A Message To The Sheeple: Regarding The Bombings In London

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Oh my!

Postby antiaristo » Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:52 am

Pam, <br>Great link!<br>I don't know if you remember a few days ago you were discussing the Canary Wharf incidents. It put me in mind of the guardian Talk by Norton-Taylor. He had dismissed that as a rumour, but in the next sentence he wrote about Vince Canistrano and the two spare bombs. I said this was important because the story had changed to "home brew bombs". I said I was going back to find the URL.<br>When I went back it had gone! The Guardian had doctored the record, and I couldn't show a thing.<br>Well your link has the original story<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1523819,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/uk_new...19,00.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>"Furthermore Vincent Cannistraro, the former head of the CIA's counter-terrorism centre, told The Guardian that "two unexploded bombs" were recovered as well as "mechanical timing devices"."<br><br>I'll state the obvious. It is one thing to change your story. It is quite another to pretend there had ever been a different story.<br><br>This proves the pressure being put on the "serious media".<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Back to Tavistock Square

Postby Peachtree Pam » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:11 am

Antiaristo,<br><br>You are right.<br><br>Did you read Nico's brilliant analysis about the bus "diverted" (on purpose?) to Tavistock Square:<br><br>Diversion of Bus #30 <br><br>Here is the official explanation of the bus driver why Bus 30 changed his route: <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.wtol.com/global/story.asp?s=3571921&ClientType=Printable">www.wtol.com/global/story...=Printable</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br><br>"My bus had been diverted because there were thousands of people coming out of the tube. There were many people who were trying to get on the bus at once," said 49-year-old George Psaradakis, who suffered minor cuts and bruises. "Suddenly there was a bang, then carnage. Everything seemed to happen behind me." <br><br>However, Veronica our "former bus driver" at team8plus said: <br><br>"...A Driver is only allowed to divert from line of route under specific <br>instructions for either (a) A Controller (usually at the Garage), or (b) the overall control for London, called CentreCom... <br>... CentreCom are very much in touch with the police, and would undoubtedly have been 'in the thick of it' ..." <br><br>...and she found out more: <br><br>"...I've just learned that the bus was diverted by the <br>police down a side-street into Tavistock Square, where it was stopped. It then blew up. <br><br>That is significant for the following reasons. <br><br>1) That the police could identify that particular bus, <br>and <br><br>2) That they could find the location of the bus so <br>quickly. <br><br>Buses are tracked on an automatic 'transponder'' <br>system called AVL (Automatic Vehicle Locator). This system works so well that, in order to confirm where a bus is (at any time), the Controllers generally call up the Driver (via radio) - and simply ask. In other words, it doesn't work very well at all. <br><br>(I occasionally got a call, asking where I was, when standing in the garage itself. I stuck my head out of the window and waved at the Controller's room). <br><br>The automatic AVL system is not reliable enough to pinpoint a bus - with certainty - in a short space of time. <br><br>QED: The police MUST have been tailing that bus. That is the only realistic way they could have singled it out and diverted it. <br><br>The guy (the bus driver - added by Peachtree Pam for clarity) was a part of the drill. And the police knew ALL about it. They were tailing him and the others. <br><br>When "real" bombs went off, they went into 'overdrive' <br>and diverted the bus as a precaution...." <br><br>Though Veronica's analyis ended in a speculation, the question remains, how did the police know so quickly about the bus (which has to be confirmed with another source, as possible) and who "tipped" them off? <br><br>In any case, though unsourced, Veronica's information about AVL (Automatic Vehicle Locator) is very helpful. <br><br>Btw, the AVL system is a form of technology, which communicates with satellite receivers that rotate around the earth constantly. It is provided by Clear Channel, which is a partner of Cable and Wireless, and also succesfully working in jamaica since July 2005! <br>(Source: [www.jis.gov.jm] )<br><br>--------------<br><br>The bus driver was changed from the regular driver on 7/7<br><br><br><br>What do you think, AntiAristo and dbeach???<br><br>All of the links on Nico's site are worth reading... <br> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Tavistock Square

Postby antiaristo » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:54 am

Yes they are, Pam. He's turned it into an excellent clearing house.<br>I was originally skeptical about the link to the Tavistock Institute. I asked how they would have known the bus would be diverted.<br>With that in mind, how do you know the driver was changed? I've seen nothing on that. But it COULD overcome my skepticism. <p></p><i></i>
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Bus driver

Postby Peachtree Pam » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:12 am

Antiaristo,<br><br>I have looked for an hour and cannot find the reference about the change, I don't remember where I saw it, but I remember it was only about two sentences...it could have been removed.<br><br>But I will keep looking...<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Bombings on 7/7

Postby Peachtree Pam » Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:51 pm

Here is Fintan Dunne's updated take on the black ops of 7/7. It would be easy enough to plant the bombs on the trains with the head of London transport "ex" CIA.<br><br>I have always thought that two of the "bombers" were taken out at Canary Wharf, both having realised their "patsy" role...<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/how-black-ops-staged-london-bombings.html">wagnews.blogspot.com/2005...bings.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>We must not lose sight of 7/7.....<br><br>7/21 was an effort to make us forget <p></p><i></i>
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Bombings on 7/7

Postby Peachtree Pam » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:01 pm

I posted this on another thread, but some may have missed it....<br><br><br><br><br>From Break for News:<br><br>wagnews.blogspot.com/2005...luton.html <br> <p></p><i></i>
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re:7/7 & 21/7

Postby rain » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:12 pm

no, not forget. it's a herding strategy. kinda like a whack from an electric cattle prod.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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re: Bombings on 7/7

Postby Starman » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:19 pm

Peachtree Pam said:<br><br>Here is Fintan Dunne's updated take on the black ops of 7/7. It would be easy enough to plant the bombs on the trains with the head of London transport "ex" CIA.<br><br>I have always thought that two of the "bombers" were taken out at Canary Wharf, both having realised their "patsy" role...<br><br>wagnews.blogspot.com/2005...bings.html<br><br>--end quote--<br><br>Holy Hell, the 'Black Ops Staged London Bombings' article sure is an eye-opener, seemingly fitting the 'facts' as represented a helluva lot better than the fable constructed for unquestioning public consumption. I think in the back of my mind I suspected the kidnapping/planted 'bombs' and staged-patsies scenario -- esp. when I found an Israeli company responsible for securioty in the London Underground -- I guess I'm surprised more attention to this hasn't been placed by skeptics of the 'official' version of reality.<br><br>re:<br>Also note the public investigations into the London bombing which shows that [security for London's underground system was provided by] a security company, Fortress GB, a smart card technology developer and integrator for ICTS Europe, which is an Israeli security company based in the Netherlands, a subsidiary of which is Huntleigh. Huntleigh was the security contractor at Logan Airport on 9/11 that failed to provide us with CCTV evidence of hijackers. The London Underground is one of Fortress GB’s clients and according to their press release they provide smart card technology (personal details and biometric information) for contractors that operate in Tube stations. It makes me wonder if Peter Power’s Visor Consultants were identified by these smart cards and if the four young men from Leeds were ever issued smart cards.&quot; Read details at: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.fortressgb.com/press/prdetail.asp?dfs=18">www.fortressgb.com/press/...asp?dfs=18</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <br>--end quote -- (from: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.montrealmuslims.ca/index.php?module=pagesetter&func=printpub&tid=7&pid=1512)">www.montrealmuslims.ca/in...&pid=1512)</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>**<br>This is perhaps auspicious and important considering Finton Dunne's suspicions about 7/7 being a state-sponsored/facilitated False Flag Black Ops -- Controlling the Underground security could hardly have aided the real perps any better -- if we'll EVER find out who REALLY planned and executed the bombings for a specific high-stakes purpose.<br><br>Israeli/Zionist fanatics have shown their hand in numerous acts of murder, political assassinations, duplicity, intrigue, blackmail, economic fraud, espionage, spying on supposed 'allies', selling military technology secrets and weapons systems (typically 'gifted' US largesse at nominal surplus and specious 'obsolete' costs which themselves are often written-off or subsumed within the several-hundred-billion-dollars the US has to-date given Israel) to unstable regimes and other potential/purposed 'enemies' of US Interests (but ratcheting-up an increasingly competitive technological/arms race -- the same thing happened during the cold war with deliberate or semi-inadvertant [wink-wink] technology/arms transfers to Communist states that then required 'new' multi-billion R&D to regain 'lost' technological/military superiority), collusion between large companies with organized crime (ie., lucrative drugs and arms smuggling, money-laundering, financial fraud schemes), having created Hamas and thereby launching terrorism on its own citizens, and so-forth. It's probably not just coincidental that the US is now openly embracing the institutionalization of fear and terror which has become an Israeli sociological fixture.<br><br>The 'wests' War on Islamofacist terrorism substantially benefits Israeli fanatics as well as the military/security/intelligence Industry, and of course the whole stinking infrastructure of rightwing neocons that presently infect and infest the US gummint.<br>(Of course, I'm hardly saying anything remarkable to most of the folks here at RI).<br><br>Of course too, all fingers don't point to Israel, but the role Israeli-Zionist interests play in providing the backdrop to what seems like staged terrorism is inescapably insidious.<br><br>I'm DAMN suspicious of the subplot behind most parapolitical current events.<br><br>Apparently xmphora has rightly (IMO) identified the 'Israelification of Britain'.<br>Starman<br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>"Al Qaeda is nothing more than an extension of the operatus linked to U.S. intelligence that was allowed, by script, to remove itself as a rogue break away entity of the U.S. government; allowed to de-compartmentalize from oversight, and was run instead by Gary Best rogue black ops specialists for scripted activity outside of the U.S. government, with its funding being orchestrated through the Pakistani secret police, an entity of the U.S. government itself."<br>--Tom Heneghan, American Patriot, Federal Whistleblower<br><br>I have NO doubt Al Qaeda is and always has been essentially a US-made-and-directed patsy-group.<br>-S<br> <p></p><i></i>
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bombing simulation coverup

Postby glooperoo » Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:30 pm

I just came across this interesting twist. UK's Channel 4 did a "bombing simulation coverup" 'debunk' story, except their "expert" debunker <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/messageboards/index.php?showtopic=58343&view=findpost&p=519291">isn't exactly sympathetic to the official story either</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->. I'm not sure how to interpret this. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :b --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":b"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: bombing simulation coverup

Postby DrDebugDU » Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:41 pm

LMAO @ glooperoo<br><br>I guess they need a better coverup even if the debunkers can't make heads or tails of it<br><br>Some Team8 Stuff ( <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?9.366.90">team8plus.org/forum_viewtopic.php?9.366.90</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> ) They are doing an excellent job. Chapeau Team 8 <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>The problem is of course those damn websites:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>Police ask for tough new powers<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>PM told of need for three-month detention of suspects and crackdown on websites</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Alan Travis and Richard Norton-Taylor<br>Friday July 22, 2005<br>The Guardian<br><br>Police last night told Tony Blair that they need sweeping new powers to counter the terrorist threat, including the right to detain a suspect for up to three months without charge instead of the current 14 days.<br><br>Senior officers also want powers to attack and close down websites, and a new criminal offence of using the internet to prepare acts of terrorism, to "suppress inappropriate internet usage".<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1533917,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/ story/0,16132,1533917,00.html</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Scotland Yard Knew Of Second Bombing Attempt<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Scotland Yard Knew Of Second Bombing Attempt</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>London Mirror | July 22 2005<br><br>SCOTLAND Yard knew the Tube would be bombed yesterday after being tipped off there would be an attack this week, it emerged last night.<br><br>They flooded the network with undercover armed police - while other armed officers used sniffer dogs to check passengers' rucksacks.<br><br>At 9.29am an armed unit raced to Farringdon station as they closed in on one suspected bomber - but narrowly missed him.<br><br>One security source revealed: "Certain information was received that pointed to another round of explosions this week, but the informant couldn't name exactly where and when."<br><br>However, police chiefs deduced the attack would probably be on a Thursday, as it was two weeks ago.<br><br>The source added: "After that we just knew it was going to happen and if it was going to happen it would be on Thursday."<br><br>Experts believe the fact the devices did not go off properly will give detectives a "goldmine of evidence".<br><br>Barely two hours before yesterday's attacks, Home Secretary Charles Clarke warned senior cabinet colleagues the capital could face another terror onslaught.<br><br>Mr Clarke gave the confidential briefing immediately after Tony Blair had chaired a full cabinet meeting in Downing Street.<br><br>A senior No10 source said: "Charles Clarke made it very clear there would be further attacks and that further incidents were a strong likelihood."<br><br>...<br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/220705yardknew.htm">www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/220705yardknew.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Deja Vu: Dead Suspect is Still Alive<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>911 Rerun - Dead British Bombing Suspect Very Much Alive</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.rense.com/general67/cdom.htm">www.rense.com/general67/cdom.htm</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Dawn.com<br>7-23-5<br><br>An interview of a British teenager broadcast on a Pakistani television network has thrown into doubt investigators, claims that all the three London bombers of Pakistani descent visited Pakistan last year. According to the investigators, the three bombers had died in the July 7 attacks.<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>But just to cheer everybody up:<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/m5.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--> <p></p><i></i>
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bbc

Postby vondardenelle » Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:06 pm

a friend of mine in london works for the bbc in thei headquarters building in west london (is that Television Centre, the one that had the bomb a few years ago). anyway, he said that they've put stickers on everyone's phone with a number to call in case of emergency. the number is 666. thought people might get a laugh from that.<br><br>cheers,<br>vd <p></p><i></i>
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Re: GHWB knighthood

Postby slimmouse » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:23 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>18 Aug 1988 During his acceptance speech at the Republican national convention, George HW Bush issues a prophecy: "The Congress will push me to raise taxes and I'll say no. And they'll push, and I'll say no, and they'll push again. And I'll say to them: 'Read my lips -- no new taxes.'" In the end, things don't quite work out that way.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br> Some truly amazing quotes here Pam.<br><br> Might I ask the source ? In particular the above lol <br><br> Since if its a genuine quote, then talk about speaking volumes ! <p></p><i></i>
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Source for quotes

Postby Peachtree Pam » Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:01 am

Hi Slimmouse,<br><br><br>Quotes are at bottom of page<br><br>Here is the link:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/presidents/george-hw-bush/">www.rotten.com/library/bi...e-hw-bush/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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