Feds push for tracking cell phones

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Re: Feds push for tracking cell phones

Postby justdrew » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:28 am

yeah, that was the family I was thinking of, 2007 is when that was a big story. I wonder whatever's become of that? somewhat updated info:
http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=9346833&ClientType=Printable

I suppose maybe you could get the software and preemptively tap your own phone, most likely only one such app could be active at a time.
By 1964 there were 1.5 million mobile phone users in the US
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Re: Feds push for tracking cell phones

Postby stefano » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:25 am

Thanks, all.

justdrew wrote:eventually and in short order it may be illegal to not have a cell phone?


On 31st July 2007, in Brandenburg and Berlin, Germany, the flats and workplaces of Dr. Andrej Holm and Dr. Matthias B., as well as of two other persons, were searched by the police. All four were charged with "membership of a terrorist association" and are alleged to be members of a so-called 'militante gruppe' (mg):

According to the arrest warrant against Andrej Holm, the charge against the four individuals was justified on the following grounds:

• Dr. Matthias B. is alleged to have used, in his academic publications, "phrases and key words" which are also used by the 'militante gruppe';

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• The fact that he - allegedly intentionally - did not take his mobile phone with him to a meeting is considered as "conspiratorial behavior".

On 11th November 2008, 150 French anti-terrorist police officers swooped on the 330-inhabitant village of Tarnac to arrest four men and five women aged 22 to 34, since nicknamed the 'Tarnac Nine'. These 'brilliant students' were living in a farm and ran a grocery store. All but one have been released. They were accused of "criminal association connected to a terrorist enterprise". French Interior Minister Michèle Alliot-Marie (MAM) was in the news soon after:

The Interior Minister is convinced of having saved France by nipping a revolution in the bud. For MAM, the defendants are the seed of Action Directe.

"They have adopted the method of clandestinity. They never use a mobile phone. They managed to have, in the village of Tarnac, friendly relations with people who could warn them of the presence of strangers," said the minister.
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Re: Feds push for tracking cell phones

Postby Sounder » Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:36 am

Back in my university days, one time as I was walking home early in the morning, the police stopped to check up on me. It seemed reasonable because my path came near to the power station for campus. When word came back from dispatch I casually stuck my head into the window of the cop car and I heard dispatch say; ‘oh he’s alright, he walks this route regularly’. So I thinks, wow, these cops have connected my face with my name without ever having a known contact with me.

We may do well to consider and/or live as if our lives are an open book. Frankly, I think we are no more than an unpaid thinktank for the government.

One odd thing about all this is that thirty years later, dispatchers still seem to say the same thing, as evidenced by my ridiculous good fortune with cops. Uh oh, maybe I’m a very deep undercover agent.
All these things will continue as long as coercion remains a central element of our mentality.
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Re: Feds push for tracking cell phones

Postby chump » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:05 pm

Newsweek article about cell phone surveillance; the latest fad in law enforcement.

The Snitch in Your Pocket

The Justice Department doesn't keep statistics on requests for cell-phone data, according to the spokeswoman. So it's hard to gauge just how often these records are retrieved. But Al Gidari, a telecommunications lawyer who represents several wireless providers, tells NEWSWEEK that the companies are now getting "thousands of these requests per month," and the amount has grown "exponentially" over the past few years. Sprint Nextel has even set up a dedicated Web site so that law-enforcement agents can access the records from their desks—a fact divulged by the company's "manager of electronic surveillance" at a private Washington security conference last October. "The tool has just really caught on fire with law enforcement," said the Sprint executive, according to a tape made by a privacy activist who sneaked into the event. (A Sprint spokesman acknowledged the company has created the Web "portal" but says that law-enforcement agents must be "authenticated" before they are given passwords to log on, and even then still must provide valid court orders for all nonemergency requests.)
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Re: Feds push for tracking cell phones

Postby Howling Rainbows » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:12 pm

A company I worked for had a Sprint Web Portal. The company issued cell phones to all employees. The company paid Sprint a small fee per month for cell phone tracking.

The owner of the company told me that if the manager of one of his businesses wasn't in the office I should use to web portal to track his whereabouts because the manager had a bad habit of sneaking off from work for personal business.

I played with that web portal a couple of times. I was stunned at how easy a cell phone could be tracked. All I had to do was enter a cell number, click a button, and I could instantly see that cell phone on a detailed city map.

After that experience I gave my cell phone back to the owner and told him I didn't want it anymore.
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Re: Feds push for tracking cell phones

Postby chump » Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:35 pm

Here's a new twist.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/oct/1 ... bilephones

How mobile phones let spies see our every move

Government's secret Celldar project will allow surveillance of anyone, at any time and anywhere there is a phone signal

(Guardian) – Government’s secret Celldar project will allow surveillance of anyone, at any time and anywhere there is a phone signal
Secret radar technology research that will allow the biggest-ever extension of ‘Big Brother’-style surveillance in the UK is being funded by the Government.

The radical new system, which has outraged civil liberties groups, uses mobile phone masts to allow security authorities to watch vehicles and individuals ‘in real time’ almost anywhere in Britain.

The technology ’sees’ the shapes made when radio waves emitted by mobile phone masts meet an obstruction. Signals bounced back by immobile objects, such as walls or trees, are filtered out by the receiver. This allows anything moving, such as cars or people, to be tracked. Previously, radar needed massive fixed equipment to work and transmissions from mobile phone masts were thought too weak to be useful.

The system works wherever a mobile phone can pick up a signal. By using receivers attached to mobile phone masts, users of the new technology could focus in on areas hundreds of miles away and bring up a display showing any moving vehicles and people.

An individual with one type of receiver, a portable unit little bigger than a laptop computer, could even use it as a ‘personal radar’ covering the area around the user. Researchers are working to give the new equipment ‘X-ray vision’ – the capability to ’see’ through walls and look into people’s homes.

Ministry of Defence officials are hoping to introduce the system as soon as resources allow. Police and security services are known to be interested in a variety of possible surveillance applications. The researchers themselves say the system, known as Celldar, is aimed at anti-terrorism defence, security and road traffic management.

However civil liberties groups have been swift to condemn the plan.

‘It’s an appalling idea,’ said Simon Davies, director of Privacy International. ‘The Government is just capitalising on current public fears over security to intoduce new systems that are neither desirable nor necessary.’

The system, used alongside technology which allows individuals to be identified by their mobile phone handsets, will mewan that individuals can be located and their movements watched on a screen from hundreds of miles away.

Prototypes have been effective over 50 to 100 metres but the developers are confident that range can be extended.

After a series of meetings with Roke Manor, a private research company in Romsey, Hants, MoD officials have started funding the multi-million pound project. Reports of the meetings are ‘classified’.

Whitehall officials involved in radar confirmed that the MoD was ‘very interested’ last week. ‘It’s all about resources now,’ said one.

Private security specialists have also welcomed the new technology.

‘It will be enormously useful,’ the director of one private security firm said. ‘Instead of setting up expensive and cumbersome surveillance equipment, police or the security services could start work quickly and easily almost anywhere.

‘For tracking a suspect, preventing a potential crime or a terrorist strike or simply locating people [the system] has enormous advantages.’

It is likely that the technology would be used at first to protect sensitive installations such as ports and airfields.

The perimeter of a nuclear power station or an RAF base could be watched without having a bank of CCTV screens and dozens of expensive cameras.

If the radar picked up movement then a single camera could be focused on a specific area.

Celldar could also monitor roads when poor visibility due to bad weather rendered cameras useless.

‘The equipment could pick up traffic flows towards an accident site and the details of a crash; who is where and so on,’ said Peter Lloyd of Roke Manor.

Lloyd also outlined a number of military applications for the technology. Individual armoured vehicles or even soldiers could carry the detectors which could tell them where enemy troops were.

Security specialists point out how useful personal radars would be in siege situations. However there are significant concerns that the technology might be abused by authorities or fall into the wrong hands.

‘Like all instrusive surveillance, we need to be sure that it is properly regulated, preferably by the judiciary,’ said Roger Bingham of Liberty.

Bingham expressed concerns that the new equipment, which would be virtually undetectable, could be used by private detectives or others for personal or commercial gain.

Modern technology has brought massive opportunities for wider surveillance. Since the 11 September terrorist attacks on Washington and New York, the government has been pushing through a package of anti-terrorism legislation which targets electronic communications.

Senior police officers are now allowed to access mobile telephone and email records without judicial or executive assent. Within two years, all mobile phones are expected to have satellite-locating devices built into them.

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Re: Feds push for tracking cell phones

Postby Penguin » Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:25 am

Hey, Batman had that first!
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Re: Feds push for tracking cell phones

Postby Seamus OBlimey » Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:40 pm

I dunno.. My company's paying £10 per vehicle per week for this. If they could do all that via the company phone then how do they justify the expense?

Because we could turn the phone off?

Btw my company is the .gov
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Re: Feds push for tracking cell phones

Postby conniption » Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:19 am

off-guardian

Cell Phones: The Elephant in the Room

Edward Curtin
Jun 13, 2021


It is difficult to talk to addicts about addictions and it is even harder to do so when their embrace of the drug of choice has dire consequences.

I once asked the ether if God had a cell phone, and although God didn’t reply, it was a rhetorical question, so I didn’t expect an answer since I knew God understood grammar and punctuation and had other ways of communicating.

The elites who consider themselves gods, such as those at the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organization, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Google, and their ilk throughout governments, corporations, media, etc., know that cell phones are fundamental to their plan for a fully digitized world. They have promoted them for decades.

Without cell phones their plan can’t work, a plan whose end is a trans-human world where AI, cyborgs, technology, and biology are melded for their authoritarian control.

Their non-vaccine “vaccines” are also necessary. Penetrating cells of both sorts are means to their ends and the stories we are told are meant to infect our minds with a sick way of thinking that will allow them to exert more and more control.

Most people have fallen for their PR. It’s called the-easy-life. The stay-in-touch life. The never-be-out-of-touch-life. The you’ll-be-lost-without-it-life. The smart life. The free life.

In reality it is a prisoner’s life. The miracle of the cell phone, the mystery of a virus and its “antidote,” and the authority of authoritarians are being used to try to quell the spirit of rebellion we were all born with – the promise of freedom. Mystery, miracle, and authority – “vaccines” against freedom.

Like the Grand Inquisitor in Dostoevsky’s legend, these sick elites are relying on the assumption that “man is tormented by no greater anxiety than to find some one quickly to whom he can hand over that gift of freedom with which the ill-fated creature is born.”

They may be in store for a big surprise. People are starting to wake up to an attack on their fundamental freedoms.

Like the non-vaccine vaccines that they are promoting to exert more control with their plan to digitize existence with the Great Reset, those who presently control so much of the world they own, know that cell phones are moving shackles. And they know they have created billions of addicts who can’t help themselves.

So much of the world has been hoodwinked into a trap, a prison. It’s been a slow process that is approaching a climax.

There are no cells in cell phones, but their towers are arranged to form cells with each having a central tower in its geographical zone that keep users prisoners, as with the round Panopticon prisons with their central guard tower. Cells in heads, heads in cells, cells everywhere. The USA also has more prisoners in cells than any country in the world.

There are Towers of Babel all across the land, listening, watching, recording, as the prisoners gleefully scroll their black magic machines that have corralled their freedom. Machines that are likely ruining their health as well, but that is not my main focus here.

Unlike the nearly 2 million people in American jails, cell phone prisoners can roam, for their cells are mobile. That is their key. “Smart” phones for gullible people, or androids – “a mobile robot usually with human form” – are necessary, for they allow the authorities to follow and track your every move while you think you are skipping down easy street while carrying the equivalent of a GPS ankle monitor like digital jail prisoners. In this case, it is voluntary incarceration. And there is far more to it than having your location tracked.

Perhaps it is unfair to say that people’s embrace of cell phones are acts of freely giving up their freedoms, for the propagandists’ work has long softened up many minds to the idea of salvation through technology. Like the technology of pharmaceutical drugs run by criminal Big Pharma, users of cell phones have been induced to consider convenience over conscience and the quick “fix” over slow deliberation.

Yes, you can message your friends and even call them, but your enemies have your number now. And when they ask you for your papers, your freedom vaccines, all you need to do is flash that screen in your hand. After getting shot first. To paraphrase Kris Kristofferson: Freedom’s just another word for everything left to lose. But few are counting.

“What we got here is a failure to communicate,” says the Captain to the prisoner Luke in the classic movie Cool Hand Luke. “Some men you just can’t reach…which is the way he wants it.”

I’m afraid that’s how it is with owners of cell phones. It’s very hard to admit you have been had. People want their cell phones but don’t want to hear that they are the phone’s prisoners. But to say phone is too abstract. Phones can’t imprison and manipulate you. Only people can. The truth is hard to swallow. The cell phone is the key, and most people are in the cell without a key or clue. They have it and it has them.

But then aren’t cells inside us? I’ve heard it said that spike proteins teach cells to make a protein that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. But how do the cells get inside our bodies. I thought they were hand held. You see I am getting confused, for this kind of language is beyond my ken. I’m still trying to figure out how my computer can get a virus. Everything’s gone viral. Cells, viruses – what’s next?

I’m one of those idiots who still thinks Cat Scans are used to see if you like cats. Well I don’t know if that’s all true, ‘cause it’s got me, and baby, it’s got you. Sonny and Cher sung those words more than fifty years ago. Words stick. Ideas stick. Thinking and behaving in certain ways become habits. Linguistic mind control needs repetition – words like cells and viruses.

The medium is the message and the messenger is the m in the mRNA experimental non-vaccine vaccines. It’s so simple; all you need to do is get the message and get your experimental shot and wait for the consequences, just as with cell phones. Don’t worry about the price to be paid in health or freedom. Those are incidentals. Let the operating systems do their invisible work.

The way the story is framed controls the story. As with cell phones and vaccines, most people do not see Donald Trump as a pseudo-event. A pseudo-event being, as described by Daniel Boorstin in his classic book, The Image: A Guide to Pseudo- Events in America, a planned, dramatic, costly invention of a counterfeit story that is repeated and planned for its intelligibility and ability to capture the public’s attention since it conforms to stereotypes.

In this case, Trump as a big-mouthed, uncouth bad guy who just happened to become the American President. Like I happen to be a man. Like you just happen to be reading this. Just happenings. Trump in the role of the ignorant outsider who can be played off against the smart insider even when the fundamentals of the system that supports them barely change an iota while the bad guy runs the show. Straight from the Tube to the Tube as part of the Spectacle. Obama and Biden’s anti-doppelganger.

The story is told in a manner that the obvious is missed: That Trump was never an outsider. He was one of the establishment’s performers from the start. A perfect foil from the Tube for apprentices learning about reality. You know, like the CDC says:“MRNA vaccines teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies.” Very simple, teacher. I see it now.

Are you immune to Trump? Biden? They are not the disease. They are its symptoms. They are twin heads of the Hydra. Now Trump has been “fired” with Biden’s turn to come. Cut them off and the monster will grow more heads unless by miracle a true leader arises with the courage of JFK or RFK. One who can avoid their assassins.

In January of 2021, the outsider Trump while still president, the anti-vaccine guy, the anti-Fauci guy, the anti-everything that’s good guy, the anti-science guy, the anti-China Wuhan lab Chinese virus guy, quietly got his Pfizer BioNTech vaccine, the same one Biden got. He didn’t announce it, but said:

We took care of a lot of people — including, I guess … Joe Biden, because he got his shot, he got his vaccine. It shows you how unpainful that vaccine shot is … So everybody, go get your shot.


Of course Trump was the guy who fast-tracked the experimental vaccines through a program called Operation Warp Speed that funneled billions of dollars to vaccine manufacturers through a non-governmental third party, a defense contract management firm called Advanced Technologies International, Inc. This avoided much public disclosure.

I say all this about Trump to make a rather simple point about cell phones and how the obvious is staring us in the face if we choose to see it. Trump and cell phones should have long been obvious. Yes, cell phones are convenient, but that is a minor part of the story. They are very dangerous for our freedoms and health. Yes, it is very convenient to see Trump as the bad guy but much harder to see the larger story in which Trump is a chosen player on the large chessboard created by the interconnected power elites. But Trump and the cell phone serve their functions. They didn’t just happen.

To abandon your cell phone or to abandon the false narrative that Trump is an outlier is very difficult. But these are difficult times.

Can you see the elephant in the room? Join with those like Robert Kennedy, Jr. and other lovers of truth and freedom and fight back now. Everyone must seize their freedom now before it is too late. Cast fear aside; it is another of their key tools. Hope lies in group actions.

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Edward Curtin is an independent writer whose work has appeared widely over many years. His website is edwardcurtin.com and his new book is Seeking Truth in a Country of Lies.

https://off-guardian.org/2021/06/13/cel ... -the-room/

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Are You Lost in the World Like Me? (Animated Short Film by Steve Cutts)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15nR7nhFRZE

Anthony Casella
• Aug 31, 2017 •

I did not create this, I'm just passing on art to you I feel should be recognized. This is a telling of the times by my favorite modern day animator Steve Cutts. In a Max Fleischer style character walks through the world of distracted digital zombies.
Artist links below
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpQL...
http://www.stevecutts.com/
https://vimeo.com/user4630714


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Project Censored

4. How Big Wireless Convinced Us Cell Phones and Wi-Fi are Safe
October 2, 2018

A Kaiser Permanente study (published December 2017 in Scientific Reports) conducted controlled research testing on hundreds of pregnant women in the San Francisco Bay area and found that those who had been exposed to magnetic field (MF) non-ionizing radiation associated with cell phones and wireless devices had 2.72 times more risk of miscarriage than those with lower MF exposure. Furthermore, the study reported that the association was “much stronger” when MF was measured “on a typical day of participants’ pregnancies.” According to lead investigator De-Kun Li, the possible effects of MF exposure have been controversial because, “from a public health point of view, everybody is exposed. If there is any health effect, the potential impact is huge.” [For previous Project Censored coverage of this topic, see Julian Klein and Casey Lewis, with Kenn Burrows and Peter Phillips, “Accumulating Evidence of Ongoing Wireless Technology Health Hazards,” in Censored 2015: Inspiring We the People.]

A March 2018 investigation for the Nation by Mark Hertsgaard and Mark Dowie showed how the scope of this public health issue has been inadequately reported by the press and underappreciated by the public. Hertsgaard and Dowie reported that the telecom industry has employed public relations tactics, first pioneered by Big Tobacco in the 1960s and developed by fossil-fuel companies in the 1980s, to influence both the public’s understanding of wireless technologies and regulatory debates.

The wireless industry has “war-gamed” science by playing offense as well as defense, actively sponsoring studies that result in published findings supportive of the industry while aiming to discredit competing research that raises questions about the safety of cellular devices and other wireless technologies. [On “war-gaming,” see, for example, a 1994 Motorola memo, now published online.] When studies have linked wireless radiation to cancer or genetic damage, industry spokespeople have pointed out that the findings are disputed by other researchers. This strategy has proven effective, Hertsgaard and Dowie reported, because “the apparent lack of certainty helps to reassure customers, even as it fends off government regulations and lawsuits that might pinch profits.” As Hertsgaard and Dowie concluded,

Lack of definitive proof that a technology is harmful does not mean the technology is safe, yet the wireless industry has succeeded in selling this logical fallacy to the world . . . The upshot is that, over the past 30 years, billions of people around the world have been subjected to a massive public-health experiment: Use a cell phone today, find out later if it causes cancer or genetic damage. Meanwhile, the wireless industry has obstructed a full and fair understanding of the current science, aided by government agencies that have prioritized commercial interests over human health and news organizations that have failed to inform the public about what the scientific community really thinks. In other words, this public-health experiment has been conducted without the informed consent of its subjects, even as the industry keeps its thumb on the scale.

The stakes of this public-health experiment continue to rise with the increasing prevalence of Wi-Fi and Bluetooth technologies as well as the development of the “Internet of Things” and anticipated 5G wireless networks.

Multiple studies, including one published in the American Journal of Epidemiology in October 2017, have correlated long-term exposure to cell phone radiation with the risk for glioma (a type of brain tumor), meningioma, DNA damage, and other health risks. In May 2017, the California Department of Public Health released safety guidelines in response to possible health impacts from cell phone radiation. Yet this information was withheld from the public for seven years, and only released after litigation. The American Academy of Pediatrics has clear recommendations to reduce children’s exposure to cell phone radiation—yet pregnant women continue to use wireless devices on their abdomens and children are given cell phones as toys.

The wireless industry claims to be in compliance with health and safety regulations and opposes mandatory disclaimers about keeping phones at a safe distance. Yet they also oppose updating cell phone radiation testing methods in ways that would accurately represent real-life use.

As the Environmental Health Trust and Marc Arazi have reported, recent scientific research and court rulings from France underscore these concerns about wireless technology radiation. Under court order, the National Frequency Agency of France (ANFR) recently disclosed that nine out of ten cell phones exceed government radiation safety limits when tested in the way they are actually used, next to the human body. As the Environmental Health Trust reported, French activists coined the term “PhoneGate” because of parallels to the 2015 Volkswagen emissions scandal (referred to informally as “Dieselgate”) in which Volkswagen cars “passed” diesel emission tests in the lab, but actually had higher emissions when driven on real roads. In the same way, cell phones “passed” laboratory radiation tests when the “specific absorption rate” (SAR), which indicates how much radiation the body absorbs, was measured at a distance of 15 mm (slightly more than half an inch). However, the way people actually carry and use cell phones (for example, tucked into a jeans pocket or bra, or held in contact with the ear) results in higher levels of absorbed radiation than those found in lab tests.

As reported by Environmental Health Trust (EHT), French law ensures that SAR levels are identified prominently on cell phone packaging and that cell phone sales are banned for young children. In 2016, new French policies stated, “ALL wireless devices, including tablets, cordless phones, remote controlled toys, wireless toys, baby monitors and surveillance bracelets, should be subjected to the same regulatory obligations as cell phones.” EHT also reported that, according to Le Monde, France would attempt to ban cell phones from schools, colleges, and playgrounds as of 2017.

Although local media might announce the findings of a few selected studies, as the San Francisco Chronicle did when the Kaiser Permanente study was published, the norm for corporate media is to report the telecom industry line—that is, that evidence linking Wi-Fi and cell phone radiation to health issues, including cancer and other medical problems, is either inconclusive or disputed. Such was the case, for example, when the Wall Street Journal published an article in February 2018 titled “Why the Largest Study Ever on Cellphones and Cancer Won’t Settle the Debate.” Similarly, in May 2016 the Washington Post published an article titled “Do Cellphones Cause Cancer? Don’t Believe the Hype.” As Hertsgaard and Dowie’s Nation report suggested, corporate coverage of this sort is partly how the telecom industry remains successful in avoiding the consequences of their actions.

Mark Hertsgaard and Mark Dowie, “How Big Wireless Made Us Think That Cell Phones are Safe: A Special Investigation,” The Nation, March 29, 2018, https://www.thenation.com/article/how-b ... stigation/.

“Phonegate: French Government Data Indicates Cell Phones Expose Consumers to Radiation Levels Higher Than Manufacturers Claim,” Environmental Health Trust, June 2, 2017, updated June 2018, https://ehtrust.org/cell-phone-radiatio ... rers-claim.

Marc Arazi, “Cell Phone Radiation Scandal: French Government Data Indicates Cell Phones Expose Consumers to Radiation Levels Higher Than Manufacturers Claim,” Dr. Marc Arazi blog, June 3, 2017, http://arazi.fr/wp2/2017/06/press-relea ... nment-data.

Marc Arazi, “Phonegate: New Legal Proceedings against ANFR and Initial Reaction to the Communiqué of Nicolas Hulot,” Dr. Marc Arazi blog, December 2, 2017, http://arazi.fr/wp2/2017/12/press-relea ... olas-hulot.

Student Researchers: John Michael Dulalas, Bethany Surface, and Kamila Janik

(San Francisco State University) and Shannon Cowley (University of Vermont)

Faculty Evaluators: Kenn Burrows (San Francisco State University) and Rob Williams (University of Vermont)

https://www.projectcensored.org/4-how-b ... 4648437500

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These old threads have a number of avatars I've been missing.

Can we have an amnesty on banned accounts?
They promise they will never do that again.

Will they ever be able to forgive us?

It can happen. Anything can happen.

Wishing you all the best.

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