CBC story on London's coincident exercises

by **chiggerbit** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:20 pm

I had no more than joined DU when I saw the announcement for this site. I almost never go in DU now, as I prefer not to have my food pre-chewed for me. All those deletions annoyed me.

by **toscaveritas** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:38 pm

You're absolutely correct! They are increasingly worried , because too many people already woke up and THAT is a threat! In light of all this purging and attacking, I'm very glad to have a yahoo group that I started 1,5 yrs ago. I never censor or moderate, but am very careful WHO I invite as member. That seems to have worked and we are reaching around the globe with the truth! tosca

by **Sweejak** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:00 pm

Tosca, I'm with your take on Jones, very difficult for me to listen to, especially on radio. Jack Blood on the other hand is great fun to listen to. Alex has to be given his due. He's been at it a long time and is usually right. I've seen him do whole films using nothing but MSM clips. From the film "Waking Life", a must see film IMO. (it only seems to load halfway for me, too bad, it gets better at the end.) <a href="http://homepage.mac.com/kaaawa/iblog/C394583283/E154415347/index.html">homepage.mac.com/kaaawa/i...index.html</a> Here is an audio version if the vid doesn't work: <a href="http://radio.indymedia.org/uploads/alex_jones-stand_up.mp3">radio.indymedia.org/uploa...and_up.mp3</a> Yahoo sites get disappeared fairly frequently. MSN too. At the risk of going way off topic here is a Waking Life link: <a href="http://publish.uwo.ca/~dmann/waking_essay.htm">publish.uwo.ca/~dmann/waking_essay.htm</a>

by **toscaveritas** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:14 pm

Hi Sweejak Indeed, the MSM clips in "Road to Tyranny" is what really woke me up! I've seen that clip before, very powerful. I will try to get a copy of "Waking Life"-- ty for the link to the essay! tosca

by **Sweejak** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:57 pm

Re Jones/MSM A case in point, the headline is a little hyperbolic, but there it is. The Guardian is still MSM right? <a href="http://infowars.com/articles/London_attack/website_claiming_alqaeda_connection_to_bushes.htm">infowars.com/articles/Lon...bushes.htm</a> Re Waking Life, it is on Netflix Linklater's latest film is a James Dick's "Scanner Darkley".

by **toscaveritas** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:12 pm

how ironic that you post that! I started a thread on DU with that exact link AND even included the original Guardian link with it! the thread was locked!! moderator said that prisonplanet was not a credible source! LOL <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/nerd.gif ALT="8o">

by **Sweejak** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:17 pm

Ok that's it! While not being a regular at DU I think I have my mind made up. The link is from the Guardian! DU is dirt! Expose gate keepers or all we will be able to do is swing the pendulum around, likely with ourselves hanging from it!

by **Sweejak** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:45 pm

Seems the word is getting out anyway <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=London+Underground+Bombing+%27Exercises%27+&btnG=Google+Search">www.google.com/search?hl=...gle+Search</a>

by **greencrow0** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:33 pm

<a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/110705warningtotheworld.htm">www.prisonplanet.com/arti...eworld.htm</a> Quite good,

by **greencrow0** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:36 pm

A Warning To The World Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet | July 12 2005 The London bombings are a clear indication that the Globalists have not changed tactics and are getting ever more desperate to advance an agenda based on a simple time tested manipulation of fear. It is now time for all governments who still operate outside of the control of the Globalists to come forward and join humanity in unveiling the real terrorists who are attempting to deform the world into a prison planet. The message is clear, if you do not surrender all national sovereignty and control to the new world order, you will be targeted for elimination. They are coming for you. Sitting back and hoping it never comes to fruition is merely delaying the inevitable. The only hope your country and its future generations have will be protected by you standing up in unified opposition to the Globalists and helping to expose their state terror paradigm. It is better to die on your feet than live on your knees. This is a beacon call to all government officials in every sector of the command structure. You will be the first ones to be fed into the meat grinder when the bell tolls. They have no compassion, no loyalty towards you. You are safer out here in the light with the rest of us than skulking around in the dark continually seeking justification for your ignorance and obliviousness. Throughout history governments have used terrorism against their own people and created paper tiger enemies as a means of obtaining and retaining the trust of the masses in the process of gradually enslaving them. The Anglo-American establishment that controls the military-industrial complex of the West has been caught over a hundred times carrying out bombings and other terrorist attacks around the world to further their corporate aims and to blame their enemies. The US government has been caught planning to carry out attacks and carrying out attacks. The British government has been caught red-handed as well. Members of Vladimir Putin's FSB were caught planting bombs in a Russian apartment building in 1999 by the Moscow police. This is not speculation. Kermit Roosevelt admited on NPR radio that in 1953 the CIA and British intelligence carried out a wave of bombings and shootings in Iran. He then went on to brag about how they subsequently blamed the bombings on Iran's President, Mossadegh. Do you understand, these people brag about what they do 40 years later. In any crime you look at history and motive, The British government has been caught in multiple examples of carrying out bombings in London which were then blamed on the IRA. They even had one of their own MI5 agents wihin the Omagh bomb squad. Click here for an archive of this evidence. In what was called 'the strategy of tension,' Operation Gladio, a CIA/MI6 controlled state terror program swept Europe over three decades. In sworn testimomy, a Gladio agent, Vincenzo Vinciguerra, made the following comment. "You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security." And we ask the question, isn't it convenient for the kingpins of the war on terror that none of the terror attacks ever harm the establishment they are supposedly aimed at? Pentagon document Field Manual FM 30-31B openly discusses launching terrorist attacks in nations that "do not react with sufficient effectiveness" to the geopolitical demands of the Globalists. How many of the family members of the London subway bombing victims are aware of the fact that in a 2000 investigation the Italian Senate concluded that the 1980 Bologna train bombing that killed 85 people was carried out by "men inside Italian state institutions and ... men linked to the structures of United States intelligence."? Gladio was continued by way of Central American death squads and that policy is being ressurected today in Iraq. The right wing extremist groups are still controlled by the state to this day. A 2003 court case embarassed the German government when it was discovered that one in seven Neo Nazis was a secret service agent, and in many cases had been for decades. The Neo-Nazis are controlled by the government and used as a means to restrict any form of alternative political speech. There is no limit to which the Globalists will go in trying to tick off their objectives within their set time frame. We are calling on all whistleblowers to reveal themselves now and stand with us in the corner of truth and the future of this species. These bastards are indiscriminate killers and witholding information only paints a bigger target on your forehead. Your words need to be heard. We are at a threshold of awareness and enlightenment. Shortly after 9/11, to say the government was involved was made tantamount to insulting the dead victims. Now four years later in the wake of the London bombings a sizeable portion of the thinking world is saying the same thing, the only people to gain from this and the ones who have been caught doing it before are the government. The evidence already points to them too. For those who still try to justify this and be reasonable about it by convincing themselves that "they would never do that," don't make the mistake of filtering the actions of your government through your own moral code. Smarmy neo-liberals and neo-cons have been revelling in the aftermath of the bombings, claiming that the public need to understand the tyranny of dispersed terrorist groups and their true power. They criticize those that dare question the leaders that we supposedly chose to elect in the paranoid fallout of the attacks. Look at the truth of history. How many times have loose-knit organizations constructed tyranny in comparison to state governments? This is a warning to the world. There is no more time for procrastination, choose your side. On an individual level anyone who isn't doing their part to expose these killers is just as responsible for the killing. On a governmental level the challenge is here before you. Either scream from the rooftops about government orchestrated terrorism or sit back and watch your country become a victim of it as it is wrestled away from your hands and placed in the domain of a black and cancerous global dictatorship." Alex Jones, the one who broke the London Bombing riddle has a final word. Regards, GC<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/alien.gif ALT="0]">

by **trunews** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:55 pm

I did not see that anyone had linked to this article at the Canada Free Press, so I've posted it. <a href="http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover070905a.htm">www.canadafreepress.com/2...70905a.htm</a> Cover Story Same-time-as-attack underground bombing exercise in London a chilling coincidence? By Judi McLeod & David Hawkins Saturday, July 9, 2005 9:00 p.m. Toronto-- Chillingly coincidental, the same 9/11 "war games" conducted during the actual tragedy on the morning of September 11, 2001, echo London underground "bombing exercises" which took place at the same time as the real attack, according to Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com. What are the odds of both human tragedies having coincidental "drills" going on at the exact same time real life was taking so many human lives in two terrorist attacks? NORAD was conducting drills of flying hijacked planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning, September 11, 2001. A CIA planned exercise on September 11 was built around a plane crashing into a building. "It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11/2001," Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones wrote for Prison Planet.com today. Basing their information on a BBC Radio 5 interview, Watson and Jones say a consulting agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th. "The host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a `crisis management advice company’, better known to you and I as a PR firm. "Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life. "Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch." Power told BBC that the drill focused around "simultaneous bombings". Originally the London bombings were thought to have been spread over an hour, but BBC reports today say that the bombings were in fact simultaneous. Watson and Jones say, "The fact that the exercise mirrored the exact locations and times of the bombings is light years ahead beyond a coincidence". (In the drills on Sept. 11, 2001) "NORAD radar screens showed as many as 22 hijacked airliners at the same time. NORAD had been briefed that this was part of the exercise drill and therefore normal reactive procedure was forestalled and delayed." And the NORAD and Visor Consultants drills are not the only factors linking the 9/11 and London terrorist attacks. The British experience is the same play on the market as what happed on 9/11. Advance knowledge of these events could be making someone rich. U.S. treasuries go up. The Pound goes down. The Euro goes up as do gold and the Swiss Franc. Who is the biggest trader in U.S. treasuries? Cantor Fitzgerald, owner of eSpeed, whose New York offices were on the 101st-105th floors of One World Trade Center. ESpeed stock was shorted 42 percent of its value from August 7 to September 7, 2001 and no one seems to know why. Coming Monday: 9/11 and the Mob by Judi McLeod & David Hawkins. Canada Free Press founding editor Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist with 30 years experience in the media. A former Toronto Sun and Kingston Whig Standard columnist, she has also appeared on Newsmax.com, the Drudge Report, Foxnews.com, and World Net Daily. Judi can be reached at: letters@canadafreepress.com. David Hawkins, Foundation Scholar-Cambridge University, and founder of the Citizen's Association of Forensic Economists at Hawks' CAFE

by **Sweejak** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:04 am

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by **Sweejak** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:05 am

Alex has a long history in Austin, in the days before I shot my TV I used to listen to him and like many I have a problem with his 'style'. In my estimation there is a American style entertainment aspect about some of his work. This is really a minor complaint, it's part of the milieu. Back then, long before 9-11 the mind blowing stories always left me searching for other, easier explanations, but over the years he has been shown to be mostly right, for me it is undeniable. Rumors are that some big media types are interested, perhaps as a consultant to Oliver Stone's new film. His films sell out repeatedly in Austin. He does have a sort of quasi cult following but it isn't really a cult. For instance at one of the sold out shows the audience said things like "god bless you Alex" and "your a real patriot". Well, so what. I know that he has woken up a lot of people and I take these expressions as admiration for that. I prefer his film to his radio, for radio I'm stuck on Jack Blood's show. 2-4 Central free feed here <a href="http://66.160.133.226:8020/listen.pls">66.160.133.226:8020/listen.pls</a> BTW, Austin is probably conspiracy central with Alex, Jack, RBN Network, Scott Horton, numerous micro broadcasters and the like. A growing amalgam of disheartened Democrats, Republicans, New Agers, Libertarians, Christian "patriots" and others. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sweejak@rigorousintuition>Sweejak</A> at: 7/11/05 10:08 pm

by **toscaveritas** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:14 am

here are the threads-- see for yourself <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1916621&mesg_id=1916621">www.democraticunderground...id=1916621</a> <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1916637">www.democraticunderground...32x1916637</a>

by **Sweejak** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:36 am

Well, they strike me as professional gate creepers. And why do I get the feeling that they are like in a boiler room? By professional I don't necessarily mean that they are paid but they know all the tactics. It looks pretty transparent to me, they revert to mockery in an awful early though. see <a href="http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/s/schopenhauer/arthur/controversy/index.html">etext.library.adelaide.ed...index.html</a>

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