Assoc American Physicians n Surgeons Oppose Forced Vaccine

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Assoc American Physicians n Surgeons Oppose Forced Vaccine

Postby vigilant » Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:56 am

This is a horrible situation. I have been in the medical industry for 18 years and I know the harm that vaccines can do and some of the myths about their effectiveness. To the parents who would say, "I don't want your unvaccinated child sitting beside my child in school"...I would have to reply..."Since your protected and vaccinated child can't get sick from my unvaccinated child, why do you care if my child gets sick?"

I have seen video evidence of the immediate and permanent damage that mercury in vaccines to to neural brain tissue and I don't blame these parents one bit.

Notice in the article that the group of doctors and surgeons "are not on the big pharma payroll"....interesting huh? They are the only large medical group coming to the rescue...

And the prosecuter on this case opted out of having his own kids vaccinated, even more interesting.






Association of American Physicians and Surgeons Oppose Vaccine Roundup

PRNewswire-USNewswire
Sunday November 18, 2007

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons today condemned the "vaccine roundup" executed in Prince Georges county Maryland this week, and promised to do everything it can to support parents who refuse to immunize their children.

"This power play obliterates informed consent and parental rights," said Kathryn Serkes, director of policy for the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS), one of the few national physician groups that refuse corporate funding from pharmaceutical companies.In a scenario reminiscent of cattle round-ups, the state's attorney has issued summons to more than 1600 parents of children who have not provided certificates of immunization for their children. But instead of toting a cattle prod, this state's attorney chooses to wield a syringe to keep the "herd" in line.

Parents have been told to appear in Court on Saturday, and to subject their children to on-the-spot state-mandated vaccines of up 17 vaccine doses, or face imprisonment. Parents who ignore the court's demands could face a $50 fine for every day their child is out of compliance or up to 10 days in jail.

"This campaign of intimidation to brutally enforce blanket vaccine mandates by government agencies and the school district gives no consideration for the rights of the parents or the individual medical condition of the child," said Serkes.

Children should be carefully screened, medical records taken and decisions made carefully - not in an ad hoc assembly-line clinic in a county courtroom and under the brutal watch of law enforcement. This is a man-made disaster ready and waiting to detonate. Children could receive a dangerous cocktail of several vaccines without proper examinations. "The procedure is reckless and subjects children to the risk of severe reactions. Physicians would not be allowed to treat children in this way, without individual histories and physical exams - or informed consent," said Jane M. Orient, M.D., AAPS Executive Director.

Money and politics may be at the center of the round of threats. The school district will lose a substantial amount of state funding if students do not comply with the vaccine mandate. "Apparently the district wants that money, even if it gets it off the backs of children," said Serkes.

Mr. Ivey apparently has no problem invoking his own right to informed consent and parental control. In a radio interview on Thursday, he admitted that he has chosen to refuse the hepatitis B vaccines for his own children. "It's interesting that parents have to ask the state's permission by filing a form if they want to make the same decision for their children that he made for his own," said Dr. Orient.
But his galling hypocrisy clearly demonstrates that not every vaccine is right for every child, particularly one such as the hepatitis B.

In their efforts to help the targeted parents, AAPS is contacting as many of them as possible to educate them about their rights under Maryland law and questions to ask before deciding whether vaccination is appropriate for their child (see below). "We'll do our best to help the parents make an informed decision," said Serkes.

Representatives will also be on hand at the courthouse on Saturday, and AAPS is working to set up a legal team to help parents who refuse the vaccinations.

AAPS will also work with the National Vaccine Information Center to make sure parents are informed on how to report any adverse reactions to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Such reporting is actually required, but even medical professionals are lax about filing the reports. Don't expect the police to do it. The State's Attorney General, the manufacturers, and the people giving the shots are immune from liability if the shots hurt somebody, however.

AAPS is also acting as coordinator for the "Hands Off Our Kids" coalition of parents across the country who were instrumental in overturning Texas Governor Perry's executive order requiring the HPV vaccine for school girls last spring. The coalition is appealing to Gov. O'Malley to intervene in the case and work with the legislature to pass a philosophical exemption provision. (The letter to the governor is posted at http://www.aapsonline.org/.)

"All eyes are on PG County," said Serkes. "It's not just a local now, and parents across the country are ready to fight."

National Vaccine Information Center "8 Questions to Ask Before Vaccinating Your Child"

1. Is my child sick right now?

2. Has my child had a bad reaction to a vaccination before?

3. Does my child have a personal or family history of: vaccine reactions, convulsions or neurological disorders, severe allergies or immune system disorders
4. Do I know if my child is at high risk of reacting?

5. Do I know how to identify a vaccine reaction?

6. Do I know how to report a vaccine reaction?

7. Do I know the vaccine manufacturer's name and lot number?

8. Do I know I have a choice?

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons
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Postby Username » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:08 am

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Forced vaccinations...a conspiracy theorist's worst nightmare.

here is an interesting read on the history of mandatory vaccination.
http://www.909shot.com/Loe_Fisher/blfTracking.htm
THE NATIONAL ELECTRONIC VACCINE TRACKING REGISTRY
BY BARBARA LOE FISHER
How The Plan To Force Vaccination Gave Birth To The National ID, A Government Health Records Database, and the End of Medical Privacy



http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vac ... icacy.html
"The Real Truth: Vaccination Inefficacy in the Reduction/Elimination of Infectious Diseases" - Investigative journalist Roman Bystrianyk at HealthSentinel.com, provides the definitive reality check regarding the myth that vaccines were responsible for the reduction/elimination of infectious diseases from humanity. Read and relay this outstanding compilation of data and intelligent analysis.

also from leonard horowitz's selection of articles about vaccines (here: http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vac ... eness.html ) is a list of

Vaccine Ingredients
http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/vac ... ients.html

Vaccine Ingredients and Contact Info
Dawn Winkler
Source: 1997 Physicians' Desk Reference
Toll Free Numbers can be called to obtain product inserts
This is a representative, not a comprehensive, list of the various types of vaccines

Acel-Immune
DTaP
Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Acellular Pertussis Vaccine Adsorbed
Lederle Laboratories
1-800-934-5556
produced using formaldehyde, thimerosal, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, polysorbate 80, gelatin

Act HIB
Haemophilus Influenzae Type B (Hib) Tetanus Toxoid Conjugate
Connaught Laboratories
1-800-822-2463
produced using ammonium sulfate, formalin, sucrose, thimerosal
medium: semi-synthetic

Attenuvax
Measles Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co, Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin
medium: chick embryo

DPT
Diphtheria and Tetanus Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine Adsorbed
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
1-800-366-8900 ext. 5231
produced using aluminum phosphate, formaldehyde, ammonium sulfate, washed sheep red blood cells, glycerol, sodium chloride, thimerosal
medium: porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein

Energix-B
Hepatitis B
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
1-800-633-8900 ext. 5231
produced using aluminum hydroxide, thimerosal
medium: yeast (possibly 5% residual)

Havrix
Hepatitis A
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
1-800-633-8900 ext. 5231
produced using formalin, aluminum hydroxide, phenoxyethanol (antifreeze), polysorbate 20, residual MRC5 proteins (from medium)
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Biavax
Rubella and Mumps Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co, Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

HibTiter
Haemophilus Influenzae Type B (Hib)
Lederle Laboratories
1-800-934-5556
produced using polyribosylribitol, ammonium sulfate, thimerosal
medium: chemically defined, yeast based

Fluvirin
Influenza Virus Vaccine
Medeva Pharmaceuticals
1-888-MEDEVA
(716)274-5300
produced using embryonic fluid (chicken egg), neomycin, polymyxin, thimerosal, betapropiolactone
medium: embryonic fluid (chicken egg)

FluShield
Influenza Virus Vaccine, Trivalent, Types A&B
Wyeth-Ayerst
1-800-934-5556
produced using gentamicin sulfate, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80, tri(n)butylphosphate, thimerosal
medium: chick embryos

IPOL
Inactivated Polio Vaccine
Connaught Laboratories
1-800-822-2463
produced using 3 types of polio virus, formaldehyde, phenoxyethanol (antifreeze), neomycin, streptomycin, polymyxin B
medium: VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells

MMR
Measles Mumps Rubella Live Virus Vaccine
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using sorbitol, neomycin, hydrolyzed gelatin
mediums: M&M - chick embryo
Rubella - human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

M-R-Vax
Measles and Rubella Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin
mediums: M - chick embryo
R - human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Menomune
Meningococcal Polysaccharide Vaccine
Connaught Laboratories
1-800-822-2463
produced using thimerosal, lactose
medium: freeze dried polysaccharride antigens from Neisseria Meningitidis

Meruvax II
Rubella Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Mumpsvax
Mumps Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Orimune
Poliovirus Vaccine Live Oral Trivalent
Lederle Laboratories
1-800-934-5556
produced using 3 types of attenuated polioviruses, streptomycin, neomycin, calf serum, sorbitol
medium: monkey kidney cell culture

Pneumovax
Pneumococcal Vaccine Polyvalent
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using phenol and capsular polysaccharides from the 23 most prevalent pneumococcal types

Prevnar
Pneumococcal 7-valent Conjugate Vaccine
Lederle Laboratories
1-800-934-5556
produced using Diphtheria CRM197 Protein, capsular antigens of Sreptococcus pneumoniae serotypes 4, 6B, 9V, 14, 18C, 19F, and 23F individually conjugated to Diphtheria CRM197 Protein, soy peptone broth, ammonium sulfate, aluminum phosphate
medium: yeast extract based

Imovax
Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed
Connaught Laboratories
1-800-822-2463
produced using human albumin, neomycin sulfate, phenol red indicator
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

Rabies Vaccine Adsorbed
SmithKline Beecham Pharmaceuticals
1-800-366-8900 ext. 5231
produced using betapropiolactone, aluminum phosphate, sodium ethylmercurithiosalicylate (thimerosal), phenol red
medium: fetal rhesus monkey lung cells

Recombivax
Hepatitis B Vaccine Recombinant
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using thimerosal, aluminum hydroxide
medium: yeast (residual < 1% yeast protein)

RotaShield
Rotavirus Vaccine, Live, Oral, Tetravalent
Wyeth-Ayerst Laboratories
1-800-934-5556
produced using 1 rhesus monkey rotavirus, 3 rhesus-human reassortant viruses, sucrose, monosodium glutamate (MSG), potassium monophosphate, potassium diphosphate, fetal bovine serum, neomycin sulfate, amphotericin B
medium: fetal rhesus diploid cell line

Varivax
Varicella Virus Vaccine Live
Merck & Co., Inc.
1-800-672-6372
produced using sucrose, phosphate, monosodium glutamate, processed gelatin
medium: human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)

According to IVAC, (Illinois Vaccine Awareness Coalition 708-848-0116) all vaccines contain monosodium glutamate even if not listed in product insert. According to numerous sources, all vaccines contain thimerosal (mercury). Manufacturers have declared that it is not possible to produce any vaccine without these two components.

Chemical Profiles and Definitions
Sources: EDF (Environmental Defense Fund) & MME (Mosby's Medical Encyclopdia)

Ammonium Sulfate: EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant
neurotoxicant
respiratory toxicant

Amphotericin B: MME definintion - "a drug used to treat fungus infections. Known allergy to this drug prohibits use. Side effects include blood clots, blood defects, kidney problems, nausea and fever. When used on the skin, allergic reactions can occur."

Aluminum: EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant neurotoxicant respiratory toxicant
More hazardous than most chemicals in 2 out of 6 ranking systems
On at least 2 federal regulatory lists

Beta-Propiolactone: EDF Recognized - carcinogen
EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant
respiratory toxicant
skin or sense organ toxicant
More hazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 3 ranking systems
On at least 5 federal regulatory lists
Ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%)to humans

Formaldehyde: EDF Recognized - carcinogen
Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant
immunotoxicant
neurotoxicant
reproductive toxicant
respiratory toxicant
skin or sense organ toxicant
More hazardous than most chemicals in 5 out of 12 ranking systems
On at least 8 federal regulatory lists
Ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds (worst 10%) to ecosystems and human health

Gentamicin Sulfate: an antibiotic

Hydrolyzed Gelatin: obtained from selected pieces of calf and cattle skins, de-mineralized cattle bones (ossein) and porkskin

Monosodium Glutamate: Normally used as a flavor enhancer in a variety of foods, however, due to concerns expressed by the American Academy of Pediatrics, MSG was removed from all products intended for use in infants under the age of one. Injections of glutamate into laboratory animals have resulted in damage to nerve cells in the brain.

Neomycin: an antibiotic

Phenol : EDF Suspected - cardiovascular or blood toxicant aka Carbolic Acid
developmental toxicant
gastrointestinal or liver toxicant
kidney toxicant
neurotoxicant
respiratory toxicant
skin or sense organ toxicant
More hazardous than most chemicals in 3 out of 10 ranking systems
On at least 8 federal regulatory lists

Phenoxyethanol: EDF Suspected - developmental toxicant aka Antifreeze
reproductive toxicant
Less hazardous than most chemicals in 3 ranking systems

Polyribosylribitol: a component of the Hib bacterium

Polymyxin: an antibiotic

Polysorbate: EDF Suspected - skin or sense organ toxicant

Sorbitol: EDF Suspected - gastrointestinal or liver toxicant
Less hazardous than most chemicals in 1 ranking system

Streptomycin: an antibiotic

Sucrose: refined sugar

Thimerosal: EDF Recognized - development toxicant
Suspected - skin or sense organ toxicant

Tri(n)butylphosphate: EDF Suspected - kidney toxicant
neurotoxicant
More hazardous than most chemicals in 2 out of 3 ranking systems
On at least 1 federal regulatory list

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Postby chillin » Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:36 pm

I just opted to get one of my sons immunized for Hep B. The way I see it the alternative to vaccination is paranoia. So fuck it. My wife and I got immunized when we were kids, if anything the vaccines are probably safer than they used to be. My pediatrician wouldn't harm kids, she probably knows more about the possible pitfalls than I do. That being said, I think flu shots are a scam.
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Postby vigilant » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:58 pm

Fourth video down. Watch a short video of mercury immediately destroying neural tissue. I have also had many vaccinations in my life. But how much smarter would we have been without them is my question? Not to mention the mental problems that develop as old age sets in....not to mention the fact that many diseases were already on their way out and in decline when vaccinations started. Vaccines have gotten false credit for curing diseases that were already statistically already on their way out.

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Postby slimmouse » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:07 pm

vigilant wrote:Fourth video down. Watch a short video of mercury immediately destroying neural tissue. I have also had many vaccinations in my life. But how much smarter would we have been without them is my question? Not to mention the mental problems that develop as old age sets in....not to mention the fact that many diseases were already on their way out and in decline when vaccinations started. Vaccines have gotten false credit for curing diseases that were already statistically already on their way out.

http://www.redicecreations.com/mustseeclips.html


Ya know what ?

Im fucking sick to death of being force poisoned.

Have a soft drink and slurp formaldehyde.

Have fast food, and eat monosodium glutomate.

One of these days, the proles will realise, as they look around them at their fellow peeps, who have become obese beyond recognition, and say to themselves, how did this happen ?

And then, when people like me say this is all part of the programme, they will lynch me as they die of the poisons that they are being force fed.
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From a recent email.

Postby slimmouse » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:31 pm

Here is some copied text from an email I recieved recently ;

Jock Doubleday, director of the California non-profit corporation Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc., has offered $75,000 to the first medical doctor or pharmaceutical company CEO who publicly drinks a mixture of standard vaccine additives.

The additives would be the same as those contained in the vaccines recommended for a 6-year-old according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines, and the dose would be body-weight calibrated. It would include, but not be limited to:

Thimerosal (a mercury derivative)
Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)
Phenol (a disinfectant dye)
Aluminum
Benzethonium chloride (a disinfectant)
Formaldehyde (a preservative and disinfectant)
On August 1, 2007, if no one has taken the challenge, the offer will be increased to $90,000 and will increase at a rate of $5,000 per month until someone accepts.

Vaccination Liberation Press Release

Jock Doubleday’s Vaccination Liberation





Not surprisingly, this offer has been on the table since 2001, but no one has been willing to take that toxic chemical cocktail -- except for the children who innocently go in for their routine vaccinations. With the average amount of loans for medical students now well in excess of $100,000 you might have thought some doctor would have tried to cash n on this so they could accelerate the payment of their student loans.

In addition to the vaccine additives listed above, others can include ammonium sulfate, amphotericin B, pig blood, rabbit brain, monkey kidney, betapropiolactone, tri(n)butylphosphate, and a laundry list of other chemicals. The mercury-based preservative thimerosal, in particular, is dangerous. Mercury is a poison and potent neurotoxin. Injecting it into a child, whose nervous system is rapidly developing, can have terrible consequences.

From the evidence I have reviewed and my own clinical experience it is clear that mercury is one of the reasons autism skyrocketed in the last 10 years. Autism has started to decrease now that some the vaccines have eliminated mercury, but be wary; many vaccines still do contain thimerosal, no matter what you may have heard.

And even those vaccines without thimerosal still contain an incredible number of dangerous chemicals. When the mercury is removed, it is typically replaced with another toxic additive that is frequently just as health-harming. The aluminum hydroxide used in many vaccines has been linked to symptoms associated with Parkinson's, ALS, and Alzheimer's. Phenols, methanol, isopropyl, and 2-pheoxyethanol are other ingredients which are corrosive or toxic.

The bottom line is, if you are a parent and are considering vaccinating your child, please read up on the potentially devastating side effects of vaccines before doing so. It could mean the difference between life and death. Avoid the fear mongering and take some time to read ALL sides of the issue, not just the propaganda conventional pediatrician will present to you. Most educated parents that I know that have done a careful analysis of the data invariably chose not to vaccinate their children.
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Postby vigilant » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:34 pm

yeah force poisoning is a problem, see the below. bet you didn't know your bottled water was poisonous did ya? Body tissue builds up and stores chemical compounds over time. We are a walking toxic waste dump.




By Stephen Fox
The Seoul Times front page article, Seoul Korea
August 31, 2007
The third largest ingredient in Dasani is potassium chloride. If you are to be put death, first you get a barbiturate, then a paralytic agent, and then the chemical to stop your heart (what a coincidence!) you guessed it: potassium chloride! "If you take everything out of the water, you don't get the crisp, clean taste that consumers desire," was the sanguine comment of Kim Price, spokesman for Coca-Cola. Question from Student at Oregon State University: I just noticed potassium chloride was listed as an ingredient in some bottled waters (Dasani, for example). But I remember from Chemistry and other sources of information KCl is used for lethal injections and is often times hazardous... so why would it be in bottled water?



Corporate Party line Answer: Potassium is a mineral found in a variety of natural foods and it is needed for your body to function properly.
The reason you may see Potassium Chloride (KCl) as an ingredient in bottled waters is to help replenish a person's natural potassium stores. The amount of KCl a person consumes through food and beverage consumption is much less than is necessary for it to be harmful to a person's health. In order for KCl to be toxic, a person would have to consume more than 2500 mg/kg of KCl, which is an extremely large amount of KCl.


(uhhh, EXCUSE ME, BUT YES POTASSIUM IS A NATURAL BODILY PRODUCT, BUT YOU JUST DID THE SWITCHEROO. YOU SAID POTSSSIUM IS NATURAL, AND NOW JUST SMOOTHLY SWITCHED TO POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, WHICH ARE NOT THE SAME THING. NICE TRY)



After contacting Coca-Cola directly, a representative from Coca-Cola stated that potassium chloride is added to their Dasani bottled water "because consumers prefer it." After conducting several taste-test studies, the results showed that consumers prefer water with the mineral (Potassium chloride) than without it. The representative stated that the amount of KCl in the Dasani water is negligible according to FDA standards. This means there is less than 5 mg of KCl in each bottle of water. Another Coke representative, Ray Crockett, told Sun News last week that "the amount of KCL is tiny; there are no health effects for anybody, and that it is added for taste and to satisfy customer preference." In other words, according to Coke: NO PROBLEM!

Checking a little further, we found that Potassium Chloride has some alarming properties: first, Potassium chloride occurs naturally as sylvite and is also extracted from salt water and can be manufactured by crystallization from solution, flotation or electrostatic separation from suitable minerals. It is a by-product of the making of nitric acid from potassium nitrate and hydrochloric acid. The majority of the potassium chloride produced is used for making fertilizer, because the growth of many plants depends on their potassium intake. As a chemical feedstock it is used for the manufacture of potassium hydroxide and potassium metal. It is used in water as a completion fluid in oil and gas operations. Side effects can include gastrointestinal discomfort including nausea and vomiting, diarrhea and bleeding of the gut. Overdoses cause hyperkalemia which can lead to paresthesia, cardiac conduction blocks, fibrillation and arrhythmias.


Lethal injection has 3 steps: first, Sodium thiopental: to render the "offender" unconscious; second, Pancuronium/ Tubocurarine: to stop all muscle movement except the heart. This causes muscle paralysis, collapse of the diaphragm, and would eventually cause death by asphyxiation. Last: Potassium chloride: to stop the heart from beating, and thus cause death. In 1977, Jay Chapman, Oklahoma's state medical examiner, proposed a new, 'more humane' method of execution: "An intravenous saline drip shall be started in the prisoner's arm, into which shall be introduced a lethal injection consisting of an ultra-short-acting barbiturate in combination with a chemical paralytic." The People's Republic of China began using this method in 1997, Guatemala in 1998, and the Philippines in 1999; other countries have also legally, but not practically adopted the method. Nazi Germany's T-4 Euthanasia Program used lethal injection (with drugs that differed from the modern method) as one of several methods to destroy "life unworthy of life." ("Life unworthy of life" (in German: "Lebensunwertes Leben" was a Nazi designation for the segments of populace that, according to racial policies of the Third Reich, had no right to live and thus were to be "exterminated." This concept formed an important component of the ideology of Nazism and eventually led to the Holocaust.)

Among other "contraindications" for taking potassium chloride as medicine are these: kidney disease; Addison's disease; stomach ulcer or intestinal blockage; and chronic diarrhea. There is another one, according to the FDA which is almost never there to protect you: FDA pregnancy category C." This medication may be harmful to an unborn baby. Tell your doctor if you are pregnant or plan to become pregnant during treatment. It is not known whether potassium chloride passes into breast milk or if it could harm a nursing baby. Do not use this medication without telling your doctor if you are breast-feeding a baby." Yet there are no warnings of any kind on a bottle of Dasani ...


So if you drink a lot of Dasani, like 6-7 bottles a day, perhaps less, you might develop some of these symptoms: paralysis, numbness or tingly feeling, uneven heartbeat, feeling light-headed, fainting, chest pain or heavy feeling, pain spreading to the arm or shoulder, nausea, sweating, seizure (convulsions), or coma. If they persist or if you die from "Dasani poisoning," on behalf of your living survivors, ask your lawyer to get in touch with Neville Isdell, the Chairman and CEO of The Coca-Cola Company.

Contact information:(404) 676-2121 | 1 Coca Cola Plz NW Atlanta, GA 30313. He has a phalanx of telephone operators who won't connect you, however ... So if you are a New Mexican, address your question to Antonio Anaya, Vice President Coca Cola New Mexico. I hope he will be more truthful to you than he was when he told a legislative committee in 2006 that banning aspartame/methanol/formaldehyde in New Mexico would cost 600 jobs, and again in 2007 when he told a committee that the bill to ban aspartame made him think he was in the "Twilight Zone"....

Our efforts might be productive, after all: in May 2007, Coca-Cola reformulated two of its soft drinks in the US to halt a lawsuit alleging they may contain the cancer-causing chemical, benzene. Coca-Cola, while still denying the allegation, said it changed formulas in its Vault Zero and Fanta Pineapple drinks in September 2006 to minimize benzene formation, the settlement document says. PepsiCo, Coca-Cola's arch-rival, which recently admitted that its bottled water comes straight out of the tap, still has action pending against it . Benzene is a known carcinogen and concerns over its presence in drinks went public last year, following an investigation by BeverageDaily.com and US lawyer Ross Getman. The widely used preservative sodium benzoate breaks down to form benzene in drinks also containing either ascorbic acid (vitamin C) or citric acid. America's soft drinks industry and food safety officials had known this for 15 years, internal memos show, although levels found were "not considered a risk to consumers' health."

Coke said it would ensure anyone performing a Google search for 'benzene,' together with either of the products, would be directed to a special message on the Coca-Cola website.

News of Coca-Cola's reformulation is likely to spark more questions as to why these ingredients are still being used in drinks. America's Food and Drug Administration (FDA) made a private deal for the soft drinks industry to "get the word out and reformulate," according to Greg Diachenko, an FDA chemist present at meetings with soft drinks firms in late 1990 and early 1991. However, independent testing, as well as probes by the FDA and food safety officials in the UK, last year again found benzene in some drinks.One ex-FDA official suggested the agency has again fallen short. "Big companies are very powerful. If you're a regulator with a tight budget, it could have been one of those closets with skeletons in that you don't want to open," he said on condition of anonymity. Soft drinks industry leaders admitted to BeverageDaily.com that the message on benzene may have been lost in places since the issue emerged in 1990. But they also argued sodium benzoate's ability to kill bacteria both cheaply and effectively outweighed negligible risks over benzene.

One final question for soft drink consumers: the primary ingredient after water and sugar in all of them is always phosphoric acid, which gives the drink its "zing." Yet phosphoric acid is primarily used outside of the soft drink industry as an industrial solvent, to clean toilet bowls, and to oxidize raw steel, so that it can be painted. Is this something you really want to drink or that your children should be drinking?
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Postby slimmouse » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:09 pm

vigilant wrote:yeah force poisoning is a problem, see the below. bet you didn't know your bottled water was poisonous did ya? Body tissue builds up and stores chemical compounds over time. We are a walking toxic waste dump.


One question I have VG.

Are there any natural/non poisonous alternatives available to thimiserol, as an additive that prolongs the life and effectivness of vaccines ?



The reason i ask is cos a short while back, I got engaged in a discussion about the merits/ non merits of Aspartame as a sugar substitute -

The counter argument to mine was, essentially, that (excess) sugar isn't exactly good for you either, and therefore the artificial sweeteners, although they contained toxins, were, in small doses, "the lesser of two evils"

That kinda had me thinking, until I learned that there are alternative natural non poisonous, and relatively inexpensive sugar alternatives available.

In other words, "the lesser of two evils" argument with regard to sugar substitutes was little more than the usual crap.

Would this be the case WRT thimiserol ?
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Postby vigilant » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:26 pm

The alternative to mercury for vaccines is hydrogen peroxide to act as the preservative. A large group of doctors tried to get mercury banned and use hydrogen peroxide as a substitute but George Bush threatened to veto the legislation. Peroxide is very safe. I have known patients with lung problems that put a few drops of hydrogen peroxide in water and drink it to increase the oxygen content in their lungs, thus living a much higher quality of life. Hydrogen Peroxide is not poisonous and if you put a few drops in water it is actually good for you in many ways.
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Postby slimmouse » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:49 pm

vigilant wrote:The alternative to mercury for vaccines is hydrogen peroxide to act as the preservative. A large group of doctors tried to get mercury banned and use hydrogen peroxide as a substitute but George Bush threatened to veto the legislation. Peroxide is very safe. I have known patients with lung problems that put a few drops of hydrogen peroxide in water and drink it to increase the oxygen content in their lungs, thus living a much higher quality of life. Hydrogen Peroxide is not poisonous and if you put a few drops in water it is actually good for you in many ways.


And the Bushco argument against Hydrogen Peroxide is ?

Edit ; This argument against Hydrogen peroxide sounds very much like the argument against apricot kernels as a natural defence to cancer.
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Re: Assoc American Physicians n Surgeons Oppose Forced Vacci

Postby Harvey » Mon Nov 01, 2021 3:56 pm

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Postby stickdog99 » Mon Nov 01, 2021 5:50 pm

vigilant » 20 Nov 2007 02:26 wrote:The alternative to mercury for vaccines is hydrogen peroxide to act as the preservative. A large group of doctors tried to get mercury banned and use hydrogen peroxide as a substitute but George Bush threatened to veto the legislation. Peroxide is very safe. I have known patients with lung problems that put a few drops of hydrogen peroxide in water and drink it to increase the oxygen content in their lungs, thus living a much higher quality of life. Hydrogen Peroxide is not poisonous and if you put a few drops in water it is actually good for you in many ways.


A simpler alternative is just to do away with multi-dose vaccines. Single-dose vaccines generally don't require these sort of preservatives. Note that single-dose vaccines generally cost about 10 cents more per dose wholesale, so there is zero defense for our continued use of thimerosal in multi-dose flu vaccines.
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