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Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:36 pm

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https://www.rintrah.nl/now-you-can-see- ... a-mistake/

Now you can see why the vaccines were a mistake

November 26, 2021

From the Guardian:

A first case in Europe of the new variant of Covid-19 has been identified in Belgium in an unvaccinated young adult woman who developed mild flu-like symptoms 11 days after traveling to Egypt via Turkey.

The patient did not report any links with South Africa or other countries in southern Africa. None of her family members have developed symptoms. The patient was said to have a high viral load at the time of diagnosis by researchers at the universities, KU Leuven and UZ Leuven.

This means it’s already everywhere. And it should be pretty obvious that the vaccines don’t work against this: Israel reported a positive case in a 32 year old woman who received her third shot two months ago.

The important thing to remember is that you don’t need a virus that evades 100% of the vaccine induced antibodies for the vaccine to fail. The vaxx developers are in full damage control mode on Twitter now, insisting that this is not necessarily a big deal. All evidence however suggests that the vaccines are going to fail against this variant. Of course you’ll still have some immunity against this variant from these vaccines, but there’s the problem: You always have some immunity. You already had some immunity from other corona viruses, but we know that some immunity isn’t going to do the trick.

If it evades most of your antibodies then it’s like sending off an army faced with overwhelming odds. These vaccines through original antigenic sin will prohibit your body from generating a more effective immune response. The spike protein now looks pretty much completely different and it’s now responsible for the majority of cases in South Africa, this took place at a speed far exceeding the rise of Beta and Delta.

Vaccinated people are now stuck with this mediocre immune response, that’s intended for a variant that no longer exists. This really looks like the scenario where you’re worse off being vaccinated than you are if you’re unvaccinated. And if this is somehow not yet the big one, the one that uses everyone’s highly identical immune response against the Wuhan version of the spike protein to its own advantage, then you can rest assured that when it grows dominant, it will be giving birth to descendants that will do the trick.

Let me grab an old study from Japanese scientists, who tried to answer the question: Under what circumstances do we see antibody dependent enhancement? That is, a situation in which the virus uses your overall vaccine induced antibody response to its own advantage, leaving you worse off than if you had never been vaccinated in the first place. They determined it’s pretty easy: You take Delta and you add these four mutations:

K417N, N439K, E484K and N501Y.


If you throw those four mutations into Delta, you have a version that uses your vaccine induced antibody response to its own advantage.

Does that ring a bell?

Tom Peacock
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Just spotted: very small cluster of variant associated with Southern Africa with very long branch length and really awful Spike mutation profile including RBD - K417N, N440K, G446S, S477N, T478K, E484A, Q493K, G496S, Q498R, N501Y, Y505H

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So let’s see:

-K417N: Bingo!

-N439K: No, but we have N440K which is a neighboring mutation and should perform the same trick of interfering with the antibodies.

-E484K: We have E484A, which means you have a mutation at the same spot, but resulting in a different amino acid, Alanine instead of Lysine.

-N501Y: Bingo!

In other words, its mutations look pretty much identical to what the Japanese scientists were warning would allow Delta to use your vaccine induced antibody response to its own advantage. Oops.

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(1) Let me save you the suspense. News reports that “effectiveness of vaccines against B.1.1.529 will be determined in two weeks.” Those tests will find that the vaccines don’t produce neutralizing antibodies against the new variant.

11:45 AM · Nov 26, 2021


The vaccine manufacturers are saying they’ll need two weeks before figuring out whether the vaccines will need to be updated or not. I don’t think you need two weeks to figure out these vaccines are useless against this thing. If healthy 32 year old triple vaccinated people are getting infected and spreading this thing, then your vaccine is useless.

This leads to a number of awkward questions: I thought you were going to update these vaccines for Delta? Now there’s a new variant, unrelated to Delta, but you’re going to update the vaccines for this new variant? Oh and what does that mean for the people who were scheduled to receive their booster to the original variant?

I give it two months at most, before you’ll be starting to see a consensus shift: These vaccines were a big mistake. Now you can see why. A new variant emerges that seems to have evolved in someone who was HIV positive while infected for an extended period of time with SARS-COV-2, giving the virus ample time to figure out an optimal solution to the vaccine induced immune response.

The other awkward question they don’t want to address is as following: How are you going to avoid an original antigenic sin response to your new variant specific strain? How do you make sure your new vaccine updated for this new strain isn’t just going to boost the antibodies originally developed against the original strain you vaccinated everyone against? They have no solution. In fact, this new strain spreads so fast that if it escapes our attempts to contain it (which all evidence suggests will be the case), the new variant specific vaccine will come far too late to make a difference.

And that’s when it gets ugly. With influenza, we have an age-stratified layered immune response (https://eugyppius.substack.com/p/more-o ... ic-sin-and): The influenza virus changes over time, so different age categories have different immune responses to influenza. If a new variant emerges that makes optimal use of one age category’s immune response, it won’t help it spread in other age categories.

For this virus, we injected everyone with vaccines that target an identical Spike protein. This means that most adults in the Western world now have a highly similar immune response to this virus. All it takes is one variant of this virus that figures out how to use that immune response to its own advantage and you’re faced with a disaster.

When you try to generate a highly identical immune response against this virus in everyone, to protect 0.3% of the population, you’re setting your whole society up for disaster when some variant of this virus comes into existence that isn’t affected by this vaccine induced immune response.

The vaccines were a mistake. You can’t develop a quick and easy fix to a problem like this. When you have a respiratory virus that kills around 0.3% of people it infects, overwhelmingly elderly people in poor health, then you’re better off asking yourself what leaves 0.3% of people unable to fight off this virus and focusing on addressing those underlying problems.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:45 pm

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Sharing this comment here as it echoes certain sentiment Re: my most recent post on the blockchain/digital currency thread:

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/bota ... nt/3769010

Allen 3 hr ago

If you view this whole 'pandemic' situation through the lens of health, safety, science and saving lives, then most of it makes little sense. If you view it through the lens of money, power, control, and wealth transfer, then all of it makes perfect sense.

Covid is not an epidemiological story. Covid is a crime story.

They needed the lockdowns. They needed the lockdowns to be long, destructive and depressing. They need everyone to be scared of more lockdowns so that they can say, "To avoid further lockdowns you need to accept Vaccine Passports."

The lockdowns, mandatory muzzles, anti-social distancing and the other measures did nothing to protect or improve public health- they were never designed to do so. They were all designed to deliberately break the global economy (and crush competition, especially small businesses) as well as break people's minds, will and the social fabric, in order to “build back better”, according to the diabolical and dystopian visions of the psychopaths waging this class war, which is essentially a billionaires utopia, in which they own the planet like a techno-feudal fiefdom, and oversee the drastically reduced population of digitally branded humanity like cattle in a super-surveilled technocracy.

The injections are the Trojan horse to get us in the door of that digital concentration camp (as well as the metaphorical gas chambers), starting with vax-ports, followed by digital IDs, and then connected to CBDC accounts and UBI scrip, which will allow them to track our every move and purchase, and “nudge” us toward whatever medical, dietary, or lifestyle choices they desire, at threat of having our rations reduced, or, if we misbehave too badly, being shut out of the system altogether. They’re specifically targeting kids and young people most of all, deliberately inflicting mass trauma on them, because they’re the ones who’ll grow up in that New Normal™️, and the goal is to condition them to accept total control over every aspect of their lives and a dehumanized screen-based existence, to the point where they won’t remember living any other way, breathing free, being free.

All talk of so-called efficacy of these poison injections are meaningless distractions and quite besides the (existentially urgent) point when you understand that the virus/disease they’re allegedly designed to protect against doesn’t exist in the first place and, additionally, what their real, above-mentioned purpose(s) is.

It’s blackmail on a global scale.


Time will tell. How much longer will the majority comply with these measures? The answer will govern the extent some, or all, of the above comes to pass in the years ahead.

Not so hyperbolic anymore, is it?
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:47 pm

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:25 pm

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Mount Sinai Long Beach hospital fired 72 healthcare staff due to vaccine mandate, and then closed down due to staff shortage.

This is stupid beyond imagination.

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9:48 pm. · 24. Nov. 2021

https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1 ... 4482872320


No, Dr. David, its not stupid.. It's all going according to plan, obviously. To make omelette, break eggs. To achieve Reset, smash society.

What's stupid beyond imagination is the typically self-flattering liberal delusion that these ruthless and cunning criminals are stupid.

"Dubya, LOL." "CIA, LOL!" Smug 'smart' people who can imagine nothing worse than stupidity are gonna get us all erased.

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:37 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:No, Dr. David, its not stupid.. It's all going according to plan, obviously.. To make omelette, break eggs. To achieve Reset, smash society.

What's stupid beyond imagination is the typically self-worshipping liberal delusion that these ruthless and cunning criminals are stupid.
"Dubya, LOL." "CIA, LOL!" Smug 'smart' people who can imagine nothing worse than stupidity are gonna get us all erased.


If we viewed politicians as used car salesmen it would be easier to see past all the folksy charm and the deliberate buffoonery to the shrewd salesman they actually are. They don't tend to own the showroom but they do get paid on commission, so yes, they have an interest in selling the car - the policies which never do what the salesmen says. Those policies always benefit the billionaire class most (whomever works for them too) but never the buyer. Now matter how many times people buy the same used car, relatively few seem to remember the last time.

Recall just how many times the Syria narrative shifted until even experienced congressman didn't know whether they were fighting IS or Assad when interviewed, let alone agree on whether it was Daesh, IS, ISIS, ISIL etc. Confusionism has come a long way since then. If the same class of people can kill Kennedy and pull off 9/11 while getting the whole of polite society to look the other way, I ask, what changed? (Apart from possessing far superior technologies with which to achieve such things; these days they can literally dial it in) Did all these people suddenly develop a conscience? Did their ambition fade or did it grow exponentially? Seriously, what changed?

Why any of them are suddenly considered honest salesmen on SARS-Cov 2 is anyone's guess. :shrug:

All our lives we were we told there was no effective way to combat the common cold, it just keeps mutating. Were we not? Up until the day before yesterday at any rate. What changed?

For many decades the same groups of wealthy individuals, families and institutions (some relative newcomers) incrementally and profitably sabotage our societies, indeed our entire world. Yet many otherwise very sophisticated people can't seem to relate everything they already know to what is happening around them today. Too invested, probably. Every time some new emergency is unveiled, it's received as revelation, because apparently, nothing else makes any sense to them.

Granted, not so much around here. Even those who go along with the script to some degree, clearly recognise the catastrophic level of corruption, even if they must call it 'over reach' rather than what it actually is, deliberate long term strategy. But out there in the world, it's exactly as if I'm watching new born babies every three or four years. Their mediated views have no framework for what is happening to them beyond 'incompetence.' But you'll never prise their TV remotes or smart phones away from them.

The constant intense sense of deja-vu is a real trip. This, from WEF back in July is a case in point: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/07/ ... -variants/

Scientists in South Africa have discovered a small number of cases of a new COVID variant. They’re working to understand its potential implications but told a news conference that it had a ‘very unusual constellation’ of mutations.

They’re concerned that they could help it evade the body’s immune response and make the variant - named B.1.1.529 - more transmissible.


And now, again, we're supposed to be in a panicked race against time in the run up to Christmas, if we believe the media and the talking heads, except it's old 'news'. Or bullshit. Or both.

There's something in the air, oh my god! It's Omicron!

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Grizzly » Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:49 pm

Mount Sinai Long Beach hospital fired 72 healthcare staff due to vaccine mandate,who had religious exemptions and then closed down due to staff shortage.

Methodical, clinical and goddamn systemic... Or at least they're trying to make it so...

Soft or Hard (carrot and the stick, perhaps?) these sociopaths don't care. Hell, I suspect some of these fuckers want it hard, because they like seeing -and get off on- people in pain.
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:11 am

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Postby Harvey » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:32 am

It's been posted before (I think) but still... RFK Jr electrifying audiences in Milan a couple of weeks ago:

https://21stcenturywire.com/2021/11/26/ ... ur-rights/
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Postby Harvey » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:54 am

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Postby Grizzly » Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:31 am

https://rumble.com/vpfzyt-robert-kennedy-jr.-full-speech-milan-italy-november-13th-2021-oracle-films.html

Robert F Kennedy Jr. Full Speech | Milan, Italy November 13th 2021 | Oracle Films
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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby mentalgongfu2 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:06 am

So let’s see:

-K417N: Bingo!

-N439K: No, but we have N440K which is a neighboring mutation and should perform the same trick of interfering with the antibodies.

-E484K: We have E484A, which means you have a mutation at the same spot, but resulting in a different amino acid, Alanine instead of Lysine.

-N501Y: Bingo!

In other words, its mutations look pretty much identical to what the Japanese scientists were warning would allow Delta to use your vaccine induced antibody response to its own advantage. Oops.


... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...


All talk of so-called efficacy of these poison injections are meaningless distractions and quite besides the (existentially urgent) point when you understand that the virus/disease they’re allegedly designed to protect against doesn’t exist in the first place and, additionally, what their real, above-mentioned purpose(s) is.


What's really crazy is how a virus/disease that doesn't exist can also hurt vaccinated people the worst because of its identified mutations. A quantum mystery!
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Postby Harvey » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:59 am

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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Harvey » Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:11 am

"Efrat Fenigson, a chief marketing officer and human rights activist from Tel Aviv, Israel, candidly speaks to Sonia about how 'Covid' has been marketed, as if it were a brand, by world governments and the mainstream media."

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/Ws1DDYkiqAOXdis


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Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread

Postby Belligerent Savant » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:19 pm

mentalgongfu2 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:06 am wrote:
So let’s see:

-K417N: Bingo!

-N439K: No, but we have N440K which is a neighboring mutation and should perform the same trick of interfering with the antibodies.

-E484K: We have E484A, which means you have a mutation at the same spot, but resulting in a different amino acid, Alanine instead of Lysine.

-N501Y: Bingo!

In other words, its mutations look pretty much identical to what the Japanese scientists were warning would allow Delta to use your vaccine induced antibody response to its own advantage. Oops.


... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...


All talk of so-called efficacy of these poison injections are meaningless distractions and quite besides the (existentially urgent) point when you understand that the virus/disease they’re allegedly designed to protect against doesn’t exist in the first place and, additionally, what their real, above-mentioned purpose(s) is.


What's really crazy is how a virus/disease that doesn't exist can also hurt vaccinated people the worst because of its identified mutations. A quantum mystery!


At this point i don't rule out anything (i tend to lean towards the premise that there is indeed a 'novel' coronavirus out there, though it's largely benign and treatable in most circumstances), and we likely won't know the true extent of current mindfuckery for years, if ever (see: JFK assassination; 9/11), though as with all prior manipulations of information, it's clear that absorbing the dominant narratives at face value is detrimental to the individual, and to the populace at large.

That aside, introducing leaky and experimental 'vaccines' wide-scale will manifest all manner of variants/mutations regardless of the novel status of coronaviruses out in the wild.

But by now it should be clear govt policies are not driven by 'health' concerns.
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