Goodbye, Saddam -- and thanks for the memories

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Goodbye, Saddam -- and thanks for the memories

Postby professorpan » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:20 am

A very nice Flash chronology of Saddam's history -- the truth you will not see on the cable news channels.:

http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

(On edit: Yes, this video does push the Al-Qaeda-did-it theory of 9/11, but the history of Saddam's relationship with the CIA is well-chronicled. Just wanted to point that out before someone accuses me of pimping the official version of 9/11).
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Postby Sweejak » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:02 am

"If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us."
-George H.W. Bush to journalist Sarah McClendon.
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Postby yesferatu » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:25 am

Sweejak wrote:"If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us."
-George H.W. Bush to journalist Sarah McClendon.


Why the Bush Crime Family Wants Saddam Iced

by Wayne Madsen

Iraq's former dictator managed to avoid one of the world's most high-tech assassination efforts during the Iraq War campaign only to be allegedly discovered by U.S. forces hiding in a hole in the ground near Tikrit. There is little doubt that the trial of Saddam Hussein by a U.S. puppet government in the Green Zone of Baghdad has been a charade and a miscarriage of justice.

Saddam's death sentence decided by an Iraqi government-appointed and U.S.-approved judge on Dec. 26 was never in doubt, considering the knowledge the former Iraqi leader possesses of past crimes of the Bush family and their coterie of friends and partners in providing Iraq with much of the biological and chemical weaponry used against the Kurds, Shi'as, and Iranians.

Saddam Hussein's willingness to provide the Western media with documents and other evidence of the connivance of George H. W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Frank Carlucci, and other Reagan-Bush administration principals was made apparent to this editor in the months preceding the March 2003 American attack on Iraq.

A senior Iraqi official contacted a British colleague of this editor and passed on a personal offer from Saddam Hussein to provide an "enterprising" Western journalist with the proof of America's sanctioning of Saddam's use of U.S.-supplied chem-bio weapons during the Iran-Iraq War, including Iraq's attack on the Kurdish village of Halabja. Also included in Saddam's "package" would be top secret information regarding his role as a longtime asset for the CIA, dating from his student days in Cairo.

The essence of the offer passed to this editor via the British interlocutor was that Saddam, aware that George W. Bush was going to attack Iraq, ordered his intelligence service to gather up all incriminating evidence that would show the world that Iraq's past "weapons of mass destruction" were provided by the Reagan and Bush I administrations.

This proof undoubtedly included tape recorded conversations between Saddam and his advisers and Ronald Reagan's personal envoy to Iraq, Rumsfeld. Saddam hoped that the exposure of the Reagan-Bush administrations would embarrass Washington and derail its attack plans.

The offer from Baghdad was straightforward -- arrive in Baghdad overland from Jordan and the proof would be handed over. There was one slight hitch. Having such incriminating evidence -- documents and proof that the Reagan administration and that of George W. Bush's father aided and abetted in Saddam's military's use of chem-bio weaponry against Iranians and his own people -- would have likely made any "enterprising" Western journalist an inviting target for a number of bad actors the moment that journalist crossed into Jordanian territory from Iraq.

Ironically, Saddam Hussein was more willing to provide the media with classified and sensitive information to expose the machinations of the United States than anyone in the George W. Bush administration or that of his father. It is very clear why the Bush administration wants Saddam dead and it has nothing to do with Saddam's alleged "crimes against humanity."

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com>>

(re-posted from another saddam thread.)
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Which Saddam did we get?

Postby Avalon » Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:48 pm

Greencrow passed on a link (thanks!) to the piglipstick blog. The blog owner, nolocontendere, reminds us that Saddam was known to employ doubles, and that Saddam's wife visited this one and said he wasn't her husband. There are many other links worth following in that article, including details on why the capture may have been done by the Kurds, and how ripening dates in a photo show something very fishy.

Aside from nolocontendere's good range of sources, special points are earned for a splendid adjective: "his piglatin sons Ouday and Quasay."

http://piglipstick.blogspot.com/
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double or quits

Postby blanc » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:20 pm

many wonder about the double. wmd were supplied by usa and uk , one of reasons to hush fraud squad investigation of slush fund in el y. and related deals. it seems rather incredible that saddam hadn't worked out an exit strategy. guess we'll just have to guess.
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Postby HMKGrey » Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:25 pm

Don' it make you prouder'n shit?


http://tohellwithculture.blogspot.com/

Tonight, we hanged former Iraqi dictator and 40-year CIA asset Saddam Hussein at an undisclosed location apparently outside of the Green Zone in Baghdad.

The major US networks are now falling over themselves trying to figure out whether or not to show the footage of his demise.

No sentient being can feel any good will be achieved by this naked act of horror. Apparently Bush slept soundly in his bed while this dirty work was done but had been thoughtful enough to prepare a statement congratulating the Iraqi people on giving him such a fair trial.

This would be the trial that you and I know almost nothing of due to the draconian reporting parameters our own government placed on it and which the suppine media were only too happy to follow. The same trial that everyone from the American Bar Association to Amnesty International declared a sham and a scandal. And, of course, we are talking about an American President applauding the idea of fair trials while he and his henchmen dedicate an unGodly amount of their own time and resources to eliminating any right to such a thing in America itself.

Yet, even a cursory glance through the file marked "Handy Arabic Dictators Who Will Do Our Bidding" reveals enough dirt to illustrate with perfect clarity just why this thing was kibboshed from the outset.

Saddam, we know now, was A Company Man. Supported by the CIA since the sixties, Saddam lead a coup which Kennedy's people described as "a win for our side." Once he was installed, BP, Bechtel and GE all became major beneficiaries of his US-friendly worldview. He built a huge army which the US and Britain gladly equipped -- knowing full well that his approach to internal dissent was almost exclusively barbarous. In the 80's, Donald Rumsfeld famously visited him and spent useful time in Baghdad beach-heading for US and British business interests which had by now stretched to the supply of chemical and biological weapons materials too.

Saddam was our monster and a very useful one too. With Iran in flux he could be goaded easily in to launching an insanely costly and pointless war that would ensure that Arab fought Arab. And, of course, a decade later he stumbled in to Kuwait having been greenlighted on the notion by US Ambassador April Glaspie whom James Baker had asked to emphasize the US's disinterest in Iraq's border dispute with Kuwait.

I guess that he may have misheard Ms. Glaspie as it later turned out that what the US was really disinterested in was the plight of the Kurds in the north and the Marsh Arabs in the south. George HW Bush urged that these peoples should rise up but then authorized Saddam to fly helicopter gunships within established no-fly zones so that their destruction was swift and merciless.

You see, we weren't finished with Saddam yet. The last thing we needed was a collapsed Iraq. This would have been a strategic disaster and might well have seen the birth of a Supra-Iranian state.

The day drew to a close with the evil of sanctions. Sanctions that all agreed meant almost nothing to Saddam but turned a nation with a huge middle-class in to one of the poorest and most malnourished on the planet.

When asked about a UNICEF/WHO report that put infant deaths caused by the sanctions at approximately 500,000 in a decade, the charming Madeline Albright said that she felt it was "worth it."

We would do well to honor this moment. To look at it closely and deeply. For in the story of Saddam and the thirty year tragedy of Iraq we have a very clear lesson in what is really going on and what we allow in our name.

Saddam was an evil man. But he was indulged and encouraged by those who connive daily in a viciously immoral war on all of us. Saddam did terrible things. But he was a bit player in the bigger production that is deep politics.

You think we're the good guys? That it's the white hats versus the black ones?

I was reminded recently of the little reported scandal of Saddam's mass graves. Or, rather, the almost complete lack of them.

Before the invasion, Human Rights groups had estimated some 500,000 people had been 'vanished' by Saddam and his fearsome security apparatus. Our old friend, Iraqi PM and part time Iranian spy Iyad Allawi said that the number was most likely a million and yet by the middle of 2004 less than 5,000 bodies had been recovered despite a concerted effort by at least two US government supported agencies.

This is how it goes.

We're not winning in Iraq but we're not losing either. The capture of Osama has not been botched, it's simply a success that hasn't occurred yet.

And so on, and so forth.

We are no longer untroubled - we are indifferent. We might exist there; but should we really live there? We are forlorn like children, and experienced like old men, we are crude and sorrowful and superficial - I believe we are lost.
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Postby rrapt » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:04 pm

From an AP piece on Saddam after the "execution"...last line of a paragraph describing the procedure: "The footage cuts off just before the execution."

That is what I was looking for this morning, some confirmation that my hunch was right, that the double would not/could not be killed, and that it would be quite easy to fake it.

I'm still willing to look at the contrary POV here if anyone has evidence.
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Postby MASONIC PLOT » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:14 pm

Im 100% with you on this RRAPT.
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Re: Goodbye, Saddam -- and thanks for the memories

Postby seemslikeadream » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:06 pm

FBI File: Saddam Hussein
BY RUSS KICK · PUBLISHED MARCH 11, 2019 · UPDATED MARCH 11, 2019


NEW: First time online, 1500+ pages of the FBI's file on Saddam Hussein, incl material on his interrogation, the run-up to the Iraq invasion, and postwar Iraq.

Above you’ll find 1,581 pages of Saddam Hussein’s FBI file. This material has been released in the past but has never been online until now.

Another 1,000+ pages of pre-processed material are on their way and will be posted to this page when they arrive.

Beyond that, the FBI FOIA division (RIDS) let me know that unreleased portions of Hussein’s file exist. I filed a separate request for these but got completely denied because these pages “have already been properly reviewed and withheld pursuant to the provisions of the Freedom of Information and Privacy Acts.” No FOIA exemptions were mentioned, and I will be appealing. The letter is here.

Technical note: The FBI sent me 33 PDFs, which I’ve combined into the PDF above. The bookmarks show the original PDFs and have the original alphanumeric file names as FBI sent them. They are not in chronological order.

In a familiar turn of events, if you go to the FBI’s FOIA Vault and search for Hussein’s file, you’ll end up at this page. You will see two PDFs totaling 226 pages. You will not be told that this is only a fragment of Hussein’s file. You will be led to believe through implication that this is the whole thing. The PDFs are labeled “Part 1 of 2” and “Part 2 of 2.” Well, that must be the entire file. There are two parts, and they’re both here. But no.

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Be sure to check out pages 1,065 – 1,072 of the PDF — Seymour Hersh’s New Yorker article “Saddam’s Best Friend,” as vigorously annotated by someone at FBI. Here are two pages:

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https://altgov2.org/fbi-file-saddam-husssein/
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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