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"Do you know of anyone who has been wrongfully imprisoned anywhere in the world, let alone in the United States, for their “Jewishness”?
The answer is probably no, but not as far as one Jewish group in the US is concerned.
According to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency (JTA), “a new legal defence fund for Jews seen as being held wrongfully because of their Jewishness” has been set up, and already tax-deductible – i.e. taxpayer-subsidized – money has begun to flow into it....
....While on the face of it setting up a publicly-subsidized fund to help free prisoners thought to be wrongfully convicted may seem an innocent, humanitarian endeavour, it raises several worrying questions.
The first clue for concern is found in the words used by the JTA: a legal defence fund “for Jews seen as being held wrongfully because of their Jewishness”.
Are we to conclude that every convicted Jew was convicted because of his or her “Jewishness”, or that, because he or she is a Jew they must therefore be considered wrongfully convicted? What if Mr Gross had been of another faith or none: would he still be seen as wrongfully convicted?
These are not just rhetorical questions. Many non-Jewish Cubans have been convicted and jailed in Cuba because of their activities on the internet, which the Cuban authorities view as a potential means of espionage. The cases below are but a small sample, and they were certainly not convicted for their “Jewishness” – they are not Jews!...
....Furthermore, how would the Jewish Community Relations Council of Greater Washington – or any other Jewish organization – view a Jew who is judged by his or her peers – i.e. a jury – as having committed a crime and is convicted of that crime? Would the Jewish organizations consider him or her ipso facto wrongfully convicted because of their Jewishness?
Again, this is not a rhetorical question. Recently, the British police arrested a 54-year-old rabbi, Chaim Halpern, on suspicion of sexual assault, and three other members of the Orthodox Jewish community in north London on suspicion of perverting the course of justice...........
.....Will the Board of Deputies of British Jews argue that they had been arrested because of their Jewishness, not because they are suspected of being predatory perverts, and campaign for their release?
The question may sound farfetched but, sadly, it is not. In 2011 a religious counsellor and respected member of an ultra-Orthodox Jewish community in Brooklyn, Rabbi Nechemya Weberman, 53, was arrested after a 16-year-old girl accused him of molesting her during years of counseling sessions dating back to when she was 12.
The Jewish community responded by raising funds for him and harassing the victim and her family on the grounds that they were harming Jewish community cohesion.....
Luckily for the victim and for society as a whole, the perverted rabbi was convicted of child sex abuse and sentence to 103 years in prison.
One wonders if Rabbi Weberman will be the next beneficiary of the Jewish Community Relations Council of Greater Washington’s fund to help Jews “seen as being held wrongfully because of their Jewishness”?
It is hard to say whether the absurd notion of “Jews seen as being held wrongfully because of their Jewishness” is a symptom of Jewish paranoia, Jewish narcissism or Jewish chosenness and exceptionalism, which considers Jews as a cut above the rest of humanity and exempt from the normal rules of civilized human relations.
We may never know the answer, but in the meantime Jewish communities the world over would do themselves great credit to follow the advise of the musician and writer, Gilad Atzmon, himself an ex-Jew.
In a blogpost, Mr Atzmon called upon the Jewish Community Relations Council of Greater Washington ”to launch a fund that will help cover the legal defence of millions of Palestinians who have been wrongfully imprisoned by the Jewish state in the name of the Jewish people”."
"...anti-Semitism will continue regardless of any historical events unrelated to the far right itself. Even the complete extermination of every last Jew would not staunch this wound, for the belief in “Jewish conspiracies” ..."
seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:39 pm wrote:not a word about Wombat...so like you....so like you...you and your agenda being the most important thing around here
I guess your having a happy get rid of a mod day
and no RI is NOT ALL ABOUT YOU
Ah but Wombat sidelined you awhile back I guess paybacks are a bitch
American Dream » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:00 pm wrote:seemslikeadream » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:39 pm wrote:not a word about Wombat...so like you....so like you...you and your agenda being the most important thing around here
I guess your having a happy get rid of a mod day
and no RI is NOT ALL ABOUT YOU
Ah but Wombat sidelined you awhile back I guess paybacks are a bitch
i'd like to keep this thread focused on themes relating to the actual content of the post, e.g. Racism, neo-Fascism, Judeophobia, but i'd welcome you starting a separate thread explaining what it is that you are talking about, how much is conjecture, what is actually known etc.
Regarding the OP, my thoughts have been going along similar lines, but in some of my exchanges with white nationalists I have (mischievously) gone a slight step further, and that is to suggest that WN's are wannabe Jews.
The parallels are there, they claim that whites are more intelligent, but unlike the Jews they seem to have trouble crystallising this into real world abilities.
They claim that even though whites are now a diaspora, they should still be able to have have a cultural identity (like the Jews).
Some WN's who have expressed a desire to create a new white homeland have even called this 'White Zion'
American Dream » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:37 pm wrote:Hmmm, the op was written by an anti-fascist from Montreal who who is clearly against the revolutionary white right: neo-fascists, white supremacists, and fellow travellers.
Isn't that clearly in accord with what Rigorous Intuition is about?
Searcher08 » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:12 pm wrote:American Dream » Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:37 pm wrote:Hmmm, the op was written by an anti-fascist from Montreal who who is clearly against the revolutionary white right: neo-fascists, white supremacists, and fellow travellers.
Isn't that clearly in accord with what Rigorous Intuition is about?
I'm not sure if you know, but it appears that our main MOD (Wombaticus Rex) has left being a MOD - for me (and I am being very specific, not ambiguous when I say this) - THAT is what Rigorous Intuition is currently about - a place where exchange about contested subjects has collapsed, where every Solace post is to me carries a screaming barely concealed diatribe against the slightest differing viewpoints, where there is fuck all trust left following the events that resulted in your and slad's suspension and a front page that looks more and more like ADL talking-points.
It was not always like this. When you started posting here you were really funny, personally open and disclosing and engaged in just about everything, the WOO-ier the better.
I think R.I. is currently great as an example of wasted potential, fratricidal communications, good people hating on other good people, fighting the Roman Law vs Common Law fight in a thousand fucking threads.
What shall our epitaph be?
"They spent unending hours
being right
and fighting all collaboration
the valiant keyboard warriors
they were RI"
slimmouse » Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:08 pm wrote:Regarding the OP, my thoughts have been going along similar lines, but in some of my exchanges with white nationalists I have (mischievously) gone a slight step further, and that is to suggest that WN's are wannabe Jews.
The parallels are there, they claim that whites are more intelligent, but unlike the Jews they seem to have trouble crystallising this into real world abilities.
They claim that even though whites are now a diaspora, they should still be able to have have a cultural identity (like the Jews).
Some WN's who have expressed a desire to create a new white homeland have even called this 'White Zion'
Stupid is as Stupid does,
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