''Enforcing this bill would be a challenge''

[nomo]

http://www.wtvq.com/content/midatlantic ... -0011.html

*Kentucky Lawmaker Wants to Make Anonymous Internet Posting Illegal*

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 - 11:11 PM Updated: 12:40 PM




By Kellie Wilson

Kentucky Representative Tim Couch filed a bill this week to make
anonymous posting online illegal.

The bill would require anyone who contributes to a website to register
their real name, address and e-mail address with that site.

Their full name would be used anytime a comment is posted.

If the bill becomes law, the website operator would have to pay if
someone was allowed to post anonymously on their site. The fine would be
five-hundred dollars for a first offense and one-thousand dollars for
each offense after that.

Representative Couch says he filed the bill in hopes of cutting down on
online bullying. He says that has especially been a problem in his
Eastern Kentucky district.

Action News 36 asked people what they thought about the bill.

Some said they felt it was a violation of First Amendment rights.
Others say it is a good tool toward eliminating online harassment.

Represntative Couch says enforcing this bill if it became law would be a
challenge.

[Penguin]

Up theirs.
Signed,
Mr. Karambalaw Hiramwanjani

[mentalgongfu2]

Representative Couch says he filed the bill in hopes of cutting down on
online bullying. He says that has especially been a problem in his
Eastern Kentucky district.

Whenever there is talk of passing laws "for sake of the children," our fascist alarm bells should be ringing off the hook.

Among the discouraging laws being debated in Iowa is a proposal to ban teenage drivers from having passengers in the car with them, you know, for safety. I'm to the point we're I can hardly follow the actions of the state legislature because it drives me insane. It seems the whole frickin planet is filled with authoritarian idiots.

BTW, Nice sig line, Mr. Hiramwanjani.

[StarmanSkye]

!!!?!

Well, MY fascist alarm bells sure are clanging ...

Gawd, what a stooopid twit and an even dumber bill.
Is this supposed to be a US-wide thang, or including international posters too?

How in HELL are websites supposed to 'check' whether a given name and address are legit, or current? I can see a whole 'nother level of 'security oversight' being introduced through this kinda stealth-legislation, like Internet ID Bonding companies who provide a pre-vetted authorizing service, fully licensed and insured, which Website managers will require all posters to be signed-up with; Perhaps, all web-posters will require proof of a personal indemnity $20,000 liability policy, to offset potential slander, bullying or verbal-assault damages?

I can hardly believe the 'cause' here is to prevent Eastern Kentucky online bullying. If all parties are anonymous, HOW can someone really be personally bullied? How is that different than trolling -- in which the best response is to simply ignore a boorish bufoon?

And the Iowa debate re: 'teenagers may not drive with passengers' idea inspired by 'safety'? Eh? Wouldn't that just ramp-up motivation for every teen to have their own wheels -- perhaps increasing teen car-use in some areas 10X? It would make far more sense to require all teen passengers/drivers to wear crash-helmets and cars equipped with side-and-front airbags, crash-resistant fuel cells, five-point restraint systems and full-cage rollbars -- tho sure to be unpopular and a very costly inconvenience, it WOULD improve crash survivability.

The internet bill sure would be a mock-clever gambit to discourage controversial and critical comments in a social climate of faux-patriotic hysteria provoked by fear-and-terror politicized suspicion and angst.

Lord, Save us from those who claim to have our best interests at heart and want to save us from ourselves.

[JackRiddler]

.
The District of Eastern Kentucky today issued subpoenas demanding the records of fourteen million websites and extradition orders for 320 million Internet users identified only as "John or Jane Doe" ...

A fascist and a moron.

[OP ED]

This reminds me of an NBC nightly story from last week about schoolbuses that have internet access. So the kids don't waste time idly riding when they could be learning.

And here I thought seat belts for buses would come first.

[orz]

''Enforcing this bill would be a challenge''

Haha understatement of the year.

Would be nice if people who don't have a clue what the Internet even is had nothing to do with making laws about it.

[norton ash]

Mr. Richard Cheney wrote:

I am going to EAT you. ALL of you.

[Penguin]

Im a big hairy troll and im gonna poop on all of you.
I bet they wouldnt recognize a troll if it shat on them.

If they start demanding authetication, well me and boys are gonna build a pirate radio web. With anonymous hosts and masked visitors. Things that go bump in the night.

[Hammer of Los]

It seems obvious to me that this is part of the ongoing moves to actually prosecute people for "thought crime." How can they prosecute people for their thoughts expressed via internet forums such as this, if said thoughts are posted anonymously?

It seems equally obvious to me that this is what all the brouhaha over internet "bullying," "stalking," "harassment" and "abuse" recently has really all been about.

Does anyone think they can really get away with all this?

I mean, combine this with HR 1955, the "Thought Crime Prevention Bill," (http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=14105) and you really do have a situation where some of us here could actually face criminal charges, and even if our merry selves are too small fry, I could certainly see these sorts of legislation being used to prosecute webmasters of 911 truth websites and other folk highly active on the internet disseminating information horribly inconvenient to conspirators in high places. Maybe even Jeff Wells.

What's that saying again, first they ignore you, then they attack you? I hope the last bit is true also, but I think it is becoming clear that the internet as a means of cutting through the lies of the mainstream propaganda machine is seen as a real threat which requires serious action. To be honest, I agree, it is a real threat. More and more people daily are becoming aware of the lies they are being sold. For a long time now, I have been wondering what "they" were going to do about it. I guess the answer to that is starting to come into focus.

[Penguin]

All previous means of mass communications have been centralized, controlled, top-down systems. Like from the invention of printing presses...

Internet changed all that. Now we are all nodes in the net - more or less equal, and data travels between peers, and is processed and discussed by peers on equal footing.

And communication is only possible between equals. Thats why they wanna shut us down, thats why they fear peer to peer sharing networks. Now data is free, and people peruse it for getting informed.

[stickdog99]

Why not just outlaw the crime of "online bullying"?

Handles don't bully people. People bully people.

[Eldritch]

Good point, Stickdog99. Such a good point, in fact, that it proves this isn't really about "online bullying" at all—unless by "online bullying" they mean the government bullying the people into submission.

Which is exactly what this is about.

[JackRiddler]

How much of a challenge would this be now?

[thrulookingglass]

The real foolishness here is thinking the US federal government (or your own local fascist state) DOESN'T know who you are when posting something! You want to find out how well, make a death threat or bomb scare (*DON'T do this).