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Going Hollywood

Postby rain » Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:49 am

LOL Hugh ...<br><br>it's a lovely little sulky puff piece (did I say mis/disinfo or just pleading the bad historiography aka ' I can't recall ')<br><br>------<br><br>Going Hollywood. CIA officials are taking the cue and expanding their outreach efforts. "It's part of the job," says one official. "You're expected to reach out." CIA analysts last year met with academics and outside experts at some 100 conferences or meetings each month, according to the agency's chief of intelligence, John Kringen. Among the more active groups: the CIA's secretive Red Cell unit, formed after 9/11 to think up "out of the box" scenarios, and the little-known Global Futures Partnership, which runs a handful of invitation-only conferences around the world to look at long-term trends and strategic issues. With Rand, the GFP ran a series of one-day workshops on how to encourage critical analysis, bringing in over 30 outside experts from fields as varied as artificial intelligence, diplomatic history, and cognitive psychology. Also active is the CIA's Office of Transnational Issues, whose conferences have focused on infectious diseases, "unconventional" security threats, and U.S. global competitiveness in information technology. The CIA has also sponsored a Cyber-Influence Conference Series, which has met, among other places, in Hollywood to discuss the "strategic use" of the Internet, computer games, movies, and entertainment against U.S. adversaries<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/061029/6outreach_2.htm">www.usnews.com/usnews/new...each_2.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>that's from pg 2.<br><br>pg 1 -<br><br>At a modest office building just outside Boston last July, senior U.S. intelligence officials quietly set in motion an unusual experiment. For four weeks, a handpicked group of 20 outside experts brainstormed, argued, and chewed the fat with 20 top analysts from the CIA and eight other intelligence agencies. Their mission: to understand why people join terrorist organizations and other groups engaged in antisocial activity. The issues went to some of the most basic questions confronting Washington's intelligence mandarins: What's driving the spread of extremism around the globe, and how can it be stopped? <br><br>Dubbed the Summer Hard Problems workshop, or SHARP, the program is modeled after a highly successful project by the code-breaking National Security Agency, which for years has brought in top mathematicians to tackle cutting-edge issues in encryption. SHARP similarly threw together leading specialists, but from the social sciences: experts in anthropology, social psychology, insurgency, and Islamic thought, among other fields. But for all the esoteric talk about jihadism, group dynamics, and social networks, the SHARP participants had a second mission: to change the way U.S. intelligence agencies do their job, by opening the notoriously insular espionage community to the rest of the world. <br><br>SHARP is the brainchild of the 18-month-old Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which is charged with overseeing and reforming the nation's sprawling $44 billion intelligence community. Key to that effort is an organized attack on the kind of "groupthink" that resulted in U.S. intelligence agencies getting dead wrong, among other things, nearly every facet of Saddam Hussein's banned weapons programs. Reformers at the DNI and other agencies hope to answer critics who call the nation's spy agencies obsolete-a bunch of big bureaucracies so addicted to secrecy that they can't cope in the Internet age. "This culture of secrecy in an information-rich world is totally anachronistic," says Phil Williams, an international security expert at the University of Pittsburgh who often consults with intelligence agencies. <br><br>Wiki-spies? To help change the way the nation's espionage agencies do business, senior DNI officials are pushing an effort unlike any seen since the height of the Vietnam War, nearly 40 years ago. The SHARP workshop is but one of a wide array of outreach projects now underway, involving millions of dollars in contracts, fellowships, conferences-even wikis and blogs-directed at scholars and other outside experts. DNI officials are mindful of the past, when Vietnam War-era funding drew loud protests on campus, amid charges that the CIA had skewed academic research on Asian studies and secretly backed groups like the National Student Association. The new effort has also begun to stir controversy, but for those who respond, the rewards can be considerable, including contracts, lucrative stipends, and a chance to influence analysis at the CIA and 15 other intelligence agencies. The scope is broad: A classified DNI survey this year yielded 240 pages of outreach efforts involving virtually every U.S. agency that generates intelligence information. Those interested (and invited) enter a world of exclusive conferences, workshops, studies, sabbaticals, and scholarships. Participants include not only academics but experts at think tanks, international groups, foundations, and businesses, as well as medical doctors and scientists. "The intelligence community will never be big enough, will never have enough analysts," says Thomas Fingar, the DNI's chief of analysis. "There's an absolute need to go outside."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/061029/6outreach.htm">www.usnews.com/usnews/new...treach.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>LOL <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>you go girl. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Going Hollywood

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:03 am

Thanks for this confirmation, rain. Great find. <br>Culture warriors conspiring. Hmph.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The CIA has also sponsored a Cyber-Influence Conference Series, which has met, among other places, in Hollywood to discuss the "strategic use" of the Internet, computer games, movies, and entertainment against U.S. adversaries.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>They've been doing this a long time already. <br><br>Prof Pan? You've been quiet for a while. Care to comment? Perhaps apologize for calling me paranoid and "lacking the courage to do honest research"? Oh, that was a beaut. lol. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CIA Going to College...again.

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:08 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Bad old days. </strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>Another point of contention is scholarships funded by the intelligence community. At least three scholarship programs are doling out millions of dollars to prospective analysts and spies-up to $25,000 annually per student-for study of key languages and regions such as China, central Asia, and the Middle East. One particularly controversial scholarship is the Pat Roberts Intelligence Scholars Program, which funds about 100 students. It has been denounced by some scholars because its recipients perform internships at intelligence agencies and remain unidentified to professors and classmates-a reminder for some of the bad old days of the 1960s, when the FBI and CIA kept tabs on the political views of U.S. professors. Critics like Price also argue that rather than opening intelligence-agency minds, the scholarships may have the opposite effect, pigeonholing young scholars prematurely and fostering the very kind of groupthink that reformers hope to avoid.<br><br>Along with money for intelligence training and study, other funds are pouring into campuses for homeland security and terrorism studies. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The National Academic Consortium for Homeland Security, founded in 2003, now counts over 350 member colleges and universities. The Department of Homeland Security is putting $82 million into a half-dozen universities, funding so-called Centers of Excellence that look at security issues and counterterrorism strategy.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> The DNI is considering whether to expand the idea across the intelligence community, with other agencies funding similar centers.<br><br>The ties between academia and the intelligence community have long blown hot and cold. As many as half of America's anthropologists joined the war effort during the 1940s, working for military intelligence and the CIA's predecessor, the Office of Special Services. Both the OSS and the early CIA drew heavily from Ivy League faculty among various departments. But during the Vietnam War, anthropologists were implicated in work on classified projects linked to counterinsurgency operations in Thailand. The resulting firestorm prompted ethics rules within the profession, prohibiting secret research or reports. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: CIA Going to College...again.

Postby rain » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:14 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Pat Roberts Intelligence <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>is that an oxymoron ?<br><br>here he is mixin' it with the metaphors<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>“Well, we have a situation where the DCI, George Tenet - and it’s very easy to go back and pick out a certain statement. Of course, his most famous one is ‘slam dunk.’ <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>There isn’t any slam dunk in intelligence. You don’t bat, you know, 1,000 percent. I mean, you’re lucky if you bat, you know, 500 percent</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. The information that was provided to the president and to the Congress that led to the same kind of assertive comments that the same critics are now blaming the president for was flawed. What he said is what he got, and what he got was wrong, and I think he was right to challenge it at the time.” <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/roberts-coverup/">thinkprogress.org/roberts-coverup/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Graham Greene, you're my hero.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Going Hollywood

Postby professorpan » Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:26 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Prof Pan? You've been quiet for a while. Care to comment? Perhaps apologize for calling me paranoid and "lacking the courage to do honest research"? Oh, that was a beaut. lol.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>First, I have never suggested that the CIA and other intelligence agencies don't try to meddle in popular media -- so stop suggesting that I do. How much influence they actually wield -- that's worth investigating and discussing. You jump to the the conclusion that this confirms all your theories -- I don't.<br><br>Your theories, for the most part, are built upon your overactive dot-connecting and rampant speculation -- one very extreme example is your linking of a film producer with German ancestry to Nazism (see the NYT keyword hijacking thread). The basic rules of logic and reason don't apply to your theorizing -- only innuendo and guilt-by-association. Since I lead an active life, and have limited time to write, work, and play, I have to prioritize things.<br><br>I'd rather spend my time addressing concrete, actionable crimes and psyops than chasing phantoms. There's a lot of work to be done -- and I'll spend my time pointing out things people can verify and bring to light, versus constructing elaborate, unverifiable theories that lack any substantive, confirmatory evidence. It's just a matter of priorities.<br><br>That's the difference between us, Hugh. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Pan's distortion

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:52 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Your theories, for the most part, are built upon your overactive dot-connecting and rampant speculation -- <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>one very extreme example is your linking of a film producer with German ancestry to Nazism</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>What a gross distortion of my posting Peter Schroeder's actual...personal...own website to show <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>his Rovian career and work with a CIA cut-out called The Johnson Group to manipulate US history taught to American children.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Hmm. Why such a distortion, PP? Do you approve of the <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Nazi-rescuing/financing CIA teaching our kids about Nazis?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>I sure as hell don't.<br><br>Here's what I actally posted and what you mangled into implying kneejerk racism on my part-<br><br>**************************<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm27.showMessage?topicID=450.topic">p216.ezboard.com/frigorou...=450.topic</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Decoy film hides US-Nazi connection from US school kids. <br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>This movie is a decoy being given to America's kids by a CIA cut-out film company to hide the US-Nazi connection exemplified by the grandfather of George W. Bush, Prescott Bush who was found to be aiding the enemy in 1942. Even John Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles were funneling big corporate money to build the Nazi Party in the 1920s and 1930s.<br><br>The mastermind behind this whitewash of US-Nazi history is a German public relations consultant named Peter Schroeder who is an international Karl Rove-type-<br>www.polcon.de/en/peterschroeder.htm<br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> 1971- 1978 General secretary of the federal state organisation of the liberal Free Democratic Party (F.D.P.) in Schleswig Holstein<br><br> 1978 - 1982 Head of "Department for communications and elections" in the headquarter of the party and at the same time head of "Department for training and programmes" in the Friedrich-Naumann-Foundation.<br> 1982 - 1987 Director of the advertising agency for social marketing (BOSS).<br><br> Since 1987 Director of the "Institute for communication researches" and lecturer for political sciences at the "Cologne School for Politics and economy" in Cologne.<br><br> Other assignments since 1987 as freelance consultant:<br> Planning for political strategies, consulting in political communications, training adult educators and managers.<br><br> Consultation for parties, politicians, non-governmental-organisations, governments, local authorities in strategies for elections, conflict management and negotiations and projects of decentralisation, deregulation, new public management.<br><br> Consultations in more than 60 countries in all parts of the world.<br> ....<br> Planning of strategies for policies, business and personal career.<br><br> With our special strategy-planning instrument for political, business and interpersonal acitivities we are successful in implementing difficult policies as privatization, participation, creating new levels of administration, deregulation, decentralization, fighting corruption and fundamentalism as well as winning elections, stabilizing governments and making opposition more effective.<br> The instrument is also effective in planning market-strategies for companies to enlarge the market share or to stabilize the market. Even for the preparation of career planning and interaction with other persons this flexible instrument, which has been influenced by different cultural areas and personalities (von Clausewitz, Macchiavelli, Kautilya, Sun Tzu), is suitable.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br><br>Yes, Macchiavelli can plan your propaganda, too! For $1000 a day plus expenses.<br><br>Schroeder was instrumental in getting this decoy project off the ground going so far as to come up with an authentic Nazi railroad car to be flown to the tiny town in Tennessee where a middle school project on tolerance was germinating, pun intended.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.washingtonian.com/people/03/paperclips.html">www.washingtonian.com/peo...clips.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br> The project might have died, too, were it not for Lena Gitter, a Washington Holocaust survivor, and her friends Peter Schroeder, 61, and Dagmar Schroeder-Hildebrand, 60, journalists who cover the White House for a German-language newspaper group.<br><br> The Schroeders have lived in Washington for 23 years, mostly covering US politics. They often have written about the Holocaust.<br><br> “We are the last generation who will know this,” Dagmar says. “We have a certain responsibility as Germans.”<br><br> When the Schroeders moved to Washington in 1980, Dagmar met Lena Gitter through the local German club. Peter was so intrigued by her life that he wrote a book about her.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br>Peter Schroeder isn't exactly "a journalist."<br>He is a political consultant and propagandist.<br><br>******************************** <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Pan's distortion

Postby professorpan » Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:44 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Hmm. Why such a distortion, PP? Do you approve of the Nazi-rescuing/financing CIA teaching our kids about Nazis?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I don't have to approve or disapprove things that <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>don't exist.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Can you take part in any conversation on this board without dragging in the freaking keyword hijacking crap? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Pan's question

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:51 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Can you take part in any conversation on this board without dragging in the freaking keyword hijacking crap?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Um...you brought KH into this thread.<br><br> <!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>professorpan<br>Registered Member<br>Posts: 1347<br>(10/31/06 10:26 am)<br>Reply<br>....<br>one very extreme example is your linking of a film producer with German ancestry to Nazism (<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>see the NYT keyword hijacking thread</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->)<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dspolitic/pm/1942/20309cs.jpg" style="border:0;"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Pan's question

Postby professorpan » Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:03 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Um...you brought KH into this thread.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>This is <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>so</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> stale. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Pan's question

Postby FourthBase » Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:05 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>At a modest office building just outside Boston last July<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I wonder where... <p></p><i></i>
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