Joe? Your comment?
Look, I find it hard to take that stuff seriously. I am not saying there are no underground bases or anything. in fact I know there are underground US facilities that are highly sus in Australia. pine gap is one of them.
But at the same time I have my own worldvview. One that recognises the dreamtime, shadow time, the mythological or eternal world or whatever you want to call it. A world that is kind of orthagonal to the reality we seem to be in all the time.
i think that events like what Dragon describes, his battles with underground bases and the like, well if they are happening and he is not just making shit up, then its taking place in this dreamtime world, and that its a metaphorical process, or a mythological one. And to be honest I don't think he is just making shit up.
Ie just cos I don't think that there are real underground bases built by mole machines and tunnelborers with electricity from somewhere to light them and a mix of humans, reptillians and god knows what else all planning to control our minds that I can actually walk down to, sneak in the back and write smartarse grafitti in the bog.
But it might be there, just through that thin veil tween us and the next world, where its effects could possibly be as real as if it were a flesh and blood thing. In which case good on maryk, dragon, OI and anyone else doing it.
Its a damn good metaphor after all.
Dragon, you might think I am a condescending bastard for trying to warp your reality into my own world view BTW, and thats probably fair enough.
But thats my comment Hugh. I have seen way too much far out craziness for myself to be willing to just write off someone else's as crap.
There hows that for being non commital and sitting on the fence?
Cos also Dragon you said this:
You're right about that, Joe. Best way is to make your own. That's what I encourage people to do. They get the full benefit of the ceremony that way.
I find this interesting. Perhaps the whole point of charging people an arm and a leg for mudballs is to actually encourage them to get off their arse and do it for themselves? Is that right dragon?
In any case I find the whole Dragon and Mary and anyone else pushing those ideas, are working for Exxon theme rather dodgy.
Dragon I think you have a bit of a messiah complex, but frankly if you are doing stuff that benefits people and the world its far from my place to judge you on that, cos the consequences of your actions for the world and for others is what matters. And ultimately thats between you and the infinite, and between the rest of us here and that same infinite, for our own stuff ups and successes.
Pitcairn and I were talking about the whole mythology process and all the related weirdness on another thread just the other day.