Captain's Log thread

[Et in Arcadia ego]

If that thread doesn't meet the current definition of the 'Activism' section, I don't know what does. Do the rest of the moderators agree on this?

Please review:

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... highlight=

[chiggerbit]

So sorry, I already moved it.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

No sweat off my back.

[chiggerbit]

And frankly, I think that one puts the site at risk. I could easily imagine someone new dropping and reading that one and believing that illegal acts were being planned. If that one ever got reported, Jeff could lose the site.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

And frankly, I think that one puts the site at risk. I could easily imagine someone new dropping and reading that one and believing that illegal acts were being planned. If that one ever got reported, Jeff could lose the site.

I agree, and that's part of what fired me up in the first place. I'd lost sight of that one in the turmoil and there's just so many BS threads of theirs I can't keep on top of them all..

Unfortunatly, with it being in activism, it's not hard to interpret it as something that carries Jeff's endorsement merely by it's continued existance.

I stand behind my conviction dragon should be banned. He's not going to let up, and engaging him makes me look like a forum bully, so I'm out of ideas..

[chiggerbit]

For Pete's sake, he's offering those things for sale in that thread. Let me go back and look, but I think he was the one today who brought that thread back up, so I'm beginning to suspect there's some taunting going on, maybe trying to stir the pot to boil the discontent to the surface. But I'll try to give him the benefit of the doubt this time, since he doesn't have the means of moving the thread himself over to activism since the rules changed. My guess is that he is going to keep on pushing it until he is banned. I haven't paid much attention to him in the past, but the latest couple of posts on that thread look like he is escalating.


Several choices I would consider are (1) one of us could go into that thread and explain the risks of those kinds of statements, and I don't think it should be you, et; (2) one of us could pm him; (3)put a disclaimer at the top of that board, which might not be a bad idea either way; or (4) just give him enough rope for awhile, quietly moving the threads to activism....

[chiggerbit]

Christ, is he using this board as some sort of headquarters for his network?

[Et in Arcadia ego]

Yes, it appears that's exactly what he's doing, and he's getting more outrageous by the day:

From his new 'Black Helicopters' thread:

I'm getting reports from forum members of encounters with black or un-marked helicopters. Thought I'd pass along a story about how we deal with them here.

The summer of 2003 was an intense time in our lives. We moved to a small outpost in the desert, away from town, and I continued to build cloudbusters and other devices.

Some of you may already be familiar with the device known as a PowerWand. There is probably an explanation for it on line somewhere. Basically, it is a hand-held weapon suitable for close-up or long distance work. Battery powered, bulky, heavy, but Zounds! it is a very powerful weapon.

Here's the end:

This is why nuclear reactors are so vulnerable. This is also why the moonbase was so vulnerable. It was my inadvertent attack on the moon base that triggered the snooper flights.

Dragon

So, what I think is going on here, is that:

A - there are no PM's to him from members here regarding Black Helicopters, he's seeding the idea in the board's head.

B - if he's getting any PM's at all, it's from people that are buying into this crap inquiring about purchasing one of these wands or cloudbusters of his.

In other words, as I've said before, I think he's using this board as a profit vehicle.

This guy has GOT TO GO..He's working this board just like any grifter off the street works a mark. His insinuation that Nuclear facilities are considered a viable 'target' is way too provocative in my eyes..

I refuse to moderate a board where someone is permitted to make statements that can be interpreted by our fascist leaders as terrorist threats.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

(3)put a disclaimer at the top of that board, which might not be a bad idea either way

I've suggested this to Jeff as well in the past. I'm not aware of the exact legalities, but it would make perfect sense to me that a board would be held responsible for what it's posters are permitted to say on it.

This must be dealt with.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

to Joe Hillshoist:

Go yap at their heels for a while, and leave the chembusting crowd alone.

Dragon

This is not a Chembuster forum as far as I knew. If it is, I'd like to know it in terms of absolutes so I can pack my bags and get the hell out of here.

The 'chembuster crowd' is the biggest pack of whacked out paranoids I've ever seen online and I don't want anything to do with them. I've watched this board over the last 2 months be slowly infiltrated by them and I've had enough. Jeff, I understand you are under alot of pressures and this board isn't at the top of your priorities, but I must advise you that you risk your credibility considerably by permitting these posters to remian here.

[Et in Arcadia ego]

And I see it as no coincidence that he flares up and gets his shit in high gear when he knows that Jeff is offline. He knows that Jeff is the only person that can ban him and he's exploiting this right here, right now. I've seen other people take advantage of Administrator's generosity and loose moderation and I definately think dragon is using Jeff's good will against him.

[chiggerbit]

Oh, yeah, a fifth option: delete the most offensive threads.

I still think it would be a good idea to add a couple of guidelines. Add something about respecting the site by not putting it at risk with authoritites (or is that already in there. I need to back and read them again) , and something about this site not being for the purpose of persistently promoting any religion, cult, belief system, product... persistant being the key word.

Man, I can't believe I'm saying this. I hate censorship.

[sunny]

my attact .. moonbase

nuclear reactor... vulnerable to attack

Umm, this is practically incendiary. Do you think Bushs' Ho#eland Se*urity cares one whit if it's bullshit talking? This is just the kind of excuse *they* would use to shut down a forum like this.

Something has to be done- RIGHT NOW.

[chiggerbit]

The two strongest offensives are deleting and banning. Deleting will probably lead to escalation, passive-aggressive tactics. If he is saying these kinds of things in the threads, what the heck is he advocating in pm's here with his cult? So far as I'm concerned, there are more than enough reasons to ban "dragon", but maybe not MaryK...if she isn't actually dragon. Although...that mutiny thread was a bit suspicious. I vote to ban dragon.

Either action will lead to all of us being orgonshitted. ~SCHPLATT~

[chiggerbit]

Holy sheet, I just read Jeff's sticky at activism. I might as well have saved my "breath". Good for you, Jeff!