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There are a number of similarities between 9/11 and 7/7. I would like to begin creating a documented list of these similiarities. I would appreciate your help with this. Please contribute any similaririties you can document, with links and support material. If you are concerned the links won't be permanent, please include the data in your post. It doesn't matter to me, at this point, if the similarities seem to have any significance, or point to a conspiracy, or not. I just want to see them all - as many as we can discover.<br><br>Some obvious similarities:<br><br>1. Rudy Guiliano was at both locations.<br>2. Security cameras did not function that could have, should have provided positive identification. - If you can help provide links for this from 9/11, I would appreciate it.<br>3. I heard this morning that "documentation" from the 7/7 "suspects" has been found at the blast sites - no written report as of yet for me to provide, heard it on CCN. But it reminds me of Atta's passport being found at Ground Zero.<br>4. Security exercises being carried out that resembled attacks, on both dates - already covered on this discussion board.<br><br>Anything else??<br>Any links, even for above info, is appreciated. <p></p><i></i>

For now:<br>1. all bombers reported dead<br>2. immediate comdemnation of muslims<br><br>Would you consider also forming a second list, one that collects the deinite differences between the two events? The contrast might be telling, or might not. <p></p><i></i>

Here is a link to failed security cameras on 9/11 in the Portland airport where Atta and Alomari are said to have boarded a plane to Boston.<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/new_questions_about.html">www.americanfreepress.net...about.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>But, I remember hearing stories that none of the accused were picked up by surveillance cameras boarding the planes that were used in the attacks. None of the boarding area cameras were working. Does anyone else remember this? And, one story that I can't find the link to shows the only footage caught of the suspects in the airports where the flights used in the attacks originated is not date-stamped, highly unusual for a security camera tape.<br><br>I just find it strange that in London, where most people are picked up by security cameras over 300 times a day, there isn't more footage of the suspects. Only now, a single image of all 4 suspects together in one of the train stations, has surfaced.<br><br>Bindare - I'm hearing only one suspect is dead, the other 3 are either in custody or being searched for - and all 4 left identifying papers at the scenes of the explosions. <p></p><i></i>

Sorry Bindare, you are right according to this report:<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1428828,001301780003.htm">www.hindustantimes.com/ne...780003.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>All 4 suspects are believed to have died in the explosions - yet their identifying papers survived.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

911 had the main attack on the towers followed later by the attack on the pentagon. Without re-hashing the details, it has always struck me that the pentagon attack is quite different than the WTC attack.<br><br>London had the tube attack followed later by the bus bombing. this bombing doesn't jive. <p></p><i></i>

Another similarity: the French leak a little piece of information which indicates that all is not what it seems. <br><br>French interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy just said that some of the bombers have already been arrested, in 2004, but let go. British interior minister vehemently denies it. Hmmm. <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=355717&in_page_id=1770">www.dailymail.co.uk/pages...ge_id=1770</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Yet another: the alleged suicide bombers do not fit the profile of Islamic extremists. Their relatives and friends are completely shocked. <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Mr Ahmed said it was hard for the family to accept their son had caused such loss of life, adding: "It wasn't him. It must have been forces behind him." <br><br>He said his nephew was intelligent, adding: "He was a very kind and calm person. He was respected by everyone." <br><br>Pakistan trip<br><br><br>Mr Ahmed said his nephew went to Pakistan for two months earlier this year to study religion. <br><br>He denied earlier reports that his nephew travelled to Afghanistan and took part in training camps. <br><br>"There is no way, I have seen his passport." <br><br>Mr Ahmed described his nephew as "calm and collected". <br><br>He added: "He was intelligent. He went to university, Leeds Met, to study sport science. His plan was to go into sports." <br><br>He added: "He had everything to live for. His parents were loving and supportive. They had no financial worries." <br><br>He said he now accepted the family may have to move away from the area. <br><br>'Proud to be British' <br><br>Mr Ahmed said his nephew, who had studied in Lahore in Pakistan, was "proud to be British". He said if he had known he was involved in any fanatical groups or organisations he would have put a stop to it.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=355677&in_page_id=1770&ct=5">www.dailymail.co.uk/pages...=1770&ct=5</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

3. I heard this morning that "documentation" from the 7/7 "suspects" has been found at the blast sites - no written report as of yet for me to provide, heard it on CCN. But it reminds me of Atta's passport being found at Ground Zero.<br><br>This was on Yahoo yesterday<br><br>"Investigators also found personal documents bearing the names of two of the other men near seats on the Aldgate and Edgware lines. Police did not identify the men."<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050713/ap_on_re_eu/britain_bombings">news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=...n_bombings</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

London Patsies: A Replay Of The Pristine 9/11 Passport<br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://propagandamatrix.com/articles/july2005/130705pristinepassport.htm">propagandamatrix.com/arti...ssport.htm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br> <p></p><i></i>

I don't know if this counts, but I'd say the MSM's near total avoidance of any mention of these issues is one helluva similarity. <br><br>Here's another one: In both cases we saw a quick push for a <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/10/173923.shtml">increase in the State's powers</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/130705idcard.htm">to monitor its citizens</a><!--EZCODE LINK END-->. Although most people that buy the official story won't find too much suspicion with this aspect, I think the timing is worth noting. The fact that the Patriot Act, which was so massive almost no one read it, was ready to go <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/updates/update16.html">right after 9/11</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> suggests, at the very least, some serious pre-9/11 interest in dramatically increasing law enforcement powers (<!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.eff.org/Censorship/Terrorism_militias/20010919_ata_bill_draft.html">the first draft</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> was ready barely a week after 9/11). <br> <p></p><i></i>

Thanks for all the examples.<br><br>I think there will be more as time passes. <br><br>I keep hearing things on the news and think - that's one more... then can't find references.<br><br>I'll try to remember them! <p></p><i></i>

On 9/11, the planes had unusually low numbers of passengers, which has never been explained.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/">911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I read an eyewitness account that said the train's had unusually low number of passengers because many stations had been closed - for no known reason.<br><br>I'll try to find the link to that. <br>Has anyone seen this beside me? <p></p><i></i>

There has been a lot written about the unusual stock exchanges that resulted in huge profits for some, immediately before the attacks of 9/11/<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.ict.org.il/spotlight/det.cfm?id=675">www.ict.org.il/spotlight/det.cfm?id=675</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I also read in the comments on RI that the British pound was traded and dumped in higher than normal rates, immediately before the attacks of 7/7 - but I can't find a link the direct source.<br><br>Investigative Report: “Odd” Financial Activity Preceded UK Bombing <br>By Douglas J. Hagmann, Director<br><br>8 July 2005; 5:30 AM ET: Just a few short hours before the first explosion ripped through London, there was a significant sell-off or “selling short” of the British Pound in the financial market. This activity took place absent of any economic news or other known market-driven factors that would sufficiently explain the sell off. This activity also occurred without the normal corresponding pricing action in the other major currency pairs. In summary, a large amount of GBP was sold to liquidate a “long position” and secure profits, or to take a “short position” to profit from an anticipated drop in the value of the British Pound. In either case, the market activity warrants further investigation.<br><br>Many thanks to an alert subscriber to the HQ INTEL-ALERT for his expert analysis which served as the basis for this report." <p></p><i></i>

9. Indication of Israel knowing about events before they happened. <br>the "dancing Israeli's of 9-11 and the warning to Netanyahu. <p></p><i></i>

Via WRH<br><br><br>FLASHBACK: ICTS International N.V. Reports Entering Into the Railroad Security Business ICTS International N.V. Reports Entering Into the Railroad Security Business<br>Posted Jul 14, 2005 07:44 AM PST<br>Category: COVER-UP/DECEPTIONS<br><br>ICTS, the company that handled security at the 9-11 airports, moved into railroad security only 2 months ago, and landed a contract for the London tube.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050503/35659.html?.v=1">biz.yahoo.com/bw/050503/35659.html?.v=1</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>

Thanks Swee - that is one that I have not seen mentioned anywhere. And of course, not in the news. <br><br>I remember a lot of talk about ICTS after 9/11. <br><br>I don't know that listing all the similarities are going to lead us anywhere. But if we keep this up, we might see a pattern emerge that is important.<br><br>For example, there is talk today of a "5th Bomber", reminds me of the "20th Terrorist" after 9/11 - someone to scapegoat?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>