iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 09:55 AM<br>Original message <br>OJ: London Underground bombing 'exercises' at same time as real attack <br> Well, f--- me:<br><br><br>London Underground bombing 'exercises' took place at same time as real attack<br>Culpability cover scenario echoes 9/11 war games<br><br>By Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones<br>Online Journal Guest Writers<br><br>July 11, 2005 (Prison Planet)—A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7.<br><br>On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm.<br><br>Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti-Terrorist Branch.<br><br>Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.<br>(more)<br><br><br><br><br>Former NY mayor says London attacks "eerie reminder" of Nine-Eleven <br><br>LONDON Former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani is describing today's London attacks an "eerie reminder" of Nine-eleven.<br>He was in London when the bombs went off -- and he describes hearing sirens following the morning explosions.<br><br><br><br>Same-time-as-attack underground bombing exercise in London a chilling coincidence?<br>By Judi McLeod & David Hawkins<br>Saturday, July 9, 2005 9:00 p.m.<br><br>Toronto-- Chillingly coincidental, the same 9/11 "war games" conducted during the actual tragedy on the morning of September 11, 2001, echo London underground "bombing exercises" which took place at the same time as the real attack, according to Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com.<br><br>What are the odds of both human tragedies having coincidental "drills" going on at the exact same time real life was taking so many human lives in two terrorist attacks?<br><br><br>And here I am, fresh out of foil.<br><br><br> <br> Alert | Hide Thread | Recommend Topic for Greatest Page (1 vote) Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> Replies to this thread <br> What the fuck? ComerPerro Jul-11-05 09:56 AM #1 <br> It's being censored at dKos. iconoclastic cat Jul-11-05 09:57 AM #2 <br> that's not the only place seemslikeadream Jul-11-05 09:58 AM #3 <br> Ummm....how exactly is it being "censored" at dKos.... tx_dem41 Jul-11-05 10:01 AM #5 <br> There have been several people whose memberships were revoked. iconoclastic cat Jul-11-05 10:02 AM #8 <br> Well, Alex Jones... gmoney Jul-11-05 10:05 AM #13 <br> Interesting theory! (circular politics) iconoclastic cat Jul-11-05 10:09 AM #20 <br> This story has be proven to be true dogday Jul-11-05 10:00 AM #4 <br> It's been deleted here at least 10 times now seemslikeadream Jul-11-05 10:01 AM #6 <br> Seriously? iconoclastic cat Jul-11-05 10:03 AM #10 <br> absolutely seemslikeadream Jul-11-05 10:05 AM #12 <br> I think Will Pitt's was the first post on it and it was locked helderheid Jul-11-05 10:17 AM #33 <br> Separate facts may be true, of course.... tx_dem41 Jul-11-05 10:02 AM #7 <br> I know this part to be true dogday Jul-11-05 10:08 AM #19 <br> With none of the perps currently in custody. iconoclastic cat Jul-11-05 10:10 AM #22 <br> It has been deleted from this board many times dogday Jul-11-05 10:07 AM #16 <br> an excellent point overlooked at DKos... QuettaKid Jul-11-05 10:14 AM #29 <br> Since when do governments outsource "crisis management"? Old and In the Way Jul-11-05 10:03 AM #9 <br> It's called "let the door open"... StrafingMoose Jul-11-05 10:05 AM #11 <br> Why was this thread deleted 10X? I saw it once and a real lonestarnot Jul-11-05 10:05 AM #14 <br> Well, THIS thread wasn't deleted...I just wrote it. This is the first I've iconoclastic cat Jul-11-05 10:07 AM #17 <br> I think we had an overzealous mod DoYouEverWonder Jul-11-05 10:13 AM #27 <br> I love your cat nolabels Jul-11-05 10:07 AM #15 <br> Actually, he's not mine. I just image-googled "cat beer" and he came up. iconoclastic cat Jul-11-05 10:08 AM #18 <br> Some once told me beer goes good with fishing too nolabels Jul-11-05 10:18 AM #34 <br> MODS, please before you lock or banish this... JackRiddler Jul-11-05 10:09 AM #21 <br> I never thought I'd write a lock-worthy thread! Cool! iconoclastic cat Jul-11-05 10:11 AM #23 <br> Mods, see, this is why I should be confined to the lounge... iconoclastic cat Jul-11-05 10:12 AM #24 <br> the single most negligent thing Congress has done . . . OneBlueSky Jul-11-05 10:12 AM #25 <br> This thread may not be deleted because the source is now backed up jsamuel Jul-11-05 10:13 AM #26 <br> Paul Thompson tried to post with that link early this morning seemslikeadream Jul-11-05 10:15 AM #30 <br> All of the thread with the CDC link were disappeared this morning DoYouEverWonder Jul-11-05 10:15 AM #31 <br> You got to wonder why it was deleted dogday Jul-11-05 10:17 AM #32 <br> got this link from a Dutch email talking about this helderheid Jul-11-05 10:13 AM #28 <br> KICK. nt. QuettaKid Jul-11-05 10:19 AM #35 <br> ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 09:56 AM<br>Response to Original message <br>1. What the fuck? <br> <br>"Do not be too quick to condemn the man who no longer believes in God: for it is perhaps your own coldness and avarice and mediocrity and materialism and selfishness that have chilled his faith." - Thomas Merton.<br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 09:57 AM<br>Response to Reply #1 <br>2. It's being censored at dKos. <br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/11/104237/157">www.dailykos.com/story/20...104237/157</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 09:58 AM<br>Response to Reply #2 <br>3. that's not the only place <br> <br> Karl Rove is a Traitor <br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Edit | Reply | Top <br> tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:01 AM<br>Response to Reply #2 <br>5. Ummm....how exactly is it being "censored" at dKos.... <br> ...when you hyperlink to the story on his site? <br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:02 AM<br>Response to Reply #5 <br>8. There have been several people whose memberships were revoked. <br> They were discussing this story, and their diaries were yanked.<br><br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> gmoney (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:05 AM<br>Response to Reply #2 <br>13. Well, Alex Jones... <br> Alex is the point so far to the right that it starts to resemble the extreme left. The political spectrum isn't a line... it's a circle.<br><br>If Alex is right about 10% of his theories, we're in deep deep shit. I'm sure his site was the inspiration for many an X-Files episode. I'm not saying he's wrong or crazy, just that I hope he is!<br><br>----------------------------------<br>A man may feel so completely thwarted that he seeks no form of satisfaction, but only distraction and oblivion. -- Bertrand Russell<br><br>Better to be a principled atheist than a Christian for show. -- Garrison Keillor<br>No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up. -- Lily Tomlin<br><br> Get the FW sticker<br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:09 AM<br>Response to Reply #13 <br>20. Interesting theory! (circular politics) <br> <br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> dogday (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:00 AM<br>Response to Original message <br>4. This story has be proven to be true <br> they can keep it off their pages if they must, doesn't hide the fact, it is true....<br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:01 AM<br>Response to Reply #4 <br>6. It's been deleted here at least 10 times now <br> <br> Karl Rove is a Traitor <br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Edit | Reply | Top <br> iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:03 AM<br>Response to Reply #6 <br>10. Seriously? <br> <br><br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:05 AM<br>Response to Reply #10 <br>12. absolutely <br> If this thread isn't deleted I will be very suprised. <br><br> Karl Rove is a Traitor <br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Edit | Reply | Top <br> helderheid (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:17 AM<br>Response to Reply #10 <br>33. I think Will Pitt's was the first post on it and it was locked <br> <br>VOTER VERIFIABLE PAPER BALLOTS Karl Rove is a Traitor<br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> tx_dem41 (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:02 AM<br>Response to Reply #4 <br>7. Separate facts may be true, of course.... <br> the "filling-in-between" part is definitely up in the air.<br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> dogday (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:08 AM<br>Response to Reply #7 <br>19. I know this part to be true <br> On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm.<br><br>Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti-Terrorist Branch.<br><br>Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.<br><br><br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:10 AM<br>Response to Reply #19 <br>22. With none of the perps currently in custody. <br> Odd.<br><br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> dogday (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:07 AM<br>Response to Reply #4 <br>16. It has been deleted from this board many times <br> but since then others sources have also been found to back this up. This story gives more than enough facts to check the source Peter Power who is on BBC radio...<br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> QuettaKid (89 posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:14 AM<br>Response to Reply #4 <br>29. an excellent point overlooked at DKos... <br> Someone made a point about how stupid it would be to be running an exercise at the same time.....actually, it's the perfect time:<br><br>The exercise fulfils several different goals. It acts as a cover for the small compartamentalized government terrorists to carry out their operation without the larger security services becoming aware of what they're doing, and, more importantly, if they get caught during the attack or after with any incriminating evidence they can just claim that they were just taking part in the exercise.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bom...">www.prisonplanet.com/arti...0705bom...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:03 AM<br>Response to Original message <br>9. Since when do governments outsource "crisis management"? <br> Seems like we are privitizing more and more governmental functions...and the accountanility.<br><br>Why does Karl Rove hate America? He is a TraitorVoted Democrat. Terrorists won. Social Security<br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> StrafingMoose (83 posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:05 AM<br>Response to Reply #9 <br>11. It's called "let the door open"... <br> Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 10:06 AM by StrafingMoose<br><br><br><br>And you got to take their words for it you know...<br><br>"Mr Blair said at the weekend that "all the surveillance in the world" would not stop terrorists determined to attack Britain" (<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,54...">www.heraldsun.news.com.au...ge/0,54...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> )<br><br><br>Sure, with a door open...<br><br><br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:05 AM<br>Response to Original message <br>14. Why was this thread deleted 10X? I saw it once and a real <br> barrage of criticism re the author of article... don't get it.<br><br>Karl Rove is a Traitor<br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:07 AM<br>Response to Reply #14 <br>17. Well, THIS thread wasn't deleted...I just wrote it. This is the first I've <br> heard of this story...<br><br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:13 AM<br>Response to Reply #14 <br>27. I think we had an overzealous mod <br> out early this morning.<br><br>I believe the problem has since been resolved and that we can now post this new info. <br><br>However, what actually was going on is still a mystery.<br><br><br><br> Today's attack - financed by your good friends at Bu$hCo.<br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> nolabels (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:07 AM<br>Response to Original message <br>15. I love your cat <br> <br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:08 AM<br>Response to Reply #15 <br>18. Actually, he's not mine. I just image-googled "cat beer" and he came up. <br> <br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> nolabels (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:18 AM<br>Response to Reply #18 <br>34. Some once told me beer goes good with fishing too <br> <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.pcvoyage.com/nutty/">www.pcvoyage.com/nutty/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:09 AM<br>Response to Original message <br>21. MODS, please before you lock or banish this... <br> Consider that the site, Prison Planet, whatever its other transgressions may be, is in this case only reporting what was actually said on BBC 5 radio in an interview with Peter Power, head of the Visor Consultants PR firm.<br><br>QUOTE:<br><br>POWER: At half past nine this morning (7/7/05) we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.<br><br>HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?<br><br>POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.<br><br>Visor Consultants:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.visorconsultants.com/index.html">www.visorconsultants.com/index.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>ASSUMING THIS IS GENUINE - meaning, assuming the interview is for real and Power is truthfully relating what he was doing on 7/7...<br><br>This is a smoking gun. An innocuous coincidence is off in the realm of the laughably incredible. He's saying "SIMULTANEOUS bombs going off PRECISELY at the railway stations where it happened this morning." Same time, same targets, same methods.<br><br>I'm not going to guess why someone who knew the attacks were coming wished to hire the PR firm in advance, and thus tip their hand. Maybe this was done by the masterminds, and they are supremely confident that major media won't follow up on such revelations. (The coverage given to the 9/11 fraud would certainly inspire confidence in the infallibility of government official stories once proclaimed.)<br><br>What's salient for now is that Power's drill cannot be a coincidence.<br><br>The hypotheses we allow determine our possible conclusions. <br><br>If we consider a possible hypothesis a priori "unthinkable," we will be blind to the evidence that supports it. It will appear unconnected and irrelevant.<br><br>Since the age of the CIA-backed Italian bombings of the 1970s, upon hearing of any spectacular multi-pronged terror attack in the West, the most reasonable initial assumption for thinking people is to hypothesize it was engineered by a tentacle of the octopoidal, privatized and invisible spook complexes that inhabit of governments; with the motive of keeping people in obedient hysteria to a strong-armed state. <br><br>Of course, terror acts could also be products of genuine asymmetric warfare by jihadists (of whatever religion or ideology). <br><br>But if you're not seriously considering at least both of these possibilities from the outset, you are imprisoning yourself in advance.<br><br><br>Founding Member, 9/11 Truth Alliance
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www.summeroftruth.org -- <br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:11 AM<br>Response to Reply #21 <br>23. I never thought I'd write a lock-worthy thread! Cool! <br> <br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:12 AM<br>Response to Original message <br>24. Mods, see, this is why I should be confined to the lounge... <br> <br><br><br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:12 AM<br>Response to Original message <br>25. the single most negligent thing Congress has done . . . <br> in the past four years is not thoroughly and openly investigate what happened on 9/11 . . . the "official" version remains the most unlikely explanation possible, and our "representatives" continue to recite it as if it were fact . . . while ignoring literally volumes of evidence that point to other conclusions . . . <br><br>it seems likely that something quite similar will happen in the UK vis-a-vis 7/7 . . . it's already begun with Blair's declaration that an independent investigation is not needed . . . sound familiar? . . .<br><br>makes you wonder just how stupid these "leaders" think we peasants actually are . . . <br><br>End Corporate Governance! . . . and work toward a more humane, more just, and more sustainable culture . . .<br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> jsamuel (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:13 AM<br>Response to Original message <br>26. This thread may not be deleted because the source is now backed up <br> Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 10:13 AM by jsamuel<br><br>with info from the CBC. Before, it was only seen on Prison Planet, which the Mods thought was counter-productive for this story.<br><br>So, if you include the link to the CBC page, that would help.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.cbc.ca/sunday/#night">www.cbc.ca/sunday/#night</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>"...Peter Power is Managing Director of a London-based consulting firm that specializes in crisis management, Visor Consultants - which on the morning of July 7 was co-incidentally running a security exercise for a private firm, simulating multiple bomb explosions in the London Underground, at the same stations that were subsequently attacked in real life."<br><br>Extending enlightenment for all (including myself). Karl Rove is a Traitor<br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> seemslikeadream (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:15 AM<br>Response to Reply #26 <br>30. Paul Thompson tried to post with that link early this morning <br> was deleted also<br><br> Karl Rove is a Traitor <br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Edit | Reply | Top <br> DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:15 AM<br>Response to Reply #26 <br>31. All of the thread with the CDC link were disappeared this morning <br> Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 10:16 AM by DoYouEverWonder<br><br>They weren't just locked. They were totally deleted. I did get a response from one of the other mods and I believe that the problem was resolved to the point that we can at least post and respond to this new info.<br><br><br><br><br><br> Today's attack - financed by your good friends at Bu$hCo.<br> <br> Alert Printer Friendly | Link | Reply | Top <br> dogday (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-11-05 10:17 AM<br>Response to Reply #26 <br>32. You got to wonder why it was deleted <br> I mean after all the original article had facts that could of been checked... <br><br>The source Alex Jones comes out of Austin, he has alot of insight and he backs up everything he says with reference. I have one of his tapes about 9-11 and he backs up everything with printed reference. It makes it hard not to believe it....<br><br><br>28. got this link from a Dutch email talking about this <br> Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 10:14 AM by helderheid<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2005/09070...">www.propagandamatrix.com/...5/09070...</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.daanspeak.com/LondonAttack01.html">www.daanspeak.com/LondonAttack01.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br><br> edit to include more posts<br><br> <br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=seemslikeadream@rigorousintuition>seemslikeadream</A> at: 7/11/05 10:21 am<br></i>