Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

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Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:59 pm

That video was posted two days ago by Heaven Swan:

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=40709&p=645718&hilit=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2Fvideo%2Fus%2F100000005473328#p645718

Clearly, your not reading what others have been posting.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:12 pm

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/sho ... -shooting/

Officials with MGM Resorts International warned Oct. 1 shooting hero Jesus Campos that he could be facing difficult interviews just hours before he was set to make five TV appearances last week, the international president of the union representing Mandalay Bay security guards said Friday.

“One of the MGM officials voiced her concern to Jesus that {Fox News’ Sean} Hannity was a very difficult interview, he would interrupt him, etc.” said David Hickey, international president of the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America. “That’s one of the reasons I asked to have a private meeting with them because I was concerned about how or if it would affect Jesus’ confidence in completing the interviews that we had already scheduled.”

When Hickey emerged from that meeting the afternoon of Oct. 12, Campos was gone.

Campos, the Mandalay Bay security guard who first encountered mass shooter Stephen Paddock and has become a critical witness in the incident, appeared Wednesday on “The Ellen DeGeneres Show.” But last week he was scheduled to appear on five news programs, including “The Sean Hannity Show” on Fox News. In the days leading up to the interviews, Hickey said he worked with the 25-year-old Campos to prepare him and give “him confidence to do something he had never done before.”

But just a few hours before Campos was set to begin the first of his television interviews at 6 p.m. last Thursday, Hickey said MGM officials started filling his head with fears.

“I was concerned when, four hours before these interviews are to start, that questions of him being capable to do these interviews are being thrown out,” Hickey said.

At the time, Campos was staying in a Las Vegas-area hotel suite, with a living room and an adjoining bedroom. Hickey and MGM officials met privately in the bedroom about 1 p.m. When they came out at around 2 p.m., Campos had disappeared.

“He never told me personally that he wanted to not do the interviews, Hickey said.

Since then, Campos appears to have been working directly with MGM. On Tuesday, as questions swirled about Campos’ whereabouts, MGM released a statement that said, “Jesus Campos wants to tell his story at a time and place of his choosing. He’s asked that everyone respect his request for privacy. We could not be more proud of Jesus.”

Later that day, DeGeneres announced she had landed an interview with Campos. The entertainer has ties to MGM. In September, the show taped a segment where she surprised people playing her slot machine at the MGM Grand.

DeGeneres asked Campos no questions about the timeline during the interview.

“I don’t think that’s her forte,” Hickey said. “That’s not the purpose of her show. She’s an entertainment show. It’s not the venue that we had — we had five serious venues that he was going to speak on. And if he chose that or whoever is assisting him or speaking for him, if they chose that venue that’s on them. It’s not the venue I would have chosen for such a serious event.”

An MGM official on Friday said, “Jesus Campos wanted to tell his story at a time and place of his choosing. When it comes to media appearances, he alone made that decision.”

Hickey said he has not heard from Campos or MGM since Oct. 12, when the security guard vanished from the hotel suite.

“Obviously, we were there to assist Mr. Campos at his request,” Hickey said. “If it comes up, we’ll do it again. If not, when and if he returns to work then obviously he’ll be a member of the organization and we’ll go from there. I don’t know whether I’ll hear anything.”
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:30 pm



your right.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Iamwhomiam » Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:30 pm

There goes Hickey's 15 minutes of fame - poof!

Everybody in the press, whether MSM or alternative media, loves sticking microphones in victims faces as though they enjoy watching their grief up close and personal. Fuck 'em all, I say. Everyone is entitled to their privacy, especially so the survivors in mass murders.

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Again with the confused language! There's noting to my right but a mirror and filing cabinet!
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby SonicG » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:08 pm

Heaven Swan » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:27 am wrote:At the link is a great post about symbolism and motives, it's long and has lots of photos so I'm recopying only the last two paragraphs.

Re: the motive, I find the last paragraph to be quite profound. It may sum up our answer. One crazed act inspires another...and one thing is certain...there will be others.

http://www.nickvanderleek.com/2017/10/b ... vides.html

Bestselling True Crime Author provides motive for Las Vegas gunman Stephen Paddock [UPDATED]

Stephen Paddock's motive was revenge. How do we know? Revenge for what? It's not rocket-science, just a tried-and-tested true crime approach
- by Nick van der Leek



Last two paragraphs of the post:

We get an added sense, from the fact that Paddock took his own life, that he knew what he was doing was wrong, and was willing to pay a price for it. But he felt justified, if he was going to lose in the gamble of life and love, then someone else [it didn't matter who] also had to pay the price. Who? The society that had rejected him. The breaking of the glass of the Mandalay Hotel is symbolic of the transparency not only into the room of Paddock's broken world, but also into the world itself. We live in a world of broken people, and when we discover the world to be empty and meaningless we're devastated. We have no idea how to put the pieces of ourselves back together again. That is an indictment not only of disconnected, addicted individuals, but of a society so disconnected from itself that it has begun to elect madmen to tell it what it wants to hear, and reality be damned.

In such a world, where there is no meaning, no significance and no consequence, where money maketh and unmaketh the man, where money is the sole arbiter of value....in such a world, make no mistake, madmen will continue to come out of the woodwork. One mad act inspires another. One fragile identity seeds more fragile identities. A world where lives are reduced to money and violence isn't a world that respects life. It's a world that respects madness. Until further notice, this is the world we find ourselves in. When we're asked what the motive is of madmen, we can't see them not because they're obscure, but because we've succumbed to the madness as well. It's a madness composed of the inability to think for ourselves.


It is important to not underestimate the dysfunctional nature not just of individual families, but since the main source of this dysfunction is the atomizing effect/necessity of capitalism, it is important to look at the dysfunctioning of society as a whole. I understand the weariness of quibbling over "details", but like the San Bernadino shootings and even the Pulse nightclub shooting, these are horrific events and the populace should be informed in detail...they should want to be informed, but that's another story...Indeed, the sad resignation to the fact that, well, people are crazy/there are terrorists...it will get worse, but let's just move forward and hope for the best. The lottery mentality that emanates from Vegas allows us all to think, "Well tomorrow I will become a millionaire, not have to deal with these problems of the hoi polloi - I will be immune to everything..."

Speaking of Vegas symbolism. Has anyone been following Christopher Knowles on all this? He had already been following some wild MK Ultra connection to the singer of the Cocteau Twins as well as others with a lot of references to all the crazy pseudo-Egyptian stuff in Vegas. His alignment with Hoagland surprises me but I suppose he is predicting a return of Niburu? Shit might be the only thing to save us. And by save us, I mean wipe us out completely...(I had written Hoagland off long ago, but recently checked up on him to see he is a Roger Stone fanboy...hmmmm...)
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Elvis » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:43 am

PufPuf93 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:11 am wrote:The key to this story is where Paddock got the money and possibly some of his acquaintances we have yet to learn.

I can see as a motivation that say he had played out his wealth and provided for his woman friend before the massacre.

I can conceive that Paddock is a patsy and/or part of a larger conspiracy (that maybe went wrong).

Could even be the too common situation where the FBI is working both sides of the equation.

Like to know if he maintained any contact from Lockheed Martin days.



Those are all sensible thoughts and your post pretty well sums up my own views so far.

The Lockheed connection does gnaw.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby Elvis » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:44 am

An accountant at Lockheed. Think about that.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:36 am

Heaven Swan » 23 Oct 2017 17:34 wrote:Regarding the adjoining room--there's nothing strange or baffling about this---hotels worldwide often have contiguous rooms that they outfit with special doors that can be sealed off (when they rent the rooms to separate parties) or left unlocked when they rent out the rooms together, usually to more than one guest.

That said, how tedious! This thread has gotten bogged down in minutiae.

On the other hand, I appreciate 82_28's post about Las Vegas.

The tragic event seems deeply symbolic--

While America goes down in flames, a deranged and slovenly millionaire blows his brains out, taking 59+ souls along with him, in the heart of the country's glitzy shrine to meaninglessness, debauchery and greed...


Yes, yes. The symbolism is very apt. So no need to worry about whether Paddock had booked the suite's adjoining room or not. No need to know why Paddock felt the need to break two windows including one that was located in an adjoining room that Brian Hodge says he was staying in. No need to question anything about this entire event because its symbolism is such an apt portrayal of our decadent, decrepit, pointless patriarchy. Paddock's corpse is a 100% guilty metaphor of America's corpse. So questioning anything whatsoever about this event would be getting bogged down in minutiae.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:45 am

peartreed » 23 Oct 2017 18:55 wrote:Paddock’s nihilistic motivation likely stems from his identification with his father’s criminality, as the spawn of evil, combined with his more recent increasing dissatisfaction and boredom with the drive for material acquisition that motivates the rest of us. To match or exceed Daddy’s notoriety he sought infamy as release.


I still think Harvey the Evil Rabbit made him do it. Harvey wanted to match or exceed his father who had the power to stop clocks.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:06 am

Iamwhomiam » 23 Oct 2017 20:16 wrote:
stickdog99 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:37 am wrote:
It would be nice if you recognized my response to your question, stickdog.
It's quite frustrating to take the time to answer your questions, and pointless, in fact, if you fail to recognize your question was answered.

Your first two questions have already been answered in this thread. The adjoining room was part and parcel to the complimentary suite, to use or not to use it was Paddock's whim alone. It was not a room let out for rent.


There have been hundreds of posts on thread. I thought some Aussie claimed that he had rented the adjoining room. I thought the reason the LVPD had Paddock's check in date wrong is because he paid for his suite while his original, earlier booked room had been comped. Who provided the information that "the adjoining room was part and parcel to the complimentary suite, to use or not to use it was Paddock's whim alone"? Who said "it was not a room let out for rent"? When was this information released? How does this jibe with Lombardo's claim that Paddock paid for his suite? Why would Paddock pay for a second room to use at his whim when the suite he paid for was more than large enough for a family of four?


I don't know if any other has chosen to answer you stickdog, because I haven't read further. It seems you and perhaps others are convinced this mass murder was instigated by the FBI. I asked you to explain what you felt would be a motive for the FBI to commit this particular mass murder you chose not to answer and you now expect me to answer more of your questions?

You've been researching social media and the MSM for information about this event since it occurred, just like many of us. Why do I believe the room was comped and that it was reserved for comping preferred customers at the casino? Because it was reported and I read it or listened to it after someone posted it in this thread or from a link someone here provided to another source. I suspect it must have originated with the hotel management. so don't expect me to search it out for you. Try google.

If anything, the Aussie, if he actually exists, was in a room next to Paddock, was in the room next to 32134 or to the left of the room adjoining the suite (as shown in correct graphics of the floor plan), 2 doors down from the suite.

You know the FBI did it and I don't even know if "Paddock" ever existed. Your turn.


http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/ar ... 47656.html

He heard officers over the radio announce the gunman’s room number. It was one digit off from his: 31-134 and adjoining room 135. Stephen Paddock, the shooter, was in 32-134 and adjoining room 135.

This guy shows off the entire suite Paddock had, but for some reason does not show the "adjoining room": https://www.bitchute.com/video/7yLTMIzlU48/
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:11 am

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/l ... below.html

Floyd Conrade, 50, a storage administrator for information technology from Emporia, Kan., checked into the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas on Sunday night. He was in town for a four-day conference, and assigned to Room 31-134.

He, of course, had no idea what was being planned directly over his head. Hours later, a man on the floor above — in the conjoined rooms of 32-134 (a standard room) and 32-135 (a 1,705-square-foot suite) opened fire on a crowd attending a country music concert across South Las Vegas Boulevard. In each room, the man, Stephen Paddock, broke a floor-to-ceiling window to commit the massacre.

Q: Tell me about the waiting and wondering?

A: It was pretty well quiet after that, until they started breaching the room. There was an explosion-type noise. They used, like, a flash bang to breach the room. When they breached the 135 room it was loud. When they breached the 134 room, it actually put me on the floor. It was really loud.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:13 am

http://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/10/03/ ... d-massacre

Police have now sealed off the room, easily indentifiable from outside as Paddock smashed a window in order to take aim at the crowds below with his arsenal of weapons.

"He's on the 32nd floor, room 134, and I'm on the 33rd floor room 134," Rodriguez said in an interview in the hotel lobby.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:16 am

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-up ... b81c23cf34

HOTEL room 32135 at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas — a large suite with sweeping views of the Strip — served as the location where Stephen Paddock chose to carry out the deadliest mass shooting in modern US history.

After checking into the $644-per-night room on the 32nd floor, Paddock opened fire on the Route 91 Harvest Country Music Festival, killing at least 58 people and injuring more than 500 others.

While it’s still early into the investigation, many people are wondering what will happen to room 32135, Fox News reports.
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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Postby stickdog99 » Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:29 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ooter.html

An Australian has revealed that he believes Stephen Paddock, the gunman that terrorised the Las Vegas strip on Monday night, was staying next door to him.

Brian Hodge, who hails from NSW, told The Age that he was staying in room 32134 at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino.

Paddock, who killed at least 59 people and injured 527 more was tracked down and then found dead in room 32135 - next door to the 36-year-old.

Mr Hodge is thankful that he was not in his room at the time police used controlled explosives to enter room 32134 and locate Paddock.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/sho ... the-world/

The Sydney Morning Herald’s website led with a rotating package about the shootings highlighting four stories at a time. Among them were an interview with Brian Hodge, a New South Wales man, who was staying at Mandalay Bay. “I’m room 32134, so I’m just so glad I didn’t make it back to my room,” Hodge told the newspaper. Stephen Paddock was found in room 32135. The newspaper also interviewed a woman from Perth and a family from New South Wales who were caught up in the commotion.

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/national ... unman.html

Brian Hodge says he was staying in room 32134 of the Mandalay Bay Hotel while the gunman Stephen Paddock was in room 32135 as he fired at people at an outdoor country music festival.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/hardcore-la ... ysy9v.html

"I'm room 32134 so I'm just so glad I didn't make it back to my room," he said.
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