by havanagilla » Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:45 pm
I think that as Jews we have a different "nieche" in the MC business/belief system anyway. Since I also had "Nazi" experiences/imagery involved in my early childhood "coaching" especially re sexual abuse and conditioning, these must be the same people who do it in the USA, actual Nazis, I am afraid. (apropos jeff's new post). If I am trying to take a rational approach to this organized madness, i am assuming that the nazi belief system prevails in these matter,s so that Jews are outside the bloodline stuff (we are indistinguishable, maybe seen as ONE bloodline). There was NO witchraft in Jewish communities as we know of in the non Jewish world. It was verbotten ! and women in Judaism are very subservient and hidden, so they could not practice anything anyway (last known Jewish witches exist in the Bible). Jewish bloodlines follow Rabbinical families, tribe affiliation (but that's very tentative, because nobody really know which tribe they come from except Levy is generally the Levite tribe and Cohn the Priests line, but that too is unreliable in modern times when people changed names etc.).<br>there was no blood nobility in Jewish history except the House of david, only because of the traditional belief that messiah will be of this family. (but this family, btw comes from a very low and mixed blood with peasant non jews, its all in the bible). <br>So, I think the bloodline concept applies to Christians, and since Rothchild is almost the only Jewish gentry known in the world, they were "brought in" under the same concepts. <br>----<br>However, I think that through the very long exile in Europe, there developed a concept of Bloodlines of Jews who belonged to a certain Feudal or King. So, If in year 1000 a certain european king owned a certain Jewish family/community, this group, and its decendants were treated as a bloodline bearing the name of the Christian king that owned them. So you have bloodlines of slaves of a certain royal family which can be traced back for some centuries ago. I think there might be some "bloodline" issue re Jews from those groups, namely, that they are viewed as "game" or as "hybrids" of that Royal or feudal European line. that's just my take on it, I never heard it anywhere else.<br><br>--<br>My Maternal lineage bears a Christian name, after the Prince who owned them for a long time. And there are many many others like that. We dont know the original name, we are named after the prince, and I am sure there were Kunta Kinte (roots) scenes over there...I have a hunch that the "blood lible" issue perhaps is related to those very unhealthy slavery relations which developed over the history.<br><br>---<br>Some of this bizarre and sickening "vampirism" exists in Nazi-zionist stories, such as the infatuation by people like EIchman developed for Zionists and Jewish nationalism and culture (and the response from some sick Jews with adoration of those Nazis). So, I am not ruling out prior entanglements of my family with bizarre stuff, back when they were still in europe, and carried over to israel.<br><br>MC stories, mine included, have Nazi elements and some Jewish collaboration (Jewish doctors and Kaballa) in the same pot. So, I assume some Jewish (maybe prior to holocaust) entanglement existed in the Order of Nazi occultism. You can see traces of this in "the Nine" material. the jews are partners, but eventually they are food. But in the course of it, there are prominent Jewish figures (Uri geller etc.). <br><br>I have no doubt now that after WW2, Nazi elements were either brought here to israel or found refuge or disguised themselves as Jews or maybe they were Jews, but collaborators who pretended to be survivors, who would know, in the general confusion of that time. Certainly, since 1960 (Aichman capture) and probably before that with Kastner's work with US prosecution of Nuremberg, the CIA-NAZI-ISRAELI connection became a fact, And rafi eitan is one example of the people who were go between CIA/NAzis, under the guise of hunting them down, I think they were more into "brokering" bn nazis they traced and potential buyers like CIA or USSR, using the cold war and Israel's good relations with both sides. Rafi Eitan, after his one year work in Mossad as a "nazi catcher" (in latin america) founded and joined what is know as Lakam the scientific intel unit of israel's security services. Do you think they shied from using Nazi know how ? I am sure they were all too happy to grab anything they could put their hands on, back then. So, those illicit relationship with Nazi scientists had its deadly effect. (as in the NASA and other US nazi places). there is no winning with those type of nazis, its the game of trying to ride the tiger, but if the tiger is Nazi he wlil probably bite your ass off. I can see the fascination of israelis with science, to realize how they would easily fall for a bait to tap into nazi scientists' knowledge/ services. MC, included.<br><br>--<br>Since then we have solid NAzi presence in SIrael, in the high echelons of science/intel (the usual place they go to...those Nazi scientists). I wouldn't be surprised if there are Nazi cells in Israeli science/intel community. My father kept memorabilia and had a facsination with Nazis, when he came back from military training in the USA. So, I think the nazis were continuing the same thing (namely, enslaving Jews), only via other channles this time, and again they had ample cooperatoin from local traitors. (as was the case, BTW, in WW2). <br><br> <br> <p></p><i></i>