Citigroup document admits we're living in a Plutonomy

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Citigroup document admits we're living in a Plutonomy

Postby Nordic » Sun May 29, 2011 2:09 pm

Thought this needed its own thread.

Citigroup documents admits we're living in a Plutonomy, and seems to think it's just great.

I haven't seen this before. A friend of mine posted it on FB:

http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/files/667 ... part-1.pdf

[quote]
SUMMARY
➤ The World is dividing into two blocs - the Plutonomy and the rest. The U.S.,
UK, and Canada are the key Plutonomies - economies powered by the wealthy.
Continental Europe (ex-Italy) and Japan are in the egalitarian bloc.

➤ Equity risk premium embedded in “global imbalances” are unwarranted. In
plutonomies the rich absorb a disproportionate chunk of the economy and have
a massive impact on reported aggregate numbers like savings rates, current
account deficits, consumption levels, etc. This imbalance in inequality
expresses itself in the standard scary “ global imbalances”. We worry less.

➤ There is no “average consumer” in a Plutonomy. Consensus analyses focusing
on the “average” consumer are flawed from the start. The Plutonomy Stock
Basket outperformed MSCI AC World by 6.8% per year since 1985. Does
even better if equities beat housing. Select names: Julius Baer, Bulgari,
Richemont, Kuoni, and Toll Brothers.

..........


........ the so called “global imbalances” that worry so
many of our equity clients who may subsequently put a lower multiple on equities due to
these imbalances, is not as dangerous and hostile as one might think. Our economics
team led by Lewis Alexander researches and writes about these issues regularly and they
are the experts. But as we went about our business of finding stock ideas for our clients,
we thought it important to highlight this provocative macro thesis that emerged, and if
correct, could have major implications in terms of how equity investors assess the risk
embedded in equity markets. Sometimes kicking the tires can tell you a lot about the
car-business.

Well, here goes. Little of this note should tally with conventional thinking. Indeed,
traditional thinking is likely to have issues with most of it. We will posit that: 1) the
world is dividing into two blocs - the plutonomies, where economic growth is powered
by and largely consumed by the wealthy few, and the rest.


............

2) We project that the plutonomies (the U.S., UK, and Canada) will likely see even more
income inequality
, disproportionately feeding off a further rise in the profit share in their
economies, capitalist-friendly governments, more technology-driven productivity, and
globalization.

..........

4) In a plutonomy there is no such animal as “the U.S. consumer” or “the UK
consumer”, or indeed the “Russian consumer”. There are rich consumers, few in
number, but disproportionate in the gigantic slice of income and consumption they take.
There are the rest, the “non-rich”, the multitudinous many, but only accounting for
surprisingly small bites of the national pie.

.....................
:shock:

And that's just from the first couple of pages!
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Re: Citigroup document admits we're living in a Plutonomy

Postby Asta » Sun May 29, 2011 7:14 pm

Sometimes I think the working class is just allowed to exist for the entertainment of the wealthy. Oh, and to be their servants. And maybe even their medical guinea pigs. But mostly we entertain them, and keep their lawns mowed. Service their luxury cars. Grow their food. Raise their children. Pay their taxes.

Saw on network news that nothing really has been done to help the people in the massive tornado attacks a month ago (Tuscaloosa, etc.). So a month from now nothing will have been done to help the people in Joplin. Unless there really is a racist agenda, but I won't allow myself to go down that paranoid path. Although I have to wonder.

I didn't read the article, I don't have to. It's obvious what's going down.
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Re: Citigroup document admits we're living in a Plutonomy

Postby gnosticheresy_2 » Sun May 29, 2011 7:32 pm

Frank Zappa wrote:The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.
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Re: Citigroup document admits we're living in a Plutonomy

Postby Nordic » Sun May 29, 2011 8:37 pm

As someone pointed out to me, this is from 2005!

Somehow that blew right by me. Or I blew right by that.

It's even more true now. I mean, this was before the financial crash of 2008! And they seem to have used that nice little event to turn the country into even MORE of a plutonomy.

Anyway, I'm kind of embarrassed I missed this six years ago. Or maybe it just came out recently?
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Re: Citigroup document admits we're living in a Plutonomy

Postby justdrew » Sun May 29, 2011 8:42 pm

Nordic wrote:As someone pointed out to me, this is from 2005!

Somehow that blew right by me. Or I blew right by that.

It's even more true now. I mean, this was before the financial crash of 2008! And they seem to have used that nice little event to turn the country into even MORE of a plutonomy.

Anyway, I'm kind of embarrassed I missed this six years ago. Or maybe it just came out recently?


search here for plutonomy, you'll find refs going back a ways. it may be making another round for some reason at the moment. perhaps this years report contained new juicy tidbits.
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Postby Canadian_watcher » Mon May 30, 2011 8:03 am

from a completely "captain Obvious" perspective (and also more like folk-wisdom than analysis) I was talking with my SO yesterday about consumer goods and how today it seems that there are available only very high end items and goods that are so cheap (not price wise, just quality wise) that they are an insult. We were trying to think if this had always been the case and I don't think it has been.

Think of clothing today: the stuff I can afford literally falls apart or starts to stain under the arms or shrinks within two or three wears. I do much better when I buy used clothing (which I used to do almost exclusively and will start to do again)

Furniture/cabinetry: If I can afford it it is made of pressed board, usually requires assembly and is impossible to square. It SCREAMS cheap. We are trying to buy second hand when we can but that is proving almost impossible with some items.

Cars, flooring/roofing/decking, appliances, even food and toiletries...

Since I do so much antique shopping, salvaging, and second hand shop haunting I can see that things made up to the 1970s were truly better made. The middle class could buy a couch and expect to have it 20 years later. Or a fridge. Or a jacket. It's infuriating that we've had to buy three couches since 2000 because it's not like they were inexpensive - they were just cheap.
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Re: Citigroup document admits we're living in a Plutonomy

Postby JackRiddler » Mon May 30, 2011 11:37 am

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Thanks Nordic.

The Plutonomy memo and all that it signifies is well-covered in The Shock Doctrine, by the way, and I'm pretty sure it figured in Capitalism: A Love Story. Here's a speech transcript on it by Bill Moyers, posted on the Wall Street thread's longest single page:

Bill Moyers: "Welcome to the Plutocracy!"
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Postby sunny » Mon May 30, 2011 11:44 am

Canadian_watcher wrote:from a completely "captain Obvious" perspective (and also more like folk-wisdom than analysis) I was talking with my SO yesterday about consumer goods and how today it seems that there are available only very high end items and goods that are so cheap (not price wise, just quality wise) that they are an insult. We were trying to think if this had always been the case and I don't think it has been.

Think of clothing today: the stuff I can afford literally falls apart or starts to stain under the arms or shrinks within two or three wears. I do much better when I buy used clothing (which I used to do almost exclusively and will start to do again)

Furniture/cabinetry: If I can afford it it is made of pressed board, usually requires assembly and is impossible to square. It SCREAMS cheap. We are trying to buy second hand when we can but that is proving almost impossible with some items.

Cars, flooring/roofing/decking, appliances, even food and toiletries...

Since I do so much antique shopping, salvaging, and second hand shop haunting I can see that things made up to the 1970s were truly better made. The middle class could buy a couch and expect to have it 20 years later. Or a fridge. Or a jacket. It's infuriating that we've had to buy three couches since 2000 because it's not like they were inexpensive - they were just cheap.


This is my experience as well. I rarely buy anything new anymore except for electronics and kids toys. One of the girls got an Easy-Bake Oven for Xmas and it's already broken. Mine lasted so long my sister, who is ten years younger than me, played with it when she was little. My living room couch belonged to my grandmother and it's still solid. The last new couch I bought for the family room cost me a solid grand and I had to ditch it within three years.
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Re: Citigroup document admits we're living in a Plutonomy

Postby justdrew » Mon May 30, 2011 2:38 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

In 1960, cultural critic Vance Packard published The Waste Makers, promoted as an exposé of "the systematic attempt of business to make us wasteful, debt-ridden, permanently discontented individuals."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel
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Postby 82_28 » Mon May 30, 2011 2:51 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:from a completely "captain Obvious" perspective (and also more like folk-wisdom than analysis) I was talking with my SO yesterday about consumer goods and how today it seems that there are available only very high end items and goods that are so cheap (not price wise, just quality wise) that they are an insult. We were trying to think if this had always been the case and I don't think it has been.

Think of clothing today: the stuff I can afford literally falls apart or starts to stain under the arms or shrinks within two or three wears. I do much better when I buy used clothing (which I used to do almost exclusively and will start to do again)

Furniture/cabinetry: If I can afford it it is made of pressed board, usually requires assembly and is impossible to square. It SCREAMS cheap. We are trying to buy second hand when we can but that is proving almost impossible with some items.

Cars, flooring/roofing/decking, appliances, even food and toiletries...

Since I do so much antique shopping, salvaging, and second hand shop haunting I can see that things made up to the 1970s were truly better made. The middle class could buy a couch and expect to have it 20 years later. Or a fridge. Or a jacket. It's infuriating that we've had to buy three couches since 2000 because it's not like they were inexpensive - they were just cheap.


Yeah. I once lived in a building built in 1909 (hell, where I live now was built in 1902), but the closet for the apartment was where the old "Murphy Bed" was. And it dawned on me, where did people put all their clothes back then?!? Of course, it was because they had a simple few outfits that were well made and that they took care of. I also have a motto about cars too (A: don't ever involve yourself in car payments) but most importantly is B, which is I will only buy a car that was built before 1977 or so. My vehicle that I'm not driving right now is a '71 VW camper van, before that it was a '77 Dodge Tradesman van. I've owned newer cars, but there is nothing like the staying power of an older vehicle. Easy to diagnose any problem. No computer to hook it up to. I had a Hyundai that wouldn't pass emissions simply because the computer on it had fritzed out. But there's nothing like utilizing a vehicle with a whole lot of history built into it and its raw materials and superior workmanship and engineering have already been "paid for" and when you buy it, you're giving your money to a local dude and any work done on it goes to a local shop.

You know that VW dealerships cannot even work on one of the simplest car designs ever made -- the aircooled VWs of yesteryear? Because they don't know how to work on something so simple and takes a little artistry in order to keep them running. Service shops now make most of their money on the fee they charge you just to hook it up to the computer. We went from a making and doing things economy to an economy built upon upwards of 10 tiers of fees.

This is why I like bartending and I've come to the realization that this is what I'm probably gonna do until my legs give out. I make my money to survive by just me and the person I serve, hang out with, get to know etc. The owners do the buying and all that and worry about their shit. But my job is simply to have one tier of a fee and it is completely up to the patron to decide how much I get from them. All I make are friends and some money. Then when I run into them somewhere else, I buy them something and we talk and converse some more.

A co-worker just bought a house and she was telling me about all these fees she's getting dinged with and how confusing and convoluted it all is. I said, that's why when it comes down to it, instead of a mortgage I would just roll down to REI buy a tent any day before getting involved in any of that. Which, is also the reason I have the VW. Right now it's my spare bedroom, but I always know I have a house to live in no matter what.
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Re: Citigroup document admits we're living in a Plutonomy

Postby Nordic » Mon May 30, 2011 3:24 pm

around here two of the busiest stores are a new and beautiful and horribly overpriced whole foods, and the .99 cent store. there's always a wait just to get into the parking lot of the .99 store.

and yeah things are made like crap now, and usually in china.

and if anyone actually saw how modern houses are actually built these days, they'd never shell out the money for one. dispoable hollywood sets are built better than supposedly permanent houses these days. years ago i worked on a corporate film for one of these major homebuilders and they were all proud of how chintzy they were. they could buil them faster and cheaper than ever! there was zero consideration given to making something that would last. they might as well have been making toasters or coffeepots that were gonna sell for 9.99
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Postby 82_28 » Mon May 30, 2011 3:46 pm

Nordic wrote:around here two of the busiest stores are a new and beautiful and horribly overpriced whole foods, and the .99 cent store. there's always a wait just to get into the parking lot of the .99 store.

and yeah things are made like crap now, and usually in china.

and if anyone actually saw how modern houses are actually built these days, they'd never shell out the money for one. dispoable hollywood sets are built better than supposedly permanent houses these days. years ago i worked on a corporate film for one of these major homebuilders and they were all proud of how chintzy they were. they could buil them faster and cheaper than ever! there was zero consideration given to making something that would last. they might as well have been making toasters or coffeepots that were gonna sell for 9.99


No kidding. I grew up in an offshoot of Mission Viejo California called Highlands Ranch Colorado. Became the biggest, boomingest suburb in the whole US for a time in the late 90s. But one could only stand aghast when you watched those houses go up. They were made of literally nothing -- cardboard is all it was with a little wood as the frame. It was the "dream community" though and all our parents clamored to move in there. Every Sunday was go to church then go model home viewing (if the Broncos weren't playing). But that shit, those houses now, at least to me and though the trees are larger and stuff, but those houses are really starting to look like shit.
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Postby Canadian_watcher » Mon May 30, 2011 6:20 pm

Ya my man and I are probably going to sell our house this summer and rent. (The house is cute and was built like a brick shithouse in about 1945 BTW!)

But all in all it is too much - property tax, insurance, maintenance, interest. I mean we can and do afford it, but WHY? I worked out how much we've paid per month on maintenance and it's over $505. I mean WTF?

The work that goes in to just keeping it from depreciating is incredible.. and like I said before we can't afford high end stuff so the shingles we put in only 6 years ago are already showing signs of curling.. we put in new windows, doors, hot water tank and furnace this year and I want to get the heck out of here before we are faced with having to redo what we've already done. Sell it at the top of the market and get the max out of it and take our money to invest in something with a real rate of return. Also - no back-breaking freaking endless labour.

Also, those fees everyone is talking about are just going up and up and up.. if we rent all they can raise the rent by is 1% a year or thereabouts so as far as we'd be concerned the city could double property taxes, the electric company can quadruple rates and the insurance companies can gouge away. We'll be covered.
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Re: Citigroup document admits we're living in a Plutonomy

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:16 pm

http://www.mediafire.com/view/mxhgqywl8 ... Y-MEMO.pdf

http://www.mediafire.com/view/dlsfdbbe5 ... -MEMO_.pdf

Interesting & comprehensive read on the attempts to disappear said reports: http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/2011 ... shell.html

For folks who do not want to wade through the actual reports, this summary by Bill Black is superb

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Postby semper occultus » Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:30 am

...much obliged for the links ...but what's with the yellow censor's pencil - were they always like that do we know ? ( ...that's the bit I really want to read now...)


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