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Suspicious fire destroys Toronto-area farmhouse containing ‘confinement room’

Adrian Morrow
Friday, Jan. 06, 2012

A suspicious fire has destroyed an abandoned farmhouse east of Toronto that contained a room designed to hold someone captive.

The two-storey white clapboard century home, which sits off a secluded rural road north of Pickering, caught fire sometime before 1:45 a.m. Friday. Several passersby called 911.

The house, on land expropriated by Transport Canada to build a future airport, was slated for demolition. The federal government sent a contractor to inspect it in November. The contractor discovered a confinement room in the basement.

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Police would not say whether they had kept the property under surveillance since making the find in November or what progress had been made in their investigation into the confinement room. It is not known who built the room or whether it was used for criminal activity or for some other purpose, such as shooting a movie.

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... le2293677/
PHOTOS: Look inside the mysterious dungeon room destroyed in fire

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The low-resolution images show several different angles of the room, which is believed to be 12-by-8-feet, and was located in the basement of the abandoned 136-year-old home at 140 Concession Rd. 7 in Pickering.

The dungeon-style room was discovered in December of last year. Police described it as having a heavy door with several locks designed to trap someone inside.

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An unnamed source interviewed by CBC News said the room had been heavily fortified when it was discovered by contractors in mid-December and the door into the room was constructed from layers of lumber.

Speaking as if they’d been inside the room, the source told CBC News the windows in the room were strong enough a crowbar could not break them.

Another image shows four large jugs of water tucked neatly against the wall under the bench.

The source speculated that based on the appearance and contents of the room, it could have been used to hold a hostage or even torture someone.

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The house was last inhabited approximately five years ago, but police said the former tenants are not suspects.
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/111 ... =1#article

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Not a dungeon for play or a film set. You don't torch those. (And you would construct a set to resemble a confinement room, not to function as one.)

I have to wonder why the police disclosed its existence. I have to wonder whether someone with police connections destroyed it.
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FWIW - no rigor, but my intuition made my stomach turn when as soon as I saw that picture.
A feeling that very bad events happened there.
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A video posted Dec 29. If I'd seen only this, I'd have thought it a Blair Witchy hoax.



Original story posted Dec 21:
Padlocked room in abandoned house raises alarm

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There isn’t a neighbour within screaming distance, save for Glen Cedars Golf Club and the suspicious eye of a roving government-hired security guard, who, along with four police officers, rushed to the area to deal with a curious Star reporter Tuesday morning.

“There’s a lot of stuff that goes on in the abandoned homes around the area,” said Dan Mayes, manager of the golf course.

Empty homes have been vandalized, burned down and used as a hangout by intoxicated teenagers. But something else was going on in the old farmhouse.

Sabean inspected the house in November 2010; he examines homes for their heritage value and has written reports for Transport Canada, which is in charge of the expansive swath of Crown land.

There was no confinement room then,” Sabean said, “but there was a lot of junk, which is normal when people leave homes they never owned.”

The house has been abandoned for at least five years, Sabean said, and is en route to dereliction, with its eavestroughs collapsing, paint chipping and windows boarded.

The former tenants, who police say aren’t suspects, sold herbs and flowers they grew on the property. The government boarded it up after they left.

An exhaustive forensic search is being done, according to Durham police spokesperson Dave Selby.

“Whoever built it,” Selby said, “we hope they’ll call us and tell us what they were doing there.”
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/110 ... ises-alarm
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Jeff wrote:Original story posted Dec 21:
Padlocked room in abandoned house raises alarm

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There isn’t a neighbour within screaming distance, save for Glen Cedars Golf Club and the suspicious eye of a roving government-hired security guard, who, along with four police officers, rushed to the area to deal with a curious Star reporter Tuesday morning.

“There’s a lot of stuff that goes on in the abandoned homes around the area,” said Dan Mayes, manager of the golf course.

Empty homes have been vandalized, burned down and used as a hangout by intoxicated teenagers. But something else was going on in the old farmhouse.

Sabean inspected the house in November 2010; he examines homes for their heritage value and has written reports for Transport Canada, which is in charge of the expansive swath of Crown land.

“There was no confinement room then,” Sabean said, “but there was a lot of junk, which is normal when people leave homes they never owned.”

The house has been abandoned for at least five years, Sabean said, and is en route to dereliction, with its eavestroughs collapsing, paint chipping and windows boarded.

The former tenants, who police say aren’t suspects, sold herbs and flowers they grew on the property. The government boarded it up after they left.

An exhaustive forensic search is being done, according to Durham police spokesperson Dave Selby.

“Whoever built it,” Selby said, “we hope they’ll call us and tell us what they were doing there.”
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/110 ... ises-alarm
So the house was under heavy surveillance by authorities and then mysteriously catches on fire in early January?
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Eeew. I'm saying, mysterious farmhouse, suspicious dungeon, abandoned fire
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Reminds me of the farmhouse in the movie "The Road", where people were kept in a "confinement room" to be eaten later...
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My thoughts are this. Although abandoned, the property still has an owner. If sensitive illegal activities were conducted there, they would not invest the money in building something so elaborate at the risk of the property at any moment being inspected, refurbished or sold without a guarantee of... solitude. Such a guarantee can only come from the owners. That is, likely a bank. Go from there.
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Occult Means Hidden wrote:My thoughts are this. Although abandoned, the property still has an owner. If sensitive illegal activities were conducted there, they would not invest the money in building something so elaborate at the risk of the property at any moment being inspected, refurbished or sold without a guarantee of... solitude. Such a guarantee can only come from the owners. That is, likely a bank. Go from there.
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There isn’t a neighbour within screaming distance, save for Glen Cedars Golf Club
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The house, on land expropriated by Transport Canada to build a future airport, was slated for demolition. The federal government sent a contractor to inspect it in November. The contractor discovered a confinement room in the basement.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... le2293677/

So the owner of the property when the confinement room was built was the federal government.
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Right, Jeff. It was owned by the crown. very creepy, indeed. Someone started that fire. And there should be fingerprints that could be traced. Odd that the room shows no sign of fire damage.

Let's hope this room saw no use.
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Iamwhomiam wrote:Right, Jeff. It was owned by the crown. very creepy, indeed. Someone started that fire. And there should be fingerprints that could be traced. Odd that the room shows no sign of fire damage.
The pictures of the room were taken in the days between its discovery and the fire. I don't know the condition of the room now.

As someone commented to The Globe and Mail story, authorities appear to be acting as if the two potential crimes cancel each other out. I'll be surprised if we hear anything further about this.
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The owner of the property would have plenty of advance notice that the land was being expropriated for the airport, hence plenty of opportunity to destroy any incriminating evidence. That it wasn't burned until after the dungeon was discovered suggests to me that the owner had nothing to do with it.
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From Glen Cedars website :

Glen Cedars Golf Club is the ultimate location for your next Corporate, Social or Fundraising Golf Tournament. This championship 18-hole golf course has been a favourite course for many years and promises to provide you with a great golf experience, no matter which level of golfer you are. The Tournament team at Glen Cedars will make your event nothing but spectacular. With many years of Tournament experience, you will be met with a mature golf course in great condition and a staff that can deliver what you need to make your day perfect.

Our Tournament Coordinator has had years of golf tournament planning and is anxious to help you start planning your 2011 Golf Tournament. Many prime dates are still available.

Glen Cedars Golf Club provides you with…

18 Championship Holes
200 Capacity for Sit Down Dinner
Shower & Locker Facilities (nuff said..)
GPS Enabled Golf Carts (would love to see the GPS-tracks for those in relation to the farmhouse)
Gross & Net Scoring
Placement of Hole Signage and Competition Markers
Tournament Coordinator to help you plan every detail of your day, before you arrive (Like setting up a temporary dungeon for you and your buddies?)
Tournament Merchandiser to aid you in ordering prizes, gifts and auction items, with any budget and many different product options – we arrange the shipping and delivery – everything will be here for you on your day!
4 for 3 Coupon
Shotguns receive a complementary foursome for their Prize Table (What the Hell does this even mean?)
Customized Rules Sheet (upon request)
Designated Registration Area

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DrEvil wrote: Shotguns receive a complementary foursome for their Prize Table (What the Hell does this even mean?)
"Shotgun" in this context is a type of golf tournament. The club is offering to throw in a complimentary round of golf for four players as a prize if you hold a shotgun tournament there.
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It took me about an hour to download and view the video, and now other questions arise in my mind, now knowing it was filmed before the fire. The dungeon door was locked. It's entirely possible that the videographer broke the lock in order to enter and then took pictures of the room, or at least one.

But I do find it odd that the fire occurred some two weeks after The Star's first article ran on December 21st.

I agree, Jeff, we'll probably hear no more about it and I would be surprised if we did. Always best to leave eternally lying dogs sleep, at least for those dogs that built it.
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