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Waking Up Is Hard To Do

Postby eyeno » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:48 pm

I know someone who might be rolling out of nap time. I am trying to think of the name of the countless videos I have watched that help match the symbolism, religion, etc...to every day life. Some basic videos that show well known people throwing the hand sign of Baphomet, the symbolism of the dollar bill, etc...

Zeitgeist is the only one I can think of at the moment. I can't believe I don't remember the names of all these damn vids I have seen but I can't remember them. I know Zeitgeist is riddled with errors but I have never seen any that get it all right anyway.

Any suggestions? I found this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJvagD-ukYY and whether or not it is all factual I am going to recommend it. Right now I am mainly looking for out of the box vids for trance breaking.
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Re: Waking Up Is Hard To Do

Postby justdrew » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:10 pm

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Re: Waking Up Is Hard To Do

Postby eyeno » Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:34 pm

I know Zeitgeist is riddled with errors but I have never seen any that get it all right anyway.



Actually I was fairly satisfied with the zeitgeist jesus angle. I mainly said the above to head off a raging zeitgeist debate. :partydance:
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Re: Waking Up Is Hard To Do

Postby justdrew » Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:15 am

eyeno wrote:I know someone who might be rolling out of nap time. I am trying to think of the name of the countless videos I have watched that help match the symbolism, religion, etc...to every day life. Some basic videos that show well known people throwing the hand sign of Baphomet, the symbolism of the dollar bill, etc...

Zeitgeist is the only one I can think of at the moment. I can't believe I don't remember the names of all these damn vids I have seen but I can't remember them. I know Zeitgeist is riddled with errors but I have never seen any that get it all right anyway.

Any suggestions? I found this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJvagD-ukYY and whether or not it is all factual I am going to recommend it. Right now I am mainly looking for out of the box vids for trance breaking.


I don't know man, that thing is one seriously phucked up chopped up narrative spaghetti shotgun. Would be great for implementing a modified Ludovico Technique. NOt that it's worthless or anything, just covers so much ground, I'm not sure it would make much sense if you didn't already know about the stuff they mention.

I guess I'm recommending to let them find their own way, talk, maybe lend some books. :shrug:
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Re: Waking Up Is Hard To Do

Postby Canadian_watcher » Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:32 pm

There's a Michael Tsarion film.. ummm..
Architects of Control maybe?
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Re: Waking Up Is Hard To Do

Postby eyeno » Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:56 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:There's a Michael Tsarion film.. ummm..
Architects of Control maybe?


Thanx doll! Big gift>>> :angelwings:


I forgot about Tsarion, even though I have seen much of his work. Definitely worth a think, this idea is prolly good. :sun:


BIG SMOOCH TO YA FOR THAT IDEA :hug1:
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Re: Waking Up Is Hard To Do

Postby eyeno » Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:05 pm

justdrew wrote:
eyeno wrote:I know someone who might be rolling out of nap time. I am trying to think of the name of the countless videos I have watched that help match the symbolism, religion, etc...to every day life. Some basic videos that show well known people throwing the hand sign of Baphomet, the symbolism of the dollar bill, etc...

Zeitgeist is the only one I can think of at the moment. I can't believe I don't remember the names of all these damn vids I have seen but I can't remember them. I know Zeitgeist is riddled with errors but I have never seen any that get it all right anyway.

Any suggestions? I found this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJvagD-ukYY and whether or not it is all factual I am going to recommend it. Right now I am mainly looking for out of the box vids for trance breaking.


I don't know man, that thing is one seriously phucked up chopped up narrative spaghetti shotgun. Would be great for implementing a modified Ludovico Technique. NOt that it's worthless or anything, just covers so much ground, I'm not sure it would make much sense if you didn't already know about the stuff they mention.

I guess I'm recommending to let them find their own way, talk, maybe lend some books. :shrug:



Agreed. Frame of reference means everything. Without frame of reference, nothing makes any sense, which is why the wall is so hard to penetrate, and so hard to break through for those struggling to do so.

This person realizes something is seriously wrong, and of course can't put their finger on it. Terribly confused. Asking me tons of questions. Falling prey to new age religion, which is the last cul de sac blind alley before true realization, in my opinion. Nothing I say makes sense of course. wow....how?
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Postby Canadian_watcher » Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:55 pm

:)

I just watched the first 10 minutes of Architect of Control and I don't think that that was the particular film I was thinking of, TBH because I don't think I've ever seen it! ( :oops: )

I'm sure he has another one that is a little more linear in structure. (I find Tsarion anything but easy to follow without already knowing a little bit about what he's referencing. )

I looked but can't pin point the one I am thinking of where he goes through symbolism and their roots in ancient occult rituals, mind control, usurpation of holy days. If I think of it I'll let you know since that sounds more like what your friend is looking for?

Other than that there's also The Awakening which is only an hour but that might be too new agey for you.
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Re: Waking Up Is Hard To Do

Postby Nordic » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:28 pm

i think a good starting point for anybody would be "the century of the self".

in fact it should be required reading for everybody, in, say, high school.

then there's perkin's book "confessions of an economic hitman"

between the two of these, a good foundation can be laid.
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Postby Saurian Tail » Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:37 am

Nordic's two references are fantastic for mainstream folks ... excellent for introducing people to the wider world of the way things work ... without getting into occultism. Also, the Story of Stuff is fantastic, super basic video.

For symbolism, NWO, and general info on occult influences in the world, I'm really liking Mark Passio at What On Earth is Happening. He has a 4 part video series that covers most of the basics and he is a really good teacher and easy to follow and I feel like he really knows his stuff.

http://whatonearthishappening.com/index ... &Itemid=59

His Podcasts are also excellent and he includes lots of charts and images that you can open to follow along with the symbolism.

For Consciousness and Matrix awakening, I think it is hard to beat Neil Kramer's essays provided your friend reads at a reasonably high level. Here is a good sample from "The Deep Joy of De-Normalizing:

Television is anti-human. Its message is clear: “Do not create for yourself. Manifest only official constructs.”

Voluntary relinquishment of one’s own holographic imaginal palette is an extraordinary disavowal of the divine human ability to create reality. It is a deep necrotic sickness of the soul. Incredibly, many people sense this on a subtle level and yet they still go along with it because they lack the psychic or emotional know how to take matters into their own hands. It’s too hard to resist the pull of sensual engagement. To act from genuine selfhood and sovereignty takes discipline.

It is absurd for any sentient being to believe that they can be informed, educated or entertained by the screens and pages of the construct. Is there anything of value there? Crumbs fall from the table, occasionally – but they’re eclipsed by the constant torrent of normality that pours into the third eye.

Neil's website: http://neilkramer.com/

Hope you find this useful.

-ST
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Postby IanEye » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:42 am

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Postby Canadian_watcher » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:00 am

Saurian Tail wrote:Nordic's two references are fantastic for mainstream folks ... excellent for introducing people to the wider world of the way things work ... without getting into occultism. Also, the Story of Stuff is fantastic, super basic video.

For symbolism, NWO, and general info on occult influences in the world, I'm really liking Mark Passio at What On Earth is Happening. He has a 4 part video series that covers most of the basics and he is a really good teacher and easy to follow and I feel like he really knows his stuff.

http://whatonearthishappening.com/index ... &Itemid=59

His Podcasts are also excellent and he includes lots of charts and images that you can open to follow along with the symbolism.

For Consciousness and Matrix awakening, I think it is hard to beat Neil Kramer's essays provided your friend reads at a reasonably high level. Here is a good sample from "The Deep Joy of De-Normalizing:

Television is anti-human. Its message is clear: “Do not create for yourself. Manifest only official constructs.”

Voluntary relinquishment of one’s own holographic imaginal palette is an extraordinary disavowal of the divine human ability to create reality. It is a deep necrotic sickness of the soul. Incredibly, many people sense this on a subtle level and yet they still go along with it because they lack the psychic or emotional know how to take matters into their own hands. It’s too hard to resist the pull of sensual engagement. To act from genuine selfhood and sovereignty takes discipline.

It is absurd for any sentient being to believe that they can be informed, educated or entertained by the screens and pages of the construct. Is there anything of value there? Crumbs fall from the table, occasionally – but they’re eclipsed by the constant torrent of normality that pours into the third eye.

Neil's website: http://neilkramer.com/

Hope you find this useful.

-ST


Oh yeah I forgot about Kramer! He is good, too. (Again a little deep though.. has he done anything recently?)

And I'm going to listen to the other one's you've suggested, too, ST. :)

This is my favourite "listen while painting" type of material.
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Re: Waking Up Is Hard To Do

Postby eyeno » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:47 pm

Saurian Tail wrote:Nordic's two references are fantastic for mainstream folks ... excellent for introducing people to the wider world of the way things work ... without getting into occultism. Also, the Story of Stuff is fantastic, super basic video.

For symbolism, NWO, and general info on occult influences in the world, I'm really liking Mark Passio at What On Earth is Happening. He has a 4 part video series that covers most of the basics and he is a really good teacher and easy to follow and I feel like he really knows his stuff.

http://whatonearthishappening.com/index ... &Itemid=59

His Podcasts are also excellent and he includes lots of charts and images that you can open to follow along with the symbolism.

For Consciousness and Matrix awakening, I think it is hard to beat Neil Kramer's essays provided your friend reads at a reasonably high level. Here is a good sample from "The Deep Joy of De-Normalizing:

Television is anti-human. Its message is clear: “Do not create for yourself. Manifest only official constructs.”

Voluntary relinquishment of one’s own holographic imaginal palette is an extraordinary disavowal of the divine human ability to create reality. It is a deep necrotic sickness of the soul. Incredibly, many people sense this on a subtle level and yet they still go along with it because they lack the psychic or emotional know how to take matters into their own hands. It’s too hard to resist the pull of sensual engagement. To act from genuine selfhood and sovereignty takes discipline.

It is absurd for any sentient being to believe that they can be informed, educated or entertained by the screens and pages of the construct. Is there anything of value there? Crumbs fall from the table, occasionally – but they’re eclipsed by the constant torrent of normality that pours into the third eye.

Neil's website: http://neilkramer.com/

Hope you find this useful.

-ST


I found Passio a few weeks ago at Oracle Broadcasting and I really like him. I listen to his podcasts regularly now. I also like Bob Tuskin.

Speaking of podcasts I am looking for some good podcasts for myself lately. Anyone have any good recommendations?

And thank you very much for the time you put into your response ST. Mucho thanx. :thumbsup
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Postby eyeno » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:53 pm

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Thank you for this ianeye. Getting ready to watch it now. :thumbsup
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Re: Waking Up Is Hard To Do

Postby eyeno » Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:54 pm

Nordic wrote:i think a good starting point for anybody would be "the century of the self".

in fact it should be required reading for everybody, in, say, high school.

then there's perkin's book "confessions of an economic hitman"

between the two of these, a good foundation can be laid.



Been a long time since I have seen Century of The Self. Think I'll watch it again myself. Thank you Nordic. :thumbsup
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