Effort to bump 'Operation Mockingbird' from searches?

by **robertdreed** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:53 pm

"Operation Condor/ Three Days of the Condor" That example doesn't fly, either- unless you're of the mind the the Latin American secret police conclave that officially inaugurated Operation Condor in November 1975 gave it that name with the knowledge that Sydney Pollack's already-published book by that name was soon to be a major motion picture. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=robertdreed>robertdreed</A> at: 10/1/06 7:54 pm

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:03 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>unless you're of the mind the the Latin American secret police conclave that officially inaugurated Operation Condor in November 1975 gave it that name with the knowledge that Sydney Pollack's already-published book by that name was soon to be a major motion picture.<hr></blockquote> lol. Couldn't be the other way around, hunh? The CIA knowing of Operation Condor in the year of the Church Senate subcommittee hearings on CIA abuses with beans spilling all over the press. The military-intelligence ties to Hollywood are old and deep. Look at the history of the book and movie 'The Manchurian Candidate.' Covering up US activities by projecting them on the enemy.

by **orz** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:14 am

No, it probably couldn't be. There's no actual evidence to suggest that there is any real relation between the two things. In addition you can't keep backing up your argument by, when one theory is disputed, saying "well this other equally tenuous and unlikely theory proves it" <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:51 pm

(orz, I'm cross-posting this from the Garrison Keillor 9/11 thread.) Re: orz comment <blockquote>Quote:<hr>you make a post with a specific claim that is indistinguishable from paranioa, and then when called on it you start saying you were speaking generally<hr></blockquote> "Indistinguishable from paranoia" Now there's a blanket dismissive statement. I notice others have a tendency to set up straw men of things I didn't say, demand unobtainable "proofs," and fail to understand the value of putting a topic on the table as an invitation to think or just for the value of keeping it on the table for new readers in the spirit of grassroots education. But I don't say their posts are "indistinguishable from nihilism." My recent Operation Mockingbird is a case in point. I didn't "claim" that librarians where using Banned Book Day to help the CIA. I suggested it could be used opportunistically and even analyzed the official Banned Book list and suggested better ones with links to the ones that are available online. Lots of info from me and your welcome. sheesh. I gave means-motive-opportunity-precedent-evidence of keyword hijacking to obscure OTHER spook projects and dirty laundry because I think it is important to understand this along with OpMock itself. It was an educational warning, not "a claim." You see, orz, when there is a quesion mark in the thread title that mean it is a question. Atleast, here in the USA. If you read the thread you'll see that I gave quite a detailed explication of how a nice group of people could be used as a CIA-front for keyword hijacking due to the word in the name of the group and demographics. I showed book publishing and internet examples. Who else is doing any grassroots education of COINTELPRO-style infowar tactics that you know of anywhere? I have a massive library on Cold War communications research and study social engineering, propaganda, and psychological warfare by studying the neurobiology, psychology, sociology, and history of the last 100 years. And you? So, orz, if you don't see it, fine. I always want to communicate better.

by **orz** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 3:45 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>"Indistinguishable from paranoia" Now there's a blanket dismissive statement.<hr></blockquote> No, it's a very specific statement of fact: I, personally, have no way of distinguishing the claims of you, personally, from paranoid delusions. Here is my understanding of your claims based on you posts. Your specific theories are formed by noting words which relate to the issues you're interested in, and theorising that they are intended as propaganda against those issues. Your admirable research doesn't actually seem enter into the formation of these theories beyond having at some point convinced you that, generally speaking, pop culture contains hidden messages from the CIA. A paranoid could come up with the exact same theory without copy and pasting from ancient government documents, and it would be equally valid, which is to say not at all. While you claim "keyword hijacking" is used to detract from the public's knowledge, you have never explained let alone proved that any of your examples have had any specific effect to this end. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>You see, orz, when there is a quesion mark in the thread title that mean it is a question. Atleast, here in the USA.<hr></blockquote> Here in the UK we have this thing called a rhetorical question... <blockquote>Quote:<hr>I have a massive library on Cold War communications research and study social engineering, propaganda, and psychological warfare by studying the neurobiology, psychology, sociology, and history of the last 100 years. And you?<hr></blockquote> I have an extensive collection of nametags and hairnets. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"> (sorry, you won't get that, because movies and comedy are both evil.)

by **professorpan** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:41 pm

I miss robertdreed.

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:08 am

I miss robertdreed, too. I recently read an excellent article about South America that was his.

I wonder if he'd be interested to know that when the novel '6 Days of the Condor' came out which 'Three Days of the Condor' is based on...that the James Earl Ray patsy-for-MLK's-death saga included a Canadian mystery at 6 Condor Street.

Two birds..or condors...with one stone.
Two USG spook covert ops. Same keyword.
One movie with Richard Helms invited to the set according to Sydney Pollack in a 1976 interview.

I wonder if robertdreed would be interested to know that the author of '6 Days of the Condor,' James Grady, is now associated with disinfo authors like...Dan Moldea.

Thicker and thicker...

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/04/28/f-james-earl-ray.html

Canadian connection in the Martin Luther King assassination
CBC Investigation into James Earl Ray's Toronto odyssey
Last Updated: Monday, April 28, 2008
.....
6 Condor Ave.

At one point on the Monday, Ray said he was stopped by a policeman in Toronto for jaywalking. When asked for his name and address, Ray said he was Eric S. Galt, and his address was 6 Condor Street.

During his committee testimony in 1977, Ray claimed he had that address from a woman he wrote to through a Lonely Hearts Club ad in a girlie magazine.

It turns out that 6 Condor was owned and inhabited by Jeannine Roberts and George Kapakos. Roberts was known to police as the madam of the brothel at that address and Kapakos was an ex-con with several underworld contacts. Kapakos is now deceased and the whereabouts of Roberts is not known.

Kapakos "wore a shoulder holster with a gun in it," according to Sylvester Chaves, who lived next door to 6 Condor. "He was always armed. The place got shot up one night, too, and the police took to sitting outside in unmarked cars.

"All these women would arrive by taxi and there would be men coming or leaving in the wee hours of the morning."

Because the jaywalking incident did not come to light until months after Ray's arrest, 6 Condor was never investigated as a possible refuge or for possible collaborators.

What's more, police found a map of Toronto that Ray left behind, which was full of circles of places they believe he visited. His two rooming houses were circled, as were the addresses of Bridgman and Sneyd. Police believe he had checked these out to determine if he bore any resemblance to the two men.

Another circle is around the home of a waitress named Blanche whom he slept with, while another contains 6 Condor Ave. but is listed in police records as an unexplained location at Leslie and the CNR tracks, so the Condor address was not examined at the time.

"There really needs to be a follow-up on the activity around 6 Condor," says Hughes, who was the officer handling the Memphis police radio the night of the assassination. "I think that can shed some light on where Ray was for those missing two days, and quite possibly, how he had the time to come up with the two false identifications he used."

by **brainpanhandler** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:18 am

I've read this thread and I'm sorry I missed Robertdreed. Where'd he go?

by **professorpan** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:48 am

Probably someplace more sane.

by **Jeff** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:20 pm

I don't think Robert's posted since we moved from ezboard.

Effort to bump 'Operation Mockingbird' from searches?

Operation Condor/3 Days Of The Condor

Re: Operation Condor/3 Days Of The Condor

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Re: no

no

6 Condor Street-Richard Helms>the set of Pollack's 'Condo

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