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Postby monster » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:26 pm

irc://undernet/Rigorous_Intuition

(If you use Firefox, try the ChatZilla extension.)
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Postby Penguin » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:11 pm

Penguin wrote:Is the room name "#Rigorous_Intuition"?
I see no one else there yet, but I added the Undernet server and that channel ot my irc client..

For those new to IRC:
You need to connect to a IRC server that is part of the Undernet (There are other IRC networks too like IRCnet and Freenode etc, when you are connected to a IRC network, you can chat with all people and in all channels in that network). There are lots of such servers, look up one near you and pick that.
Heres a list of Undernet servers - http://www.undernet.org/servers.php

After joining a server, in most clients you would type "/join #Rigorous_Intuition" to join the room. The / means what follows is a command, in this case to join a channel.

http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html

http://www.xchat.org/
A nice graphical IRC program for Windows and Linux. Also messenger programs like Pidgin support IRC.
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Postby Penguin » Fri May 01, 2009 4:35 am

Bah, I managed to sleep when there actually were a couple people there..

<Mon5ter> Is it true that in IRC, nothing can be embedded, like pics? that kinda sucks
<Mon5ter> all we have is teeeeeeeexxxxxxxxtttttttt


Yeah, all text, all the time...But dont forget links!

<Monster__> I'm gonna log off because I'm gonna install mIRC and see if that's a better chat client
<Monster__> see ya


Dont touch that Mirc, its a pos. If you need a graphical client, try XChat..
Irssi is what all real men use - a console irc client - yeah, all text, even the interface ;)

I like using IRC since Im on about 10 different irc channels every day, all day - so its just a matter of adding another network in my clients connnect list. Ill see if I could get some server space to get a bot running..
I downloaded one reputable bot now, looking into its configuration. Now Ill need to find a cheap/free shell account and Ill try to set it up to keep watch on the channel.

If you worry about showing your IP address in IRC, use a proxy server - making the traffic pass thru the proxy first and showing the proxys IP, not your own. And dont put any real name in the Name fields of course. Then your location will stay safe. My ISP hostname would narrow it down to maybe a few hundred thousand people in my vicinity ..

Hope its not too offputting :)
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Postby SonicG » Fri May 01, 2009 6:59 pm

So much for the Lingr business model, eh? There's Blog Talk Radio also that seems to be easy to set up a chat...No embedding links though...I'll try the irc channel today but it seems so clunky and "old school". :oops:
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Postby Penguin » Sat May 02, 2009 4:29 am

Old skool sure...Too bad not everyone grew up with text commands and blinken cursors..Cant live without :P
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re Penguin's commitment to irc

Postby marmot » Sat May 02, 2009 11:35 am

IRC, btw, is an old school Finnish invention.
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Re: re Penguin's commitment to irc

Postby Penguin » Sat May 02, 2009 4:13 pm

marmot wrote:IRC, btw, is an old school Finnish invention.


Yeah.
I applied for membership in a local internet users association now, so Ill get a shell account for running a bot and persistent irc session. I was supposed to do that anyway a while ago already..Takes a couple weeks to get my acco activated thou.

Thats the handiest way of using irc - you connect from your computer to the server where you have the user account, and your irc program is always running on that server, connected to all the channels you use, so you never miss messages and are always on the channels even when you are not using you own computer. Added bonus is you can run a chat bot to do all kinds of things for you. Like giving op rights to all regular users on a channel etc.

Ive been dreaming of my own little home server too, a very low powered low power noiseless box tucked away in a closet, always on and always online. All my data and services on the net, always a laptop away.
Like this one - http://excito.com/bubba/products/techni ... tions.html
Power use 7-12 watts, depending on disk, hard drives up to 2 terabyte or install your own disk :) And a neat box.. wow, they got the old version on sale for under a hundred..

edit: got my shell...Now Ill just have to see how a bot works and configure one, presently I left "penguloid" hanging at that channel - not a bot but idling user. (not holding my breath waiting to see anyone else there thou :P )
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Postby Code Unknown » Wed May 06, 2009 12:44 am

Bummer. Maybe they should have tried promoting their service beyond the oh-so-advertising-lucrative Arabic porn sharing market (every time I've looked on their front page that's all I see).

Here's another (new) option:
http://www.tinychat.com/

Jeff could embed it at, say, http://rigorousintuition.ca/chat/.

Very bare bones but that can be a good thing. Accessibility is job 1, imo.
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Postby Penguin » Wed May 06, 2009 3:00 am

Code Unknown wrote:Very bare bones but that can be a good thing. Accessibility is job 1, imo.


Yeah, seems so. Im chatting amongst myself and meself at the moment in irc - not accessible enough...
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Postby Code Unknown » Thu May 07, 2009 7:29 pm

TinyChat in action:
http://www.tinychat.com/rigint
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Postby Code Unknown » Thu May 07, 2009 7:56 pm

Or we could split the difference and use IRC with a default option of a web-based IRC client such as mibbit.com for people who don't want to bother with a special IRC client.

Ex:
http://tinyurl.com/csu2j4

Jeff could embed that as an iframe at http://rigorousintuition.ca/chat/ as well.

I've made a poll on this subject here for those who care enough to vote (it also allows you to add your own choice):
http://www.polldaddy.com/p/1602657/
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Postby monster » Thu May 07, 2009 8:12 pm

I think we'll just all disband. It's too complicated.
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Postby marmot » Thu May 07, 2009 10:44 pm

Code!

i'll go where ever, the easier the format the better. the least complicated the system would be best for the most of us. we can always upgrade to a better chatroom when another Lingr-like site pops up.

i kinda liked chatzy, what do you think?

http://www.chatzy.com/696873366075
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Postby Code Unknown » Fri May 08, 2009 1:35 am

OK, one bad/dangerous thing about chatzy.com: I just discovered if you're logged in it shares the email address you registered with with all the admins of every chat room you go in... I don't like that.

Lingr didn't do that, nor does TinyChat - a point in TinyChat's favor, imo.

Update:

Looks like TinyChat is adding private messaging, an important feature Chatzy lacks:
http://tinychat.wordpress.com/2009/03/3 ... e-were-at/

Plus:

"Ability to join a chat with pidgin / Trillian / Any Jabber client – We also have a IRC -> Jabber Proxy in place" (!)

Granted that was March 30th, and they said they'd have those features "within the next few days," but still...

So... http://tinychat.com/rigint I say.

Objections?

Update 2:

"Instructions to login to tinychat via trillian, pidgin, other clients coming soon 5:22 AM Apr 17th from web"
http://twitter.com/tinychat/status/1541512038
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Postby Penguin » Fri May 08, 2009 4:06 am

That ability to use Pidgin etc sounds nice. Lets see ...
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