Johnny Gosch update

[sunny]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Unpublished report? Why has it gone unpublished?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/kidhistory/mcmartin.htm" target="top">From here</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Such ambiguity led to some dissension among the parents and the burdensome decision to commission a professional, scientific study. From that point, established April 21, 1990, the project was impeded both by a conspicuous absence of funds and a diminishing number of participating parents. The financial and organizational responsibility settled on only one parent, Jackie McGauley, who, not unlike her one-time friend, Judy Johnson, is a single parent of two children, struggling to make ends meet, without traditional ties to other McMartin parental circles. Even the post-traumatic camaraderie that had once defined a larger parental affiliation had long since dissipated into somewhat alienated factions critical of one another for their divergent responses to the experience (9)<br><br>This left just one person responsible for soliciting funding for the project itself and the production of the report, with no apparent institution or avenue available for ultimate publication and distribution. Commercial publishers have a ready market for outrageously opinionated books like Paul and Shirley Eberles' The Abuse of Innocence: The McMartin Preschool Trial. (10) Such revisionist manifestos proclaim a conspiracy of misguided prosecutors, therapists and parents as the sole abusers of the children. Who will pay for a dry, scholarly treatise that only implies that something monstrous really happened, especially if the report is promoted by the last remaining parental zealot? There is no really legitimate institution for rehabilitation of children's's stifled complaints of mysterious exploitation.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>**********<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Judy Johnson saw blood on her infant's diaper and has paid a terrible price for trying to find how it got there. Other McMartin parents, now distilled down to the essence of one, tried to find evidence for their children's complaints, only to be reviled as a malicious threat to world serenity. Jackie McGauley has a hard-won documentation of physical evidence to share. Who will buy it?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br> <p></p><i></i>

[biaothanatoi]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I have no doubt that the whole “Conspiracy of Silence/ Franklin cover-up” nonsense is being exploited by Jihadists to inflame hatred of Americans throughout the Arab world.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>This train of thought is farcical - I don't think it's real, I think the poster has consciously concocted something here. What is particularly odd is that he is across the material. Why does he know about Kerr Cuhulain, and why does he call him by his craft name and not his actual name?<br><br>The main "debunkers" of McMartin were dirty - the Eberles ran child porn in the 70s, Underwager was an avowed pro-paedophile activist. This guy may just be a poseur (all the info he's provided is in the public domain, after all) but there is something about the ridiculous jihad claim that really smells to me.<br><br>I'm concerned with how active perps are online. Wikipedia is a good example - take a look at the entries on "Michael Aquino" (written by Aquino and patrolled by his minions), "Satanic Ritual Abuse" and "snuff movies". Try changing the SRA entry. I dare you!<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[rain]

who is<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Kerr Cuhulain<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> ?<br> <p></p><i></i>

[biaothanatoi]

Kerr Cuhulain is a Wiccan police officer in the states who wrote a primer for cops on dealing with witchcraft/wiccans, and who has obsessively and slanderously "debunked" ritual abuse allegations in numerous articles on the witchcraft website Witchvox.<br><br>Basically, according to Cuhulain, you, me and everyone who claims that ritual abuse is real are Christian fundamentalists who have invented ritual abuse as a way of whipping up hatred against alternative spiritualities, etc. etc. etc. There isn't a public figure in this field that hasn't been publicly slandered by Cuhulain. <p></p><i></i>

[Et in Arcadia ego]

edit:double post? <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sickle666.com/images/Arcadia.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 9/5/06 11:49 am<br></i>

[Et in Arcadia ego]

So many things have returned to me from memory in the course of reading this discussion. I was given the 'Satan Seller" to read at a very early age while recovering from drug addiction in a Miami mental health program. I admired the author afar as someone else who 'broke free' of Magick like myself, but had no idea what he was really about until decades later when the internet exposed this person for what he was. I'm too exhausted to get into it now, and that's not directly relavant to the discussion at hand, but peripherally, at least twice in my not-so-good drug recovery as an adolescant I was offered to be enrolled at Boy's Town..I didn't make the connection to this very old, forgotten memory until very recently trying to absorb everything you've all been saying..I kept wondering why 'Boy's Town' seemed so familiar.<br><br>Edit: Big Mistake in names here, it was NOT Aquino I was talking about, but Mike Warnke as the book author, and in the original post I indicated I was only influenced by his book and never actually met him in person. My mistake was in thinking that Aquino was the author of the Satan Seller, as I made this post very late last night when the memory hit me and was already half-asleep. Between the ages of 12-16, I spent time in several drug rehabs and it was often attempted to get me to join long(er) term communities, and Boys Town was one of them. I'm glad to say I never went there, btw, so please, no concerns over that. As a youth, I was my own worst enemy and was never involved in anything like these programs aside from the suggestion I <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>go</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> to it as a form of 'after-care'..<br><br>Very sorry about the error; it was very late and I was grasping at understanding something that snuck up and bit me rather hard. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sickle666.com/images/Arcadia.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 9/5/06 1:00 pm<br></i>

[sunny]

et, your post has frightened me a little. Do elaborate, if you are so inclined. <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

Et, you were offered by Aquino himself???<br><br>biaothanatoi, your contributions on the SRA wiki discussion page are amazing, keep up the great work! <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

More creepy shit from Roy Harrold on the crimeblog comments:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Kerr Cuhulain is a genuine hero.<br>He was an officer in our Air Force before his twenty year career as a police officer.<br>He’s no traffic cop, either - he served on the Gang Unit and the SWAT team. <br><br>It was an honor for me to be a part of his organization.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>He posted a response to IAG quoting Stickel/Summit.<br>I'm eagerly awaiting the response from IAG or JG. <p></p><i></i>

[blanc]

interjecting to take issue with suggestion that the motives of posters are voyeurism etc . I and several regular posters on ra subjects in discussion have more gory details in our heads and in our records than I presume you can imagine. several of us are either survivors of mc/ra or supporters of survivors. The details are virtually never discussed at their goriest, for a number of reasons - principally not wishing to bring the board into disrepute by providing a primer for imitators or a stimulant for voyeurs, and out of respect for survivors themselves.<br>Discussions here, are IMO, a way of raising public awareness in order to promote the safety of children. Most (actually I should probably say all) media outlets in the mainstream are closed to this kind of information, which, for reasons often discussed, it does not please those in control to let out of the bag. <br><br>There is a systematic and heavily contrived effort to dissuade the general public from believing survivors (I have in front of me another example - the latest in a series published by the satirical mag. private eye, which I may post about later on another thread. )<br> Debunking or smearing witnesses, parents, carers - anyone who tries to help is common. These comments come close to elaborating this process by smearing those who are trying to shed some light with 'voyeurism'. That's ugly.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

blanc, you make excellent points. There are several ra/mc survivors on this board, and I for one do not wish in any way to post or provide triggers in the form of gory details. At the same time, debunkers can kiss our collective a** because I think we all want to provide survivors with a safe and supportive environment to discuss these issues in a non-judgemental and non-exploitive way. <br><br>I fervently hope that doesn't change with the influx of disinfo agents who are suddenly flooding the blogs and boards. Hmm, wonder if that means somebody is getting nervous? <p></p><i></i>

[Ted the dog]

"JG - I’m not going to dissect every aspect of the allegations, with you. If Paul Bonacci’s confession is truthful, he should be in prison. If it’s not, the whole conspiracy is a fraud. Bottom line. I will add this - if you go through the Malung TV series about the British Mosque and Imam associated with the London bombers, you will see the young Imam who was later deported giving “sermons” in which he references the allegations about Bohemian Grove and pedophilia in American government circles during his anti-zionist and anti-American rants. I have no doubt that the whole “Conspiracy of Silence/ Franklin cover-up” nonsense is being exploited by Jihadists to inflame hatred of Americans throughout the Arab world. In a sense, the conspiracy theorists may be giving a kind of “aid & comfort to the enemy” :"<br><br><br>wait, how did Conspiracy of Silence and the Franklin Cover-Up get tied-in to the Jihadists? And why the mention of conspiracy theorists giving "aid and comfort to the enemy"? <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

The comments section has been locked. <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

"....<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>you will see the young Imam who was later deported giving “sermons” in which he references the allegations about Bohemian Grove and pedophilia in American government circles during his anti-zionist and anti-American rants....</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Wow, let's just assume this is true. Then, put what the "young Imam" is saying with what people were saying in the comments section of the Des Moines Register this week, many of whom mentioned <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Conspiracy of Silence</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->. Two totally different countries, two totally different populations. Wow. This means the story of elite pedophile rings is getting some traction. What I find interesting is that most of this information is not being disseminated through the usual media sources, and yet the story is spreading. Can't you just picture the usual supsects starting to sweat, maybe even starting to think FRENCH REVOLUTION? <p></p><i></i>

[Et in Arcadia ego]

Big Mistake in names here, it was NOT Aquino I was talking about, but Mike Warnke as the book author, and in the original post I indicated I was only influenced by his book and never actually met him in person. My mistake was in thinking that Aquino was the author of the Satan Seller, as I made this post very late last night when the memory hit me and was already half-asleep. Between the ages of 12-16, I spent time in several drug rehabs and it was often attempted to get me to join long(er) term communities, and Boys Town was one of them. I'm glad to say I never went there, btw, so please, no concerns over that. As a youth, I was my own worst enemy and was never involved in anything like these programs aside from the suggestion I <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>go</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> to it as a form of 'after-care'..<br><br>Very, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>very</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> sorry for the confusion and fear; just knowing I *could* have gone there is a scary thought for me as well, but it never happened. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=etinarcadiaego@rigorousintuition>et in Arcadia ego</A>  <IMG HEIGHT=10 WIDTH=10 SRC="http://www.sickle666.com/images/Arcadia.jpg" BORDER=0> at: 9/5/06 1:01 pm<br></i>