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Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi dead in U.S. forces raid, Trump says

Postby Jerky » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:34 am

3 of Bakr's children and 2 of his wives also killed in raid.

According to Trump, who received multiple draft deferments due to imaginary "bone spurs" during the Vietnam era, Al-Baghdadi "died like a coward, crying, whimpering and screaming" as he ran to hide inside a tunnel, with U.S. troops closing in on him. One is left to imagine the spectacle Trump would put on if he were ever to find himself in a similar situation (God willing).

Also, after criticizing Obama for what he claimed was Obama's apparent attempt to "take credit" for killing Osama bin Laden (something nobody but crazed Fascists claimed at the time), Trump's language in making his announcement sounded pretty darn braggadocious and self-inflating.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/u ... rces-raid/
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Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi dead in U.S. forces raid, Trump say

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:56 pm

Trump says he told Russia of ISIS raid, but not Pelosi and Schiff because ‘Washington is a leaking machine’
Published 1 hour ago on October 27, 2019 By David Edwards


During a press conference on Sunday, President Donald Trump congratulated himself after the U.S. military reportedly killed ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

Speaking from the White House, Trump insisted that he had been on the trail of the ISIS leader since his first day in office.

“I would say, where is Baghdadi?” Trump explained.

The president also said that countries like Russia had been notified in advance of the raid but Democratic leaders in the Gang of Eight were reportedly not told even though it is customary.



Trump suggested that House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) were not told because of potential leaks.

“We have notified some and others are being notified now as I speak,” Trump told the press. “We were going to notify them last night but we decided not to do that because Washington leaks like I’ve never seen before. There is nothing — there is no country in the world that leaks like we do.”

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He continued: “And Washington is a leaking machine and I told my people, we will not notify them until the — our great people are out. Not just in, but out.”

“The only people that knew were the few people I dealt with,” Trump said.

Watch the video below from CNN.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/trump- ... g-machine/
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Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi dead in U.S. forces raid, Trump say

Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:35 pm

The whole thing reeks of bullshit, just like the very existence of the original al-Baghdadi in charge of ISIS back when they were al-Qaeda in Iraq. Can we get an independent ID on the body? Nope, blown to smithereens. I've said it before and I'll say it again: ISIS Is BS: It's Just the Latest Greatest Gladio Operation.
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Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi dead in U.S. forces raid, Trump say

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:56 pm

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Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi dead in U.S. forces raid, Trump say

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:06 am

‘NO RELIABLE INFORMATION’
Russia: Trump’s Baghdadi Victory Lap Is Nothing But ‘Propaganda’
The Russian Defense Ministry also disputed claims that Russia provided access to U.S. air units entering airspace it controls.

Julia Davis
Published 10.27.19 1:47PM ET

REUTERS
At the White House Sunday morning, President Trump profusely thanked Russia for its alleged involvement in the killing of Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Trump said: "[The Russians] were very cooperative, they really were good... Russia treated us great. They opened up, we had to fly over certain Russia areas, Russia-held areas. Russia was great."

Russia didn’t seem to see it the same way.

The Russian Defense Ministry’s spokesman, Major General Igor Konashenkov, refuted President Trump’s statement, stating in part: “The Russian Defense Ministry has no reliable information about U.S. servicemen conducting an operation for ‘yet another’ elimination of the former Daesh leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in the Turkish-controlled part of the Idlib de-escalation zone.”

The Russian Defense Ministry also disputed President Trump’s claim that Russia provided access to U.S. air units entering the airspace over the Idlib de-escalation zone during that mission in Syria. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov declined to provide a comment about President Trump’s announcement, directing everyone to General Konashenkov’s statement.

Kremlin-controlled Russian state media shot down President Trump’s announcement, with headlines that read: “The Russian Defense Ministry does not believe in al-Baghdadi’s liquidation.” Major General Igor Konashenkov scoffed at the changing details of the operation, with Trump adding alleged participants and various countries that supposedly took part in the raid, “each with completely contradictory details,” which Konashenkov said “raises reasonable questions and doubts about [the operation’s] veracity, not to mention success.”

Konashenkov said that the entire territory of the Idlib de-escalation zone that is not under control of the Assad government is in the grip of the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda—the terrorist group Jebhat al-Nusra—which he argued “always uncompromisingly exterminated any ISIS representatives on the spot as the main rivals for power in Syria.” Therefore, Konashenkov does not believe President Trump’s claims that the former ISIS leader could be quietly hiding in the territory controlled by Syrian Al-Qaeda, demanding “at least some direct evidence from the United States or other participants in the operation."

Konashenkov skeptically pointed out that al-Baghdadi was already supposedly “eliminated” multiple times, with such claims being later disproven. In fact, Russia itself, as well as the Assad regime, have falsely claimed to have killed the ISIS leader multiple times.

The Russian Defense Ministry’s spokesman further emphasized that even if al-Baghdadi were to be eliminated, that wouldn’t change facts on the ground in Syria or make any difference with respect to the multiple escaped ISIS fighters.

In his Sunday show, the infamous state TV propagandist Dmitry Kiselyov took another jab at the United States, exclaiming that “except for Russia and Syria, no one has ever seriously fought against ISIS.” Kiselyov made fun of Trump’s claim that America is “protecting the oil fields in Syria,” stating that “Americans are in Syria illegally. Sooner or later, they will have to get out of there completely. Let them guard their oil—in another hemisphere.”

On Saturday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov made the similar point to U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in a call reportedly initiated by the American side. Lavrov decried President Trump’s stated goal of “protecting the local oilfields from ISIS” as a violation of international law and told Pompeo that all natural resources in Syria belong to Damascus. Lavrov and Pompeo also reportedly discussed other unspecified issues with respect to relations between Moscow and Washington.

Russia is not only skeptical of President Trump’s claims with respect to the killing of al-Baghdadi, but openly refers to his announcement as mere “propaganda,” designed to appease his electorate and help him get re-elected. Denis Davydov, Russian state TV correspondent in the United States, told Rossiya-24 that “Trump has elections coming up in a year and this announcement of al-Baghdadi’s liquidation will add some points for the Commander-in-Chief.”
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Syriously??

Postby chump » Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:34 am


https://off-guardian.org/2019/10/28/al- ... g-reality/

al-Baghdadi Raid is the Us Empire Creating Reality
The latest attack on Syria, whatever the truth of it, is an exercise in narrative control

Kit Knightly

Apparently the United States killed Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi yesterday. US Special Forces allegedly killed the ISIS leader during a raid on a stronghold in Idlib.

As far as we know, this man was already dead. Maybe twice. He reportedly faked his death once as well.

The debate about whether or not Baghdadi was killed by US Special Forces, killed himself with a suicide vest, is still alive or died years ago has raged all day.

Trump says he died like a coward. The Russians maintain they have no data suggesting any attack was carried out at all. But that is far from conclusive.

From a domestic point of view, the purpose of the attack is fairly obvious: Donald Trump has an election coming up, and potential Presidents like nothing more than being seen to be tough. That means taking out some “bad guys”.

Of course, none of that matters.

It doesn’t matter what happened, it doesn’t matter why it happened and it doesn’t matter whether who it (allegedly) happened to was real, or alive…or otherwise.

Because, as always, the problem is not the specifics. It’s the principle and the precedent.

Let’s just assume that – for the first time in its entire existence – the Pentagon is telling the exact truth about both its actions, and the motives for those actions.

Well, then this is still unacceptable.

The United States is publicly claiming the right to carry out military strikes on foreign soil for the purpose of conducting extra-judicial executions.

This is completely illegal.

Syria is a sovereign state. Whatever the motivation for the alleged raid, carrying it out without the cooperation or permission of the legitimate government of Syria was illegal.

al-Baghdadi was (is?) not a US citizen, or an enemy combatant, and has never been convicted of any crime, in any court, by anyone. Whether or not he is alive…he as a right to be alive under the UN Charter of Human Rights.

And we’re all forgetting that.

Just a few weeks ago Trump announced the US was “pulling out” of Syria. Well, we now know what we suspected at the time, that the announcement is meaningless. This “raid” is their way of saying “just kidding!”

ISIS will still be used as they have always been used: as an excuse for the United States to occupy, attack, destabilise and control the Middle East.

Lost in this hubbub about ISIS, and Hollywood theatricals about daring night-raids on enemy compounds, the United States marched soldiers into North-Eastern Syria to ”protect' oil fields.

At the end of the day THAT is really what this was about. Not hurting ISIS, or fighting terrorism, or even making Donald look cool to Rust Belt patriots…it was about an Empire acting as they would, and us letting them. It was about narrative control.

Don’t forget the famous quote from Karl Rove:

”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”


When we argue about the specifics we let those in power control the conversation.

The US broke international law, and claim it as an achievement. They ignore borders and treaties and conventions on a whim, and we are so used to it we’re debating their motives and their effectiveness.

They proclaim loudly that they’re above the law. And, in letting them set that conversation, we agree with them. Even in our outrage.
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Re: Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi dead in U.S. forces raid, Trump say

Postby Grizzly » Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:14 am

I can't wait until we get, Al Bin Sid McCaini, NEXT!
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Seriously?

Postby chump » Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:25 pm


https://nypost.com/2019/10/28/military- ... n-the-job/

Military dog wounded chasing al-Baghdadi is already back on the job
By Aaron Feis
October 28, 2019

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Sit! Slay!

This is the American dog of war who chased down and cornered evil ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in his final desperate moments before the terrorist blew himself to hell with a suicide vest in his dingy Syrian lair.

President Trump on Monday afternoon tweeted a photo of the four-legged hero, clad in what appears to be a camouflage harness and with its tongue lolling out of its mouth — belying its US Army-trained ferocity.

“We have declassified a picture of the wonderful dog (name not declassified) that did such a GREAT JOB in capturing and killing the Leader of ISIS, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi!” wrote the president.

The pooch — a Belgian Malinois named Conan, according to reports in Newsweek and the Washington Examiner — was unleashed after Baghdadi when the coward fled US troops down a dead-end tunnel late Saturday.

Before Conan could turn the murderous mastermind into a human chew toy, Baghdadi detonated his bomb vest, killing himself and three of his kids, causing a small cave-in — and wounding his furry pursuer.

But amazingly, Conan has already been cleared to return to service, Pentagon officials said Monday.
“The dog is still in theater,” said Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in a press briefing. “The dog … performed a tremendous service as they all do in a variety of situations.”

Conan was “slightly wounded and fully recovering, but the dog is still in theater, returned to duty with its handler,” he added.

At the time, Milley declined to name the canine — saying the Department of Defense was “protecting the dog’s identity” — or elaborate on its intended role.

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