspects of this thread, I have a theory about multi personality disorder. I think a "normal" personality is made up of hundreds of personas, and when life poses a puzzle to an individual, these personas attack the puzzle all at once in a big blur and what emerges is a sort of consensus about the best possible way forward.

I find your theory very interesting. From what I've read of mind control techniques, personas play an important role. For example, a person lacking confidence would be trained - I guess hypnotized - to create or imagine a self-assured alter ego. I would think that this type of behaviour modification would have been used in the training of soldiers, i.e. turning men into killing machines. More knowledgeable people on this board could provide background information documenting the long relationship between the military/intelligence apparatus and psychiatry (What were the US Army precursors of the CIA's MK-Ultra program?). I've been watching reruns of the PBS series "The Fifties" (1997) and I was again reminded of the social engineering aspects of "public service" short films, especially as it related to family life... a model exemplified by the Cleaver family of the "Leave It to Beaver" (1957) series. One can only wonder the extent to which government entities made use of "advances" in the fileds of psychology and psychiatry.

Coming back to chillin's musings about "frames-per-seconds" and "non-ordinary realities", I have vague recollections of similar notions in the Seth/Jane Roberts books (Wikipedia reference). I will certainly revisit my Seth material. Though a difficult read, it seemed to make sense to me... even though it was channeled material... Isn't all such material - i.e. spiritual - channeled one way or another?

For your amusement, I'm including a link that I found by chance - after googling the word "birthday" to find out, unsuccessfully so far, who might have been born on the day that Jack Parsonsdied. The link leads to a webpage containing a "Birthday Calculator" ... and among the things that you can find out is... how old you are in terms of seconds... and, consequently, determine the number of frames you have seen/perceived so far. Of course, you would have to subtract sleep time (unless dreams count...) ... and maybe TV time... and "completely out-of-it" time (I have a few frames lost there, for sure)... What would be left? Kinda makes you think, doesn't it.

I would think that dreams most definitely count, in some way.

I think dreams count as well... but in what way? Are we responsible/accountable for our actions in our dreams?

on edit: sorry.. I'm following a different line of thought maybe... I've been in a retrospective and contemplative mood lately. I've just retired, you see.

FourthBase wrote: And wouldn't it be more likely for the number to be in the range of, like, 5-15 personae instead of hundreds?

indeed, hundreds may be too many - I don't know, it is just an idea i have.

also, in terms of subliminal messages, it is much easier to pick a field (odd or even) of video and hide a message in that as opposed to just one frame of video-

but i am sort of jumping back and forth between two ideas in this thread sorry!

IanEye,

"What a good thing Adam had. When he said a good thing he knew nobody had said it before." - Mark Twain

Not too long ago I read a very similar theory that we all have multiple personalities. But I think that thoery was that we rapidly switch between them. I'll see if I can find that again.

Ziggin' and a Zaggin wrote:...googling the word "birthday" to find out, unsuccessfully so far, who might have been born on the day that Jack Parsons died.

ZZ,

I'm very curious. Why are you doing this?

Short answer: out of curiosity. I had recently seen the "Jet Propelled Antichrist: Jack Parsons" episode of the Enigma program on television and there was a part where the following was alluded to:

On the other hand, he had also been told that he would become "living flame" before Babalon incarnated; and it was this latter prophecy that proved to be chillingly correct. On the afternoon of 17 June 1952 Parsons dropped some highly unstable explosive, and died of horrific injuries an hour later.

Here is the source for the above, which I cannot really vouch for, but it did have the information I was seeking.


So basically - just for the hell of it (no pun intended) - I wondered if someone of notoriety had been born on June 17 or 18, 1952. I sort of expected to find a name or two that would make me go "Well, whaddya know!" or perhaps "Mr. Babalon, I presume?" But nothing turned up. I've read stranger things about Crowley and company... a connection to Barbara Bush and George H.W. Bush, for example (I am not offering a link to this allegation because, again, I wouldn't be confident about the reliability of the reference.)


So there you are. I did it just for fun. I am not that interested in the O.T.O. I was fascinated, however, by this Jack Parsons fellow... In fact, I only found out about him a couple of years back while reading one of Jeff's posts on his blog.

P.S. Was a movie ever made about Parsons' life? That might be interesting to see. Apologies to chillin' for my making such a tangent here.

FourthBase wrote:... more likely for the number to be in the range of, like, 5-15 personae instead of hundreds?

For personal reasons that sentence made me shit a brick lol, but in "spirit math" one and infinity seem to pop up frequently. A little slice of the pie for each sentient being ( EVRY1 in txtspeek?). I suck at math.

Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying? Also, I imagine there would be certain strong-willed people whose personae over the course of a lifetime would be compressed into even fewer masks, maybe even down to one mask?

Yah maybe. I'm not clear on the specifics but thinking instead of a guy in a shell, I'm a shell on a thread that's something like a computer network but composed of sentience, spanning 'time'. Some frames for me, some frames for T-Rex and the one he's chasing, some for the Orca, some for the Nazis and some for their victims. It can get pretty ugly, but I think that's why Dick Cheney was wearing the 'Staff' hat at the Holocaust memorial.

ZigginandZaggin wrote:Coming back to chillin's musings about "frames-per-seconds" and "non-ordinary realities", I have vague recollections of similar notions in the Seth/Jane Roberts books.

FWIW... I've read some of The Nature of Personal Reality and filed it under 'Forbidden Knowledge' along with quantum mechanics. IMO these are topics that are best dealt with by the higher intelligences. The guide I mentioned warned me off of Seth too. Paranoid? Definitely =)

Hi peeps!

RE looking for reincarnations: according to the Tibetans it takes between a week and seven weeks for the consciousness to find a womb, and then of course, you must factor in nine more months.