New RFK murder disinfo uses...keyword hijacking.

by **professorpan** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:23 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>But it is, well...as if you thought I was threatening you. And I'm not, I assure you. This board is about...what? Psychological manipulation by spooks? Something like that.<hr></blockquote> I'm not threatened by you, Hugh. As for my alleged keyword framing, I would suggest I'm using words, which are vehicles for conveying meaning. Try as I might to understand your arguments, I'll forever be tarred as misrepresenting them. But I wish you could understand that criticism does not equal misrepresentation. I've carefully listened to your theories and tried to be cogent in my critiques. I don't understand your last sentence, or what you're trying to communicate with it -- certainly psychological manipulation by spooks is germane to the the board. But half-baked, unsupported theories thrown about like confetti are ripe for analysis and criticism. If you keep offering up examples of your theory, you should expect them to be analyzed in a rigorous fashion. That's how some of us operate in our quest to separate the junk from the good stuff.

by **professorpan** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:48 pm

I looked at the PROBE New Age conference website again. Hugh, have you ever been to a new age conference/expo? They're usually organized by a couple of people, make very little money, and in the past decade or so have seen reduced turnout from the new age revival in the late 80s and 90s. I suspect this event was no different than most. Slim was there -- but why would you believe an eyewitness account if it doesn't support your metaconspiracy? The energy, resources, and chain of events to make this conference a "hijacking" is phenomenal. Seems like a waste of energy to organize a small expo just to obscure an article about RFK's assasination that many people wouldn't find without serious searching. Have you done Web searches for RFK and Probe? I get page after page of links to the Pease article, and zero -- zero -- to the conference. That's after doing the search on several of the major search engines. But reality has never been an issue in your KH theorizing. You have no problem calling people you have never met liars (including the school teachers who initially organized the Paper Clips Project). If I contacted the teachers, and they contradicted your story, would you believe them? Or would you continue to call them liars? Does evidence ever sway your beliefs? Did Lisa Pease ever return your email? I am not psychic, but I'd bet you $20 you won't get a reply.

by **orz** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:40 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>How many times can you do that to one poster before it becomes a threat?<hr></blockquote> Only one way to find out! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:58 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Did Lisa Pease ever return your email? I am not psychic, but I'd bet you $20 you won't get a reply.<hr></blockquote> She did reply. Yesterday. You can keep the $20. She just offered general support for my efforts and encouraged me to definitely post what I did at Jeff's site so it wasn't coming just from her and also spread the word about the Probe articles. That's it. Here is the disinfo article Pease debunked 1/18/05- <a href="http://www.robertfkennedy.net/manchuriancandidate.htm">www.robertfkennedy.net/ma...didate.htm</a> And here is her debunking of it- <a href="http://realhistoryarchives.blogspot.com/2005/01/is-nemesis-black-book.html">realhistoryarchives.blogs...-book.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>I would love to lay out the evidence in scholarly detail to support all I want to say in great detail, and might yet at some future date. But frankly, the ridiculously absurd, ill-supported theory in Peter Evans’ book Nemesis doesn’t deserve it. I had only to hear the premise to know something was amiss. ..... But I did believe I was witnessing the birth of a new disinformation campaign, and mentioned it to a few people at the time.<hr></blockquote> "But I did believe I was witnessing the birth of a new disinformation campaign, and mentioned it to a few people at the time." New movies that touch on CIA crimes will do that, won't they? Emelio Estevez began casting his RFK film in 2005 and it's opening November 17, 2006. Prof Pan, I could be mistaken about there being the specific tactic of keyword hijacking involved with the use of "Probe" in this instance. But I'm absolutely right about KH of Paperclip and Eichmanns. Absolutely, no question about it. I make no claims to infallibility. None. Do I really need to say that? Obviously, that would be irrational. But I'm not wrong about the RFK disinfo here. (Don't bother to roll your eyes, orz, nobody at RI claims infallibility. Read on.) I'll repeat this for you - Perhaps the word 'Probe' is not a keyword hijacking. But everything else IS bloody well disinfo from Dean's "thwarted revelations" to TheTruthSeeker.co.uk to the topics advertised as being discussed at the New Age conference. And thus it is rational and within reasonable bounds to expect KH to happen when it has happened before. Not paranoid. So the choice of weapon is the only thing I see open to debate here, not the crime. Understand the distinction? And that weapon is really used and has been. So... That doesn't invalidate that KH happens. Others confirm it. That doesn't invalidate that it happened using 'Paperclip.' That doesn't invalidate that it happened using 'Eichmanns.' That doesn't invalidate that the words attributed to Dean are disinfo. That doesn't invalidate that New Age isn't loaded with disinfo. That doesn't invalidate that there's massive disinfo around Dean's attributed topics of JFK, RFK, MLK, PanAm 103, and missing children. Did you notice that Dean is attributed with claiming a beam weapon took down PanAm 103? How much disinfo do you need to notice it? 'Bobby' the movie is opening on November 17, 2006 on the coasts and November 23, 2006 in the rest of the country. Just weeks away and I anticipate some professional diversions, obviously. Everytime a book or movie of significant visibility on JFK and RFK's murder has come out, there was a pre-emptive disinfo campaign to predispose people to either not see the expose or to disbelieve it when they did see it. See 'Gerald Posner.' See 'Dan Moldea.' See 'Chip Berlet.' The Operation Mockingbirds shredded Oliver Stone's 'JFK' for months before it even came out. Lisa Pease herself debunked a disinfo story about RFK that had Aristotle Onassis as the villain on 1/18/05 and I expect that Emelio Estevez' movie 'Bobby' has and will precipitate more nonsense like Dean and his 'RFK + Anti-Christ exposure thwarted by a beam weapon remote-control murder just like PanAm 103.' (Any newpaper actually reporting Dean's shocking demise?) <a href="http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/bobby.html">movies.yahoo.com/feature/bobby.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>'Bobby" Drama and Politics November 17th (NY/LA) November 23rd (wide) Starring: Anthony Hopkins, Demi Moore, Sharon Stone, Lindsay Lohan, Elijah Wood, William H. Macy, Helen Hunt, Christian Slater, Laurence Fishburne, Nick Cannon, Joshua Jackson, Joy Bryant, Freddy Rodriguez, Shia LaBeouf, Martin Sheen Full Cast & Credits... Directed By: Emilio Estevez Synopsis: 22 individuals at the Ambassador Hotel in 1968 anticipate Robert Kennedy's arrival at the primary election night party, which would change their lives forever. This historic night is set against the cultural issues gripping the country at the time, including racism, sexual inequality and class differences.<hr></blockquote> The event of the arrival of this film is a show to be watched, especially if you know what to look for. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 10/11/06 10:40 pm

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:04 pm

(I started a thread with this and warned Jeff.) I've long thought that much online anti-semitism isn't genuine but is a device to discredit certain targets by linking to them. I was right. A disinformation website called TheTruthSeeker.co.uk has listed Jeff Wells and Robert Fisk and Dahr Jamail as "its columnists" in an effort to rope them into Holocaust denial by association. This is an internet infowar tactic to discredit investigative work by first luring in a range of internet readers with hot topics like 9/11 or alternative medicine. But sprinkled around the disinfo site, mostly unnoticed, are anti-Jewish articles placed like landmines for the controlled-demolition of the credibility of information from investigative journalists placed on the disinfo site. The 9/11-heavy links on the front page of TheTruthSeeker - <a href="http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/">www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/</a> A Holocaust Denial link on front page of TheTruthSeeker - <a href="http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/link.asp?ID=5252&URL=http://www.vho.org/GB/c/DC/index.html">www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/...index.html</a> (More on David Cole at Auschwitz Video: David Cole at Auschwitz) <blockquote>Quote:<hr>But there are some people who maintain these claims of mass murder have never been proven. These people point to the lack of documentation other than the highly questionable and partially discredited evidence supplied by the Soviet Union at the Nuremberg Trials and the unreliable nature of the eyewitness testimonies, many of which have also been discredited. (For example, many former camp inmates, as well as American soldiers, still speak of "gassing" at the Dachau camp in Germany, even though it is no longer held that any [homicidal] gas chamber was ever in use at that camp.) Still, the Holocaust is an event that has seemingly grown in importance since the end of the war, taught as fact...usually accepted without question. But how do we know it really happened? What "proofs" are offered for those not willing to take history on faith alone?<hr></blockquote> The fake list of "columnists" on front page of TheTruthSeeker - <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Columnists • Charley Reese • Christopher Bollyn • Dahr Jamail • Greg Szymanski • Henry Makow Ph.D. • Israel Shamir • Joe Vialls • John Kaminski • John Pilger • Kurt Nimmo • Paul Joseph Watson • Rigorous Intuition • Riverbend • Rixon Stewart • Robert Fisk • T Stokes • Uri Avnery • Wayne Madsen • Xymphora<hr></blockquote> Here's TheTruthSeeker's link to 'Rigorous Intuition - <a href="http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/columnist.asp?ID=16">www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/....asp?ID=16</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Rigorous Intuition Jeff Wells, a Canadian writer and commentator, who describes himself as “cautiously pessimistic” Sort order: Most recent first, Oldest first, A to Z Al Qaeda Tapes: Direct Link To Military Psyops And Donald Rumsfeld Inside, Outside Duck's Head Soup Chant Down Babylon In the Air Iraq’s Hutu Radio What Lies Beneath Why They Fight Full Spectral Dominance (Part Two) Full Spectral Dominance (Part One) Bad medicine (Part Two) Bad Medicine (Part One) My baby needs a shepherd “And your little dog, too” What about Bob? In the Colosseum The Left, the Right and the Wrong It’s All in Your Mind Phantoms, Daemons and Finders “The Birth Pangs of a New Order” Bill Bennett and the Great White Brotherhood "You Can’t Go Home Again" It doesn't take a weatherman Carry on Killing The Fortune in Men’s Eyes Army Times: "Troops begin combat operations in New Orleans" Catastrophic Success What Do Kids Know? Walpurgisnacht The boy who cried Wolfowitz The Annotated ‘German Guy’<hr></blockquote>

by **professorpan** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:20 pm

That's certainly possible, Hugh. On the other hand, many sites use similar tactics to expand their site's content. One of my articles -- Sex, Drugs, Mind Control, and Torture -- was hijacked by a bunch of site, including Rense. There may be no agenda other than stealing content.

Website · by **MinM** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:12 pm

The Man From U.N.C.L.E. gets in on the act...

I know who was behind Bobby Kennedy's murder, by his actor friend Robert Vaughn
By Robert Vaughn
Last updated at 10:57 AM on 12th January 2009

The accused: Tycoon Aristotle Onassis and glamorous friends at a party in Paris in 1974

Meeting of minds: Robert Vaughn, left, with Bobby Kennedy, right, and Norman Topping, president of the University of Southern California, in 1965

Riddles remain over the murder of Bobby Kennedy, pictured a moment after he was shot

Jackie Kennedy with Onassis after their 1968 wedding. His intrusion into the Kennedys' lives was deeply resented by Bobby...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... aughn.html

BTW .. Vaughn's little buddy from 'UNCLE' stars in NCIS now:

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... hp?t=22211

New RFK murder disinfo uses...keyword hijacking.

Re: Prof Pan's keyword framing

Probe

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Re: Prof Pan asks

Re: TheTruthSeeker is a disinfo site - I'll PROVE it, PP.

Re: TheTruthSeeker is a disinfo site - I'll PROVE it, PP.

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