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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby conniption » Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:33 am

Trump Campaign Legal Team Holds Press Conference in DC 11 19 20

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby Grizzly » Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:09 pm

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Sobering truth, sobering words right here.

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"The army will be helping with mass testing of entire towns and cities.."

Must presume they'll also be 'helping with isolation and quarantine'.

Shut up and take your untested nRNA jab citizen!
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:48 am

Hey Mario,

Just because VZ can't prevent its own elections from being manipulated by the CIA doesn't mean they can't single-handedly swing ours away from the rightful leader Trump.

In fact, its perfectly plausible if one only buys into what they're selling with the misguided belief that somehow a flaccid Dem president is worse than a president who openly encourages Nazis.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby conniption » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:29 pm

Words from one of my most favorite Russians (after Putin, of course.)

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Wednesday, November 11, 2020

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There are times in my career as a collapse observer and systematizer when my running commentary can quite reasonably be pared down to just two words: “Watch this!” The current severe stage of the financial and economic collapse sequence that was initiated in 2008, which is being artificially masked (no pun intended) by the fake Covid “pandemic,” and now a hung and fraudulent US election on top of it is just such an occasion: why not just sit back and watch the world burn? But I happen to be in a particularly good and sprightly mood today, and when I get that way few things can hold me back from holding forth and bloviating prophetically.

Let’s start with a quick jaunt down memory lane. I first realized that the USA was going to follow the general trajectory of the USSR back in 1995. I also immediately realized that the USSR was rather well prepared for collapse whereas the USA was about to be blindsided by it, and so, as a public service, I thought I should warn people. “And a fat lot of good that did!” some of you might immediately exclaim. But you would be wrong: lots of people have written to me to say how much better adjusted they are psychologically now that they have heard and accepted my message, for now they are ready to accept collapse with equanimity and poise. This is sure to make their company less tedious moving forward.

And so I had my “Eureka!” moment in 1995, and a decade later, in 2005, I went public with my observations. I got a surprisingly sympathetic response from some particularly enlightened people (even if they said so themselves). And now, a quarter of a century after my initial insight, as the US enters national bankruptcy and institutional collapse, the whole world is being treated to an end-of-empire spectacular election extravaganza starring none other than the consummate showman and impresario extraordinaire Donald Trump. He used to run beauty pageants, while this one is more of an ugliness pageant, but then beauty is rare and always fades while ugliness is commonplace and usually just gets uglier, making it a much safer bet. And so let’s accept it as a parting present to the world from a vanishing nation that gave us horror flicks, reality television and three-ring circuses with sideshow freaks.

Within the sweeping panoramic tableau of the 2020 election, Trump (our hero) appears bathed in a golden sunset glow of nostalgia for lost American greatness which he forever promises to rekindle. Rest assured, Trump or no Trump, America will never be great again. But Trump’s magic halo extends out from his resplendent orange cranial plumage and enfolds all those who pine for the lost Pax Americana and fear and loathe what America is fast becoming—which is, to put it bluntly, a holding tank for degenerates of every stripe presided over by a freak show. They pine for a time when men were manly and women womanly, when secretaries were flattered when their bosses took time away from their busy schedules to rub up against them, and when everyone was either a WASP, or worked hard on trying to look and act like one, or kept to their assigned station in life and knew better than to get too uppity. They want to believe that the ethnic melting pot can still produce noble alloys, preferably Corinthian bronze, and certainly not clinker or slag.

Arrayed against our fearless orange-hued leader, who at 74 is no spring chicken himself, is a ghoulish gaggle of geriatric gerontocrats. There is Joe Biden, 77, whose brain ran away and joined a circus some years ago but who imagines himself to be president-elect, or senator, or vice-president, or something. Having spent eight years lurking in the shadows as Obama’s VP, Biden is as fit to lead as a pig is kosher after rubbing its side against a corner of a synagogue. To assist Biden in his dodderings there is his party-appointed nanny, Kamala Harris, a mere slip of a girl at 56.

Also haunting the balcony of the American mausoleum is Nancy Pelosi, 80, who still runs the House of Representatives even though proper employment for her at this point would be up on a pole keeping the birds off the corn. There is also Bernie Sanders, 79, a sad pagliaccio whose permanent role in the political Commedia dell’Arte that the Democratic Party stages every four years is to simulate democracy by cheerleading crowds of young imbeciles in Act I, to feign death after falling off his pogo stick in Act II, and to stagger to his feet, wave and smile for the curtain call.

Last but not least, there is the horrid harpy Hillary Clinton, who is relatively young at 73 but whose putrid smell and cadaverous, ghastly visage are not longer fit for public display except in most delicately contrived circumstances. Hidden even further backstage is the suppurating cadaver of George Soros who, at 90, is still pulling the strings and wreaking havoc in the US and around the world. (His minions had recently spread color revolution to Armenia, in turn causing it to “elect” Pashinyan, a choice imbecile and a traitor, who then lost a big chunk of Armenian territory to Azerbaijan.) I could mention quite a few other financial corpses and oligarchic cadavers, but will refrain, to avoid giving you nightmares. Nobody lives forever, not even Henry Kissinger, 97, and so all we have to do is wait.

In healthy societies, older leaders age out and make room for younger leaders who take over for them after a lengthy period of study and apprenticeship. In sick societies, older leaders cling to power with no one competent there to replace them and once they die are replaced by traitors and criminals. The USSR and the USA are two such examples. The late Soviet serial gerontocracy of Brezhnev, Andropov and Chernenko, who for a time haunted the balcony of the Lenin mausoleum and, once dispatched to the netherworld, were swiftly replaced by the traitorous duo of blabbermouth Mikhail Gorbachëv and Drunk President Boris Yeltsin, was a tragedy for Russia. The resulting die-off was of the same order of magnitude as the losses incurred during World War II. In accordance with the worn-out cliché about history repeating, the current American gerontocracy is more of a farce than a tragedy, but its results are likely to be no less lethal for the population.

To complete this ghastly tableau, in the ongoing US presidential election, an almost-dead candidate and his charming assistant have been voted for by an army of the undead: voters that have mailed in their ballots in spite of being deceased. I have spot-checked a bit of the incriminating evidence myself, and I am pretty sure that there were over 11,000 such voters in a single Michigan county alone. But this is by no means a local scam: among many other vote-counting shenanigans, it appears that there was a nationwide effort to order mail-in ballots for dead people, fill them out for Biden, and mail them in. You might say that this is a human rights issue: why deprive dead people of their right to vote? Isn’t it about time to stop discriminating against the dead? Perhaps LGBTQ should be amended to LGBTQD for “Dead.” But why stop there? Why not also add a “U” for the unborn and stop this unpardonable discrimination against abortions?

In any case, dead voters for Biden turn out to be just the tip of an entire iceberg of election fraud. There are also the over 1.8 million nonexistent yet registered voters discovered by Judicial Watch back in September. Add to that the faulty voting system, creepily named “Dominion,” which miscounted votes to favor Biden. Add to that the undeservedly kid-gloved and fawning press coverage afforded to Biden and the US mass media’s overwhelmingly hostile attitude toward Trump. Add to that the fraudulent poll data which, just as prior to the 2016 election, was contrived to make a fraudulent Biden victory seem plausible. Add to that the amply funded organizations such as BLM and Antifa (in which the “Anti-” prefix is gratuitous, this organization in fact being very much “Fa…”) which have been ordered to protest, loot and riot in many major US cities, moving their mercenaries from location to location, where they then recruit useful idiots among the locals. What this adds up to is a vast, brazen, carelessly self-incriminating conspiracy to overthrow a sitting president through election fraud.

If you believe even for a moment that I am scandalized, disgusted and outraged by this trampling of the sacred principles of democracy, then pardon me while I shake my head sardonically while quietly chuckling to myself. No, I am not the least bit upset. In fact, this development fills me with optimism for the future. I believe that this ghastly institutional failure is a wonderful development that offers great hope to the rest of the world, and perhaps even to the US itself, although the political environment in the US appears to be rather hopeless irrespective of how horribly or wonderfully its ridiculous electoral system can be made to function.

In any case, it would be futile to try to give the US some semblance of a democratic election system. It would be like trying to clean up a beach by picking up empty beer cans around a beached whale. The presidency, after four years of ham-handed efforts to unseat a president using false evidence, is a failed institution. Congress, which now nonchalantly overspends federal revenue by a factor of three, is a fiscal zombie. The Federal Reserve, which is now a pure pyramid scheme, is a financial zombie. And then there is the rest of the ridiculously bloated US economy, which is waiting for a stiff gust of wind to cause ephemeral wealth to flood out of stocks and bonds and into cash, much of it evaporating in the process and the rest causing a tsunami of consumer price inflation.

In the course of this spectacle, the false image of the US as a shining city on a hill, a beacon for huddled masses yearning to breathe free and a beneficent global policeman safeguarding “universal human rights,” enforcing “universal human values” and spreading “freedom and democracy” around the world is being stomped into the dirt, having excrement poured all over it, and being stomped into the dirt some more. As the curtain descends on this final act of Pax Americana, the image of the orange enfant terrible and the senile puppet with his child-nurse in tow playing on the teeter-totter of electoral dysfunction on the playground of second childhood will forever remain etched into the retinas of the whole world. The whole world will then be able to move on and look for worthier role models and for less corrupt policemen. And that’s progress!

The collapse of the USA will make the collapse of the USSR look like a stroll through a leafy park and a boat ride on a placid pond. I’ve been saying this for 15 years now. My message is still there, for all those who wish to understand what’s been happening and to keep their sanity.

https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2020/11/watch-this.html
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby DrEvil » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:42 am

conniption » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:29 am wrote:Words from one of my most favorite Russians (after Putin, of course.)

club orlov

Wednesday, November 11, 2020

“Watch this!”
Dmitry Orlov

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There are times in my career as a collapse observer and systematizer when my running commentary can quite reasonably be pared down to just two words: “Watch this!” The current severe stage of the financial and economic collapse sequence that was initiated in 2008, which is being artificially masked (no pun intended) by the fake Covid “pandemic,” and now a hung and fraudulent US election on top of it is just such an occasion: why not just sit back and watch the world burn? But I happen to be in a particularly good and sprightly mood today, and when I get that way few things can hold me back from holding forth and bloviating prophetically.

Let’s start with a quick jaunt down memory lane. I first realized that the USA was going to follow the general trajectory of the USSR back in 1995. I also immediately realized that the USSR was rather well prepared for collapse whereas the USA was about to be blindsided by it, and so, as a public service, I thought I should warn people. “And a fat lot of good that did!” some of you might immediately exclaim. But you would be wrong: lots of people have written to me to say how much better adjusted they are psychologically now that they have heard and accepted my message, for now they are ready to accept collapse with equanimity and poise. This is sure to make their company less tedious moving forward.

And so I had my “Eureka!” moment in 1995, and a decade later, in 2005, I went public with my observations. I got a surprisingly sympathetic response from some particularly enlightened people (even if they said so themselves). And now, a quarter of a century after my initial insight, as the US enters national bankruptcy and institutional collapse, the whole world is being treated to an end-of-empire spectacular election extravaganza starring none other than the consummate showman and impresario extraordinaire Donald Trump. He used to run beauty pageants, while this one is more of an ugliness pageant, but then beauty is rare and always fades while ugliness is commonplace and usually just gets uglier, making it a much safer bet. And so let’s accept it as a parting present to the world from a vanishing nation that gave us horror flicks, reality television and three-ring circuses with sideshow freaks.

Within the sweeping panoramic tableau of the 2020 election, Trump (our hero) appears bathed in a golden sunset glow of nostalgia for lost American greatness which he forever promises to rekindle. Rest assured, Trump or no Trump, America will never be great again. But Trump’s magic halo extends out from his resplendent orange cranial plumage and enfolds all those who pine for the lost Pax Americana and fear and loathe what America is fast becoming—which is, to put it bluntly, a holding tank for degenerates of every stripe presided over by a freak show. They pine for a time when men were manly and women womanly, when secretaries were flattered when their bosses took time away from their busy schedules to rub up against them, and when everyone was either a WASP, or worked hard on trying to look and act like one, or kept to their assigned station in life and knew better than to get too uppity. They want to believe that the ethnic melting pot can still produce noble alloys, preferably Corinthian bronze, and certainly not clinker or slag.

Arrayed against our fearless orange-hued leader, who at 74 is no spring chicken himself, is a ghoulish gaggle of geriatric gerontocrats. There is Joe Biden, 77, whose brain ran away and joined a circus some years ago but who imagines himself to be president-elect, or senator, or vice-president, or something. Having spent eight years lurking in the shadows as Obama’s VP, Biden is as fit to lead as a pig is kosher after rubbing its side against a corner of a synagogue. To assist Biden in his dodderings there is his party-appointed nanny, Kamala Harris, a mere slip of a girl at 56.

Also haunting the balcony of the American mausoleum is Nancy Pelosi, 80, who still runs the House of Representatives even though proper employment for her at this point would be up on a pole keeping the birds off the corn. There is also Bernie Sanders, 79, a sad pagliaccio whose permanent role in the political Commedia dell’Arte that the Democratic Party stages every four years is to simulate democracy by cheerleading crowds of young imbeciles in Act I, to feign death after falling off his pogo stick in Act II, and to stagger to his feet, wave and smile for the curtain call.

Last but not least, there is the horrid harpy Hillary Clinton, who is relatively young at 73 but whose putrid smell and cadaverous, ghastly visage are not longer fit for public display except in most delicately contrived circumstances. Hidden even further backstage is the suppurating cadaver of George Soros who, at 90, is still pulling the strings and wreaking havoc in the US and around the world. (His minions had recently spread color revolution to Armenia, in turn causing it to “elect” Pashinyan, a choice imbecile and a traitor, who then lost a big chunk of Armenian territory to Azerbaijan.) I could mention quite a few other financial corpses and oligarchic cadavers, but will refrain, to avoid giving you nightmares. Nobody lives forever, not even Henry Kissinger, 97, and so all we have to do is wait.

In healthy societies, older leaders age out and make room for younger leaders who take over for them after a lengthy period of study and apprenticeship. In sick societies, older leaders cling to power with no one competent there to replace them and once they die are replaced by traitors and criminals. The USSR and the USA are two such examples. The late Soviet serial gerontocracy of Brezhnev, Andropov and Chernenko, who for a time haunted the balcony of the Lenin mausoleum and, once dispatched to the netherworld, were swiftly replaced by the traitorous duo of blabbermouth Mikhail Gorbachëv and Drunk President Boris Yeltsin, was a tragedy for Russia. The resulting die-off was of the same order of magnitude as the losses incurred during World War II. In accordance with the worn-out cliché about history repeating, the current American gerontocracy is more of a farce than a tragedy, but its results are likely to be no less lethal for the population.

To complete this ghastly tableau, in the ongoing US presidential election, an almost-dead candidate and his charming assistant have been voted for by an army of the undead: voters that have mailed in their ballots in spite of being deceased. I have spot-checked a bit of the incriminating evidence myself, and I am pretty sure that there were over 11,000 such voters in a single Michigan county alone. But this is by no means a local scam: among many other vote-counting shenanigans, it appears that there was a nationwide effort to order mail-in ballots for dead people, fill them out for Biden, and mail them in. You might say that this is a human rights issue: why deprive dead people of their right to vote? Isn’t it about time to stop discriminating against the dead? Perhaps LGBTQ should be amended to LGBTQD for “Dead.” But why stop there? Why not also add a “U” for the unborn and stop this unpardonable discrimination against abortions?

In any case, dead voters for Biden turn out to be just the tip of an entire iceberg of election fraud. There are also the over 1.8 million nonexistent yet registered voters discovered by Judicial Watch back in September. Add to that the faulty voting system, creepily named “Dominion,” which miscounted votes to favor Biden. Add to that the undeservedly kid-gloved and fawning press coverage afforded to Biden and the US mass media’s overwhelmingly hostile attitude toward Trump. Add to that the fraudulent poll data which, just as prior to the 2016 election, was contrived to make a fraudulent Biden victory seem plausible. Add to that the amply funded organizations such as BLM and Antifa (in which the “Anti-” prefix is gratuitous, this organization in fact being very much “Fa…”) which have been ordered to protest, loot and riot in many major US cities, moving their mercenaries from location to location, where they then recruit useful idiots among the locals. What this adds up to is a vast, brazen, carelessly self-incriminating conspiracy to overthrow a sitting president through election fraud.

If you believe even for a moment that I am scandalized, disgusted and outraged by this trampling of the sacred principles of democracy, then pardon me while I shake my head sardonically while quietly chuckling to myself. No, I am not the least bit upset. In fact, this development fills me with optimism for the future. I believe that this ghastly institutional failure is a wonderful development that offers great hope to the rest of the world, and perhaps even to the US itself, although the political environment in the US appears to be rather hopeless irrespective of how horribly or wonderfully its ridiculous electoral system can be made to function.

In any case, it would be futile to try to give the US some semblance of a democratic election system. It would be like trying to clean up a beach by picking up empty beer cans around a beached whale. The presidency, after four years of ham-handed efforts to unseat a president using false evidence, is a failed institution. Congress, which now nonchalantly overspends federal revenue by a factor of three, is a fiscal zombie. The Federal Reserve, which is now a pure pyramid scheme, is a financial zombie. And then there is the rest of the ridiculously bloated US economy, which is waiting for a stiff gust of wind to cause ephemeral wealth to flood out of stocks and bonds and into cash, much of it evaporating in the process and the rest causing a tsunami of consumer price inflation.

In the course of this spectacle, the false image of the US as a shining city on a hill, a beacon for huddled masses yearning to breathe free and a beneficent global policeman safeguarding “universal human rights,” enforcing “universal human values” and spreading “freedom and democracy” around the world is being stomped into the dirt, having excrement poured all over it, and being stomped into the dirt some more. As the curtain descends on this final act of Pax Americana, the image of the orange enfant terrible and the senile puppet with his child-nurse in tow playing on the teeter-totter of electoral dysfunction on the playground of second childhood will forever remain etched into the retinas of the whole world. The whole world will then be able to move on and look for worthier role models and for less corrupt policemen. And that’s progress!

The collapse of the USA will make the collapse of the USSR look like a stroll through a leafy park and a boat ride on a placid pond. I’ve been saying this for 15 years now. My message is still there, for all those who wish to understand what’s been happening and to keep their sanity.

https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2020/11/watch-this.html


He would be more convincing if he wasn't swallowing the far-right lies hook, line and sinker (and so would you tbh).

11000 dead voters in Michigan:
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54874120

1.8 million dead voters (Judicial Watch, ffs!):
https://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/trump ... ud-claims/

Then there's the usual "the Jewish billionaire is pulling all the strings!" horseshit (really, why is it always fucking Soros, and not the Koch's or Mercer or any number of other far-right shitheads), and "Antifa is an organization!", which it still isn't. And of course BLM are just paid stormtroopers for some nebulous (probably Jewish!) forces trying to destroy America.

The bad guys aren't the openly fascist politicians or the trigger-happy cops, oh no! It's those dastardly people out protesting against them!
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:57 am

DrEvil » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:42 am wrote:He would be more convincing if he wasn't swallowing the far-right lies hook, line and sinker (and so would you tbh).

11000 dead voters in Michigan:
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54874120

1.8 million dead voters (Judicial Watch, ffs!):
https://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/trump ... ud-claims/

Then there's the usual "the Jewish billionaire is pulling all the strings!" horseshit (really, why is it always fucking Soros, and not the Koch's or Mercer or any number of other far-right shitheads), and "Antifa is an organization!", which it still isn't. And of course BLM are just paid stormtroopers for some nebulous (probably Jewish!) forces trying to destroy America.

The bad guys aren't the openly fascist politicians or the trigger-happy cops, oh no! It's those dastardly people out protesting against them!


Swallowing? Clearly he's an enabler and a distributor.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby DrEvil » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:32 pm

^^True. The whole piece is just a litany of MAGA/FOX/OAN talking points with some extra snark.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby dada » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:59 pm

It's always disappointing when you see a Russian who has lost the ability to be ironic. Irony delivered with a sarcastic tone is ersatz irony, of the type that American culture has been drowning in for thirty years. Since the fall of the Berlin wall.

It has gotten to the point where an utterance without any ironic content can be considered irony as long as it has the sarcastic inflection.

Ersatz irony, robbed of its flavor. A real, patriotic Russian does not announce irony, but allows it to speak for itself. A true irony - Russian irony - doesn't look like irony on the surface, but is there for any intelligent person to see.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby Marionumber1 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:24 am

That's the problem with these snarky articles about pro-Biden fraud and/or a purported coup effort against Trump: snark only works when your underlying analysis is actually valid and incisive. Otherwise it's just insufferably smug.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:27 am

DrEvil » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:32 pm wrote:^^True. The whole piece is just a litany of MAGA/FOX/OAN talking points with some extra snark.


Plus the cachet of oooh, he's a Russian intellectual who's been through this all before. If I go back and read Orlov's old stuff I found interesting, back when he was writing about Russian matters he actually knows, how much will I have to reassess?

There's currently about 80 (or 800!) times more talk about the losing motherfucker's fantasy (which he doesn't believe but delvers for his base to buy), that his true share of the vote is a maltreated, miscounted, hidden majority, than there is talk about the extensive, brutal, multilevel vote suppression measures, new state machine (and Jim Crow) politics, and total gerrymandering of recent decades. And about 8,000 times more talk about that than about the actual stubborn organizing that delivered the election to this other motherfucker, much of it done by the drudges of the grassroots left who rightly started out rejecting Biden and now predictably get abused for their efforts from the Democratic right-wing.

Also, the demographic shifts. Total Latino vote went up by like 60 percent! Huge diference in providing vote margins favoring the D's, but the story's been spun for the Republicans, since the proportions within the overall Latino vote shifted 3 percent towards Trump. (And most of the difference in proportion was attributable to gusanos.) So a group of 100 became 160, but the score within that went from 66-34 to 102-58, meaning the absolute margin for the majority within that group rose as its relative proportions dropped a fraction.

Anyways, we'll all carry on.

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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby DrEvil » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:44 am

I don't really have a problem with Orlov's collapse theories, because I'm having a hard time seeing how the US can shift towards something like a normal country without serious upheaval. If he stuck to that I would be much more interested in what he has to say, but the parroting of obviously false right-wing memes makes it really hard to take him seriously.

It will be interesting to see if Biden launches any catastrophic military adventures, as that is the last checkpoint on Orlov's list of prerequisites. While we're waiting I recommend 'Twilight's Last Gleaming' by John Michael Greer (the Archdruid report guy) for a good fictional take on how it could happen.
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The final Trump surprises?

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:10 pm

Watch for Trump to start Biden's catastrophic military interventions for him, possibly at the instigation of Bibi and MbS. There's a precedent for that.

They floated the idea of pardoning Trump!

They will likely back down on Rahm Emanuel and present this as a huge victory for the left, they got something so STFU.

Unless the NY cases take him down, Trump may play the president-in-exile with a show on OAN (which make become TOAN or OATN). This would serve both to lock in his core support and make some crazy, while decaying it around the edges.

How long is the presumed drug treatment going to sustain Biden?
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Re: US PreOf course it matterssidential Election 2020

Postby Harvey » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:45 pm

Marionumber1 » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:30 pm wrote:I also do have to agree with Elvis that voting, while not a substitute for other types of action, is still more worth doing than disengaging in.


As I said, *structured disengagement*. If you want leverage, at this stage you have little to none, how do you get it? What I'm suggesting is a way to do that, to have leverage.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby dada » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:14 pm

I kind of figured that Donald is just getting his next media venture ducks in a row. Then when he makes the non-concession in a few weeks, it will also be his announcement of whatever it is.

Like, "dead voters, fixed election, fake news, blah blah blah. I didn't lose, but the CIA has it in for me. If you want the truth, tune in to DTV, we're going to set the record straight.

I want my DTV. Money for nothing.

But I want that Max Headroom should be president again. He'd have a much faster engine this time.
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Re: US Presidential Election 2020

Postby dada » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:44 pm

It won't be DTV of course, that's Disney. But you get the idea.
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