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professorpan wrote:What if I continually accused you of spreading disinformation with your "keyword hijacking?"
You're the last one who should be admonishing me. You've called me a "harebrained" and "paranoid" and even "without the courage to do honest research" probably a coupla dozen times over the last year. I've gotten the same kicks in the ribs from orz and RobertDReed. And I didn't run out and start a thread to complain that you were "out of line." I addressed you in the context of the debate.
Your theories are as outlandish to me as orgone mudpies and alien base zapping, but I have never been asinine enough to accuse you of using it to "confuse and eat up our bandwidth." I debate your ideas -- not your sincerity.
You haven't questioned my sincerity. Just my mental health and competence.
Thanks. Viva la difference.Consider arguing about the ideas, and quit accusing people like MaryK of being disinfo agents with malign agendas. Or face the consequences of refusing to abide by the very simple, very fair rules of this forum.
Attack Ships on Fire wrote:I've thought about not asking what I'm about to say for the reason that this thread is making my head spin, but at the risk of looking like an idiot to everyone in this thread...can someone point me to somewhere on the web which will explain this whole orgone thing to me?
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And these orgone balls are supposed to cancel out bad chi/energy but there's no way to scientifically prove that this orgone energy exists?
Did I get that right? I'm not wearing the shades from "They Live" right now, so bear with me gang...
*backs out of the room slowly, hands raised in the air, no sudden movements made*
In the 1930s, Wilhelm Reich, M.D.—an Austrian psychiatrist, psychoanalyst and scientist—discovered a powerful, new biological energy, and for the next two decades devoted his life to the investigation of its laws and properties. Reich confirmed the existence of this energy in the human body, verified its presence in the atmosphere, developed instrumentation to observe and collect it, and harnessed it for a variety of purposes from cancer treatment to motor power to weather experimentation.
Reich called his discovery “orgone energy.” But, sadly, it was a discovery that the world was not ready for.
The alleged 'orgone' started as a brilliant researcher's (Wilhem Reich) attempt to find a scientific measurement for 'good vibes' which he hypothesized created an actual radiation that could travel great distances. But he failed and 'orgone' was a dead end and destroyed his career and discredited all his great work exposing the harsh authoritarianism of fascism. Reich's unproven ideas about 'orgone' made a perfect device for discrediting all is other work. The US government was glad to bury the man's reputation because he was writing about the same mass behavioral psychology the government was trying to secretly imbue into the US population using Total Warfare doctrines to get something like the hostile and obedient authoritarian personality syndrome that still supports W to this day.
The 'orgone' hoax has three discrediting functions-
1) Discredit the science of global warming, especially Senate Bill 517.
2) Discredit the science of psychological warfare by making it "magical vibes and frequencies."
3) Discredit everything it touches with the 'naw, can't be' guilt-by-association.
Joe Hillshoist wrote:Orgone was term coined by Wilhelm Reich.
He was a bit odd himself.
From here:
http://www.wilhelmreichmuseum.org/biography.html
He wrote a few good books too.
He even had his books burned by the US government, allegedly.
Joe Hillshoist wrote:[
Hugh you are a classic, (edit -.) sometimes you are nearly as bad as dragon.
I don't use junk science.
I didn't claim that I had made Arizona "green top to bottom."
I didn't claim to make all the sailors on a ship sick with my mind.
I didn't claim to control nuclear rods with my mind.
I didn't claim lots of other nonsense that y'all think is cute or metaphorical or religious or just plain enigmatic and fun.
What makes you think that wilhelmreichmuseum.org isn't the same hostile government co-opting the man's memory to keep the 'orgone' hoax going for the global warming disinfo campaign?
I'm not sure why you aren't more skeptical of your sources on Reich and 'orgone.'
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