Johnny Gosch update

[NewKid]

Can you try posting it FB and see if that works? <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

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[FourthBase]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>They could've been taken weeks or months apart.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>That still means that the kidnappers either had clothing that fit him already, or went shopping for some.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I think they look weird because they're taped or tied up at the bottom.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Christ, I didn't even notice the tape on the ankles.<br>These are really disturbing to look at, hard to focus.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It looks strange almost doctored, though I'm pretty sure its a star-pentagram. The left side fainter than the right.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Ohhh, right, I can see something pentagram-ish now.<br>To my eyes, it's the right side that's fainter.<br>I'm still bothered by a "faint" branding.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I have a hard time matching the two Johnnys aswell. But I think we can trust that Noreen knows best.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Noreen would know, absolutely.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I think we should expect Mr. Gannon to commit "suicide" soon.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Good call, we'll see. This is why we should have our own "conspiracy futures market", TIA-style. Part of the criticism of conspiracy theory is that it's "non-predictive".<br> <p></p><i></i>

[El Tedo]

This "Son of Gaia" guy posted this twice in the comments: <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://surrealitytimes.blogspot.com/2006/05/gosch-kidnapping-solved.html">gosch-kidnapping-solved</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>What do you guys think? It sounds plausible. BUT it posits that Johnny was killed shortly after his abduction, and that directly contradicts Mrs. Gosch's statement that they met face to face in '97 (i think it was '97). So is Noreen Gosch bat-shit crazy or what? I suppose the trauma of this whole ordeal could have pushed her over the edge. Does anyone else know about the "confession" Paul Bonnaci gave to Decamp quoted in this blog? <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

Yeah, ummm, Bonacci did it all by himself?<br>That's not plausible in the slightest.<br>Whoever posted that <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>might</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> have an agenda. <p></p><i></i>

[Avalon]

Son of Gaia may be making noises about how Bonnacci should be held responsible, but as I recall, Bonnaci has disappeared.<br><br>I wonder if the "forbidden" notice may just be what the server is throwing up while being overloaded with requests. <p></p><i></i>

[greencrow0]

Hmmmm...last week it was Jonbenet Ramsey<br><br>This week it's Johnny Gorsch<br><br>All the distraction that's fit to print.<br><br>gc<br> <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

From the Des Moines Register:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060831/NEWS/60831027/-1/archive">desmoinesregister.com/app...-1/archive</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>"...“Noreen did contact our detective and come in with these photos,” Miller said. 'We’ve <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>seized</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> the photos and we are in the process of researching where they came from and whether they’ve been doctored up.....'”<br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/1/06 9:37 pm<br></i>

[El Tedo]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Hmmmm...last week it was Jonbenet Ramsey<br><br>This week it's Johnny Gorsch<br><br>All the distraction that's fit to print.<br><br>gc<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I don't think this case is a distraction. The JonBenet thing was plastered EVERYWHERE. Jonbenet was the biggest scandal since OJ, this story will only crack the local news in Des Moines. It won't even make the "ticker" on CNN. No one I know knows anything about Gosch; while everyone and their Grandma knows JonBenet.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Other people connected to the case also have reported receiving copies via anonymous deliveries and the Internet...<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Who else is "connected to this case". Anonymous deliveries and emails, this just gets weirder and weirder. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=eltedo@rigorousintuition>El Tedo</A> at: 9/1/06 9:30 pm<br></i>

[chiggerbit]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"...The best possible suspect in the kidnapping of a missing child, would be a person who confessed to doing it and provided accurate description of the time, place and circumstances of the child's disappearance. Paul Bonacci...."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>Well, yes that too, but if we were being Rigorous, we would be looking at a parent/and/or the parents as hard as we have looked at the Ramseys.....or the possibility that he actually was a runaway. Looks to me like someone will be able to identify the other two kids in that one picture.<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=chiggerbit@rigorousintuition>chiggerbit</A> at: 9/1/06 9:36 pm<br></i>

[Dreams End]

the whole Johnny Gosch website is down. From the link provided by chiggerbit:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Copies of the photos that are just surfacing were sent to The Des Moines Register by James Rothstein, who said he is a former New York police detective who has followed developments on the Gosch case in retirement.<br><br>Rothstein said he was sent the photos by Noreen Gosch and Michael Corbin, a Colorado radio talk-show host who has aired programs on Gosch’s disappearance. Rothstein has acted as a criminal justice specialist for Corbin’s show, "A Closer Look."<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Corbin said Thursday he has been in contact over the past two years with a man who claims to have been another child kidnapping victim who broke away from a child-sex ring with Gosch. He said the man said his name is Jimmy Gibson and has told him he wants to speak publicly soon about their kidnappings after hiding out for years from abductors.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>“In the times that he’s contacted me (via email), he’s never had a consistent email address,” Corbin said in an interview with the Register.<br><br>“I’ve kind of teetered toward believing the veracity of what’s he said. But with these photos, I am really confused. ... If they are on the run, I’m curious as to how they got access to those photos, because they would have been in the possession of their perpetrators.”<br><br>Police recovered no evidence after Gosch’s abduction, and arrested no suspects in connection with his case. The kidnapping struck terror in the minds of many Midwestern parents afterward, causing them to keep much closer watch on their children. Gosch’s was one of the first faces of missing or abducted children to appear on milk cartons across the country.<br><br>John and Noreen Gosch divorced in 1993. Since, then she has hired private investigators to hunt for her son, written a book called “Why Johnny Can’t Come Home” and testified in a 1999 federal court case that her son came to visit her in 1997.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>What the f&%&k with the whole "JG" thing??? <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

This on the comments page. And Jeff, I know you are working on a book with Trine Day but this really bugs me:<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Kris Millegan said...<br><br> There is another B&W picture of just Johnny, where he is wearing the sweat pants.<br><br> It is not mine to post, but if it is not available soon, I will post and link here.<br><br> According to sources, there are possibly around 60 pictures.<br><br> Like, I have said, we have this nailed. many times over, it has been refused by every major magazine and publisher. ABC television spent much time and milllions of dollars that was never aired. The Brtitish documentary on the Franklin Cover-up was not aired on the Discovery Channel. Peeple have tried to epose this but they have always been stopped.<br><br> I have been following this story for many years and have attempted several times to give the story to writers, all have come back to me and said they couldn't do it. They were afraid for their families, etc.<br><br> Now a courageous reporter has stepped forward, he has already spent four hard years researching and verifying but the mainstream and many people run the other way. They do not want to hear it.<br><br> What is happening is, even though these kids have been degraded, disused and horrificly damaged by these elite bastards, there is still some humanity. According to sources these kids stole these pictures from the perps and ... the "kids" are crying out for help.<br><br> The effects of "mind-contol techniques" do not only effect the "slave." The perps think they got it control.<br> Ya ever watch a Most Wanted or Cold Case type show, they show the guy with a girl under the bed, soon he takes her out in public, lets her visit her home. etc. They think that they have completly broken. but some humanity survives. Go to a mind-control survivor conference, forget the kooks and spooks and get down to the real deal. They are real people who have been through "hell."<br><br> Again, we need help bring this story out. It is only going to happen if we the people do it. I will donate all profits to a non-profit to help these kids, put the book on the web, whatever …<br><br> Please let us do it and stop this madness.<br><br> We must confront evil and help these kids.<br><br> Anyone?<br><br> Peace,<br> OM<br> Kris Millegan<br> www.trineday.com<br> 1.800.556.2012<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Dear Kris. I can get you free web hosting. I will scan every page and every picture for free. I will put up design and maintain the website for free. As would hundreds of volunteers. So I'm really not sure why you are soliciting donations. <br><br>This is my opinion...has nothing to do with Jeff, but I think it makes Trine Day look really bad. You should have had that shit in the public domain years ago...<br><br>I know you are a publishing company....but jeez...<br><br>Am I out of line here? <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

sw made a good point in the comments.<br>Either of the two on the left could be girls.<br>Especially the one on the far left. <p></p><i></i>

[Project Willow]

She also said this DE.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>We are just a small press. The story is bigger than us. Anyone with guts out there willing to help finance the expose that may bring these "bastards" down?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I wonder if she attended the conference a few weeks ago, pretty accurate description. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

I don't know if you are suggesting we donate...PW...and a few more lines of explanation might change my mind...but why do they need money to publish this? <br><br>A website is free or minimal cost. And though I don't quite understand what Trine Day is (publishers don't usually solicit donations to publish books) there are self-publishing companies out there...see Dave McGowan's "Programmed to Kill." The book is only printed when ordered, so the overhead is quite small.<br><br>But if we all give money, it will still be at least a year before the thing hits the press..I say turn over what you have to the police (who likely won't respond effectively) then start dumping it on the web. Or donate it to the Johnny Gosch site. Or collaborate with them.<br><br>I realize I'm just thinking from my own perspective here, but enough exploitation. Put it out under a creative commons license...let it get circulated widely...meanwhile, insist in the license that a link be included back to Trine Day so that a fuller edition, published in book form, can be advertised. So they still get credit and publicity.<br><br>Or at least explain why you need money. What's the budget? How much is needed? What would a timeline be? What can you tell us that lets us know that your angle is the correct one?<br><br>The way it stands it just sounds bad. I want the info out immediately and I also want Trine Day to have a good reputation as Jeff is publishing with them. <br><br>I don't want to threadjack here...just a plea to get this info out and my offer to put it out myself for free is quite serious. <p></p><i></i>